Ryan Giggs charged with assaulting two women...

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Alan Partridge

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What a piece of work. My favourite player as a kid. My least favourite ex player as a man. Never could quite trust those little beady recessed eyes.
 

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feck him. Honestly. What a scumbag. First the affair with his brothers mrs now this.

Don't give a shit how much of a legend he is. feck him
 

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What does charged mean? Why are people already writing him off?
It means the Police/COS feel that they have a strong enough case to take to court (assuming Giggs pleads not guilty, otherwise he’d just be sentenced immediately).
 

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Looking guiltier by the second, time to give the job to Rob Page full time or if they would rather have a name in there I am pretty sure Cookie would love another bite of the cherry after his spectacular club successes of late.
 

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I mean innocent till proven guilty and all and hope it isn't true. But if it is true I hope he doesn't get away with it because of his celebrity status.

Really sad that one of the clubs biggest legends (arguably the biggest) and a player who was easily in my top 5 of all time, seems like he is a complete A-hole off the field.
 

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The “coercive/controlling behaviour” charge presumably means he was in a relationship with one of these women? Maybe attacked her plus a friend/relative? Grim.
Looking at the dates it's the offence he was originally arrested for back in November. One of them was his girlfriend. I guess the evidence is strong enough to now charge him.

I suppose you could say at least he's not done it again.
 

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You want someone locked up without having been given a trial?
He deserves locking up for what he did to his brother. That said I agree he needs a trial.

Sounds like two women were hurt by him at the same time though so will be pretty difficult to get out of that one with each no doubt corroborating the others version of events. No doubt that’s why he’s been charged.
 

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What does charged mean? Why are people already writing him off?
It means the CPS think they have enough of a case to convict him.

Especially with high profile cases like this, they'll be pretty sure they have the evidence for a conviction before pushing for it.
 

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When the story about him going with his brother's wife came out, it just seemed like the actions of a man who had a completely entitled perspective without any thought about consequences. I guess this is the downside of being so good as a kid, having nations fight over you, being incredibly popular at the worlds biggest club in your 20s, being good looking enough to have any woman you want, then moving onto management...he's had everything a person could ever dream of. I guess when you reach that point, you stop caring about the consequences because life has given you everything on a silver platter.

He's a horrible man though. I can't stand seeing him these days, he's ruined his legacy in the eyes of most football fans.
 

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Remember everyone: Please seperate Giggs the player from Giggs the man.

I hate both.
 
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I believe in innocent until proven guilty, so I will hold my tongue for now. Most important thing is that this is fully looked into and he either gets punished or gets his name cleared.
 

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He always seemed really robotic and unemotional, like there's no soul behind those beady eyes.

I get a sociopathic vibe if I'm honest.
 

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He is a problematic character. To be able to live with banging your brothers wife says a lot about his character.
 

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Page 1 is full of some pretty conclusive comments.

At least Page 2 has a bit more "let's actually wait and see eh" stuff.

Doesn't sound great either way.
 

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Sad, but just because they are good footballers doesnt mean they are good people and Giggs has a record of messing women about literally and metorphorically..
My cousins daughter dated a palace kid for 17-18 months. In 2004 she caught him cheating when she was 18 he was 20 and he beat her up bad. He then paid her £40,000 not to report it, which sadly she took, and finished the relationship. Her parents and the rest of the family only knew around 2010 I think it was as she was living in London and never mentioned it until then.
 

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Shouldn't we wait till he's convicted before passing comment?

Charged means accused, right? Like then he goes to court and they hear evidence to see what happened?
The CPS uses the following test:

The Full Code Test

Prosecutors must only start or continue a prosecution when the case has passed both stages of the Full Code Test. The exception is when the Threshold Test may be applied.

The Full Code Test has two stages: (i) the evidential stage; followed by (ii) the public interest stage.

The Evidential Stage

Prosecutors must be satisfied that there is sufficient evidence to provide a realistic prospect of conviction against each suspect on each charge.

The Public Interest Stage

In every case where there is sufficient evidence to justify a prosecution or to offer an out-of-court disposal, prosecutors must go on to consider whether a prosecution is required in the public interest.
 

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I used to have pictures of you on my wall as a kid Giggsy, SMFH

I can't help but think too much too young with Giggsy and the way he is towards Women, he had the world at his feet and Women throwing themselves at him, it must feck with your head.
 

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I believe in innocent until proven guilty, so I will hold my tongue for now. Most important thing is that this is fully looked into and he either gets punished or gets his name cleared.

Agree , at this point he has been charged but nothing has been proved against him. Lets wait until the details and evidence have been evaluated before we condemn him.
 

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Defining coercive and controlling behaviour

Section 76 of the Serious Crime Act 2015 created a new offence of controlling or coercive behaviour in an intimate or family relationship.

An offence is committed by A if:
  • A repeatedly or continuously engages in behaviour towards another person, B, that is controlling or coercive; and
  • At time of the behaviour, A and B are personally connected; and
  • The behaviour has a serious effect on B; and
  • A knows or ought to know that the behaviour will have a serious effect on B.
A and B are 'personally connected' if:
  • they are in an intimate personal relationship; or
  • they live together and are either members of the same family; or
  • they live together have previously been in an intimate personal relationship with each other.
There are two ways in which it can be proved that A's behaviour has a 'serious effect' on B:
  • If it causes B to fear, on at least two occasions, that violence will be used against them - s.76 (4)(a); or
  • If it causes B serious alarm or distress which has a substantial adverse effect on their day-to-day activities - s.76 (4) (b).
For the purposes of this offence, behaviour must be engaged in 'repeatedly' or 'continuously'.

Another, separate, element of the offence is that it must have a 'serious effect' on someone and one way of proving this is that it causes someone to fear, on at least two occasions, that violence will be used against them.

The phrase 'substantial adverse effect on Bs usual day-to-day activities' may include, but is not limited to:
  • Stopping or changing the way someone socialises
  • Physical or mental health deterioration
  • A change in routine at home including those associated with mealtimes or household chores
  • Attendance record at school
  • Putting in place measures at home to safeguard themselves or their children
  • Changes to work patterns, employment status or routes to work
A person guilty of an offence under this section is liable:

  • On conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years, or a fine, or both;
  • On summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 6 months, or a fine, or both
 

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What a scumbag of a human being. As good of a player he was, I really hope somebody passes his appearances record for the club. A scumbag like that doesn't deserve to be held in high esteem.
 

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FFS what a cnut.

I was hoping to see him back at United in the future.
 

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I wonder how the Class if 92 treat him still, says a lot about them too if they just ignore all this
 
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