European Super League

Do you want the ESL to happen?


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Hammondo

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Bayern is the biggest hypocrite here:


Playing the hero card, what a load of bollocks.
I just watched that entire video and it makes them the opposite of hypocrites. As the video explains, Bayern would benefit from a super league more than nearly anyone. Maybe the most. Simply due to how much more money they would make from broadcasting compared to other teams from other leagues.
 

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There’s no returning to the status quo. We’re just getting started though with a reshuffle of football though.

UEFA and the PL cannot afford to ban these teams and their players, just look at the BDO and PDC in darts to see what happens when the top players walk away. The PL is nothing without the biggest clubs and players now. That’s doubly true for the CL. If they lose these 12 clubs, their competitions become devalued and enter an inevitable decline. These clubs are going to get more power one way or another, either as part of UEFA or by setting up a rival organisation.

The only way the 12 clubs lose now is if the players revolt. In Ferguson’s time, we know someone like Gary Neville would organise, but I have no idea who would do similar now.
Bruno Fernandes and Marcus Rashford, those 2 are able to do that kind of thing.
 

TMDaines

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Bruno. Cause no one at the other clubs gonna do it.
Organising something like this is more than an Instagram post. Rashford has shown a desire to use his platform for the betterment of society, but this is a bit different.
 

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Wow, just wow.

These things need to be run by independent bodies but your solution is to give all the power to the big capitalists only because you're lucky enough to support one of the 'chosen' clubs. Pathetic hypocrisy.
Independent bodies that sold their soul for a pot of Qatari gold. Do me a favour with the hypocrisy lecture.
 

VorZakone

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The Premier League is at the top of a pyramid which means clubs can get relegated and promoted. Teams like Leicester can come from the Championship, establish themselves and then win the league. The super league is a closed club where none of that is ever possible. It's wretched.
It's crazy that some people just completely overlook this fundamental aspect.
 

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We'll see.

This season is an easy one as it's almost over and there isn't much interest left in the remaining clubs. Let's see how the CL fares next year without any of the big teams in it. He'll soon backtrack, probably announcing some big statement fine that was pre-agreed by the clubs beforehand.
 
Mohamd Bouhafsi: "Despite requests from several clubs, Al-Khelaifi has refused to take over the presidency of the ECA. He wanted to help rebuild football by remaining a member of the ECA board"

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Despite requests from several European clubs, Nasser Al Khelaifi has refused to take over the presidency of the ECA (association of big clubs). He explained that he wanted to help rebuild football by remaining a member of the ECA board and especially president of PSG.
 

lex talionis

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This is wrong on every level, full stop.

I don’t see how this desecration can be solved from within football associations. It’s going to take the collection action of the national governments to prohibit this by law. And I’m quite sure that if litigation against the legality of such laws (in the UK, Italy, etc,) is brought that the courts would hold in favor of the governments.
 

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And explained in the first response.

Ceferin has a job, and in his position, shutting up right now when the spotlight is on him, does more damage to him. He is expected by both sides to talk, and talk big even if it's crazy talk. It's for the ESL side's benefits that no harm is done to him, and better yet to get him join the gang once his term expires. The more dramatic he is right now, the more impact he can bring if he indeed joins ESL.
I didn't suggest that he should shut up, you seemingly didn't read nor care about the posts you responded too. I said that he can't target the owners specifically, not that he should shut up.
 

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An interesting observation is that a lot of the most vociferous opposition to the proposals are, unsurprisingly, coming from those affiliated to the organisations with a vested interest in keeping the lucrative (for them) status quo - Sky, BT, the Premier League and UEFA. And of course they’re currently the ones setting the narrative for all this, which the masses are feeding off.
Sorry, and your point is what exactly?
 

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Desperate, dark times for English football. The Glazers have fecking ruined our football club and are destroying any heritage. They can shove their NFL franchise concept up their asses
 
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As much as I'd like to see it happen, I can't see how UEFA or the PL could punish the clubs involved right away. They have only announced an intention, and haven't technically broken any laws or rules w/ respect to their actions.
I might be wrong but have the clubs not signed contracts to join the 'super' league?

If so that would be grounds that they have breached the rules of the game
 

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I wonder if the clubs in question anticipated level of response from fans. It’s almost unanimously negative.
That’s what I was just thinking.
No doubt they were anticipating the negative response. They were anticipating the lawsuits, the threats, the point deductions, the bans, the PR disaster. Everything.

But yesterday, it felt like an assault on football that. And everyone’s reacting like a wounded animal. You’ve got Boris Johnson and Macron gettig involved. Ceferin having a meltdown, getting personal with the”traitors”. It really has it all.
And Ceferin being Agnelli’s daughter godfather. You couldn’t make this up.

I love the response, though. Fascinating to see how this pans out.
 

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What does that even mean?
Busby and United were very unpopular with the Football League for wanting to enter European competitions. Some would argue the Munich Air Disaster was inadvertently caused by the Football League’s hard stance is being unwilling to flex the schedule, which meant United travelling by air in tight windows to fulfil domestic and European fixtures.
 

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What are you talking about? The whole conversation on football throughout the last 30 years is about how much money the players earn and how corrupt uefa and fifa are. This is worse than anything we've seen don't put out fake narratives.

I never said this isn't worse than anything we have seen, but does that mean what we have seen in the last 20 years is acceptable?

Yes I am aware of it being in the news, but the average football fan was not going to do anything about it and most people were happy to accept it and continue watching football like nothing happened.

Well, if that's not what your post says, then what the feck is the point about going on about UEFA and FIFA? It's not they who have just announced the ESL. Also, if you haven't noticed anyone complaining about money ruining the game before now, which particularly large and dense sand dune have you spent the last two decades buried under?
People moaning about money in the game means diddly squat as these same people still watched football regardless. I mentioned FIFA and UEFA as allowing football to get to this point in the first place is partly to do with them, and they have always been about money first and foremost but football fans were happy to turn a blind eye and continue watching regardless.
 

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We'll see.

This season is an easy one as it's almost over and there isn't much interest left in the remaining clubs. Let's see how the CL fares next year without any of the big teams in it. He'll soon backtrack, probably announcing some big statement fine that was pre-agreed by the clubs beforehand.
The players will be up in arms if they’re banned from the Euros.

Can’t see Pep et al taking it lying down if City get denied their first crack at a CL title. Tuchel will be mighty pissed off too.
 

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Very radical steps and actions need to be taken. This just perfectly shows the broken globalist system we live in. Whoever supports anything like this is an absolutely disgusting human being.

Those making such claims should be judged by the fanbase, properly. We need the fans, players, legends, everyone needs to stand together right now.
 

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The Premier League is at the top of a pyramid which means clubs can get relegated and promoted. Teams like Leicester can come from the Championship, establish themselves and then win the league. The super league is a closed club where none of that is ever possible. It's wretched.
But that's not the case? There will be some spots open for new joiners. Details are not available yet but it's not a completely closed shop.

Champions League suffers from having so many teams in it now. Viewer figures are high for games involving the likes of us, Barcelona, and so on, but poor for games featuring teams like Leipzig (who have never been champions in their entire existence). That needs addressing.
 

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For arguments sake, let's say they ban all the teams from CL and Europa.

Means, PSG will be the champions without playing any more match. That itself is a lawsuit by the Broadcasting companies, sponsors and the clubs.

Europa League- it will be a Roma vs Villarreal final. I don't anyone cares except for their fans but that's the case in EL anyway. The lawsuit still stands.

PL - Leicester and West Ham will fight for the title. It's all good when they pip the big boys when they are actually playing. But if they are banned, the same sky who has the rights will be the first one to create an issue here. This is in addition to other countless lawsuits that would go.

Now banning from international tournaments. That's even worse. UEFA probably can ( I don't think they can ban players for non sporting reasons. This is the club ownership and not the players. If my employer does something wrong, I cant be punished ans court won't agree to it).

But Let's say, they will but it will just stop at euro cup. I doubt other football federations care. Do you really think Conmebol will ban Messi, Cavani, Suarez,Sanchez, Aguero etc.. ?

Now imagine the Euros without these players or imagine the world cup without these players.