Ryan Giggs charged with assaulting two women...

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That should be it - all these years I've tried to think of Giggs the player and Giggs the person as two different people but this is it. He's a fecking cnut and should be nowhere near this club. His legend status as a player is thoroughly tainted.
 

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While I will not call him names (even if he would deserve) but he clearly needs some kind of help. This doesn't help his character att all, specially when you concider his past.
 

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I wonder how the Class if 92 treat him still, says a lot about them too if they just ignore all this
Would like to think they’d try to help him (get him the help he needs).
 

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I am a strong advocate of Innocent until proven guilty as a principle.

However, he still shouldn’t and should never have been Wales manager as nobbing your brother’s wife is not an example to set for kids imo
 

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Such a shame, I'm the same age as Giggsy and loved watching him. He is the reason I have a soft spot for United, I think he was one of the very best players of his generation. Such a shame that the more you hear about him the more apparent it is that he's a complete twat.
 

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A lot of condemnation here, do we know exactly what happened? The tweets aren't very detailed.
 

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I’ve always heard stories about his behaviour in clubs/bars towards women so not surprised.

As others have said, great player but not a great person.

I try to separate art from the person but I find it difficult with Giggs. He’s the reason I supported United in 94, the player I first looked up to but I don’t like to think much of him now
 

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Maybe he’s just going through a mid life crisis...And just because he’s charged doesn’t mean that he’s going to be convicted...
 

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Not really related but did anyone watch '24 hours in police custody' with the woman who beat her fella, who died in hospital of a heart attack, and she only got 8 months?
 

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I wonder how the Class if 92 treat him still, says a lot about them too if they just ignore all this
Nicky Butt has been in trouble in this regard too. Assault charge against him dropped last year after his wife declined to give evidence. He was arrested & bailed for assaulting a woman in 2004 too, I believe. Hard to see him speaking up about Giggs being arrested.
 

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Is it time to give Giggs the Benoit treatment and erase him from United history?
Absolutely not. It's important to separate Giggs the player from Giggs the person.

There's also the matter of "innocent until proven guilty", but that's not relevant to my point.
 

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Innocent until proven guilty and all that, but I don't really see how his position as Wales manager is tenable at the moment with this sort of charge/trial hanging over him.
 

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Maybe he’s just going through a mid life crisis...And just because he’s charged doesn’t mean that he’s going to be convicted...
Don't care much about celebrities. I would still listen to him and watch him but this is naive. He's a cnut. Nothing to do about mid life crisis.
 

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Hopefully my midlife crisis doesn't involve being abusive to women.
If the allegations are true,then obviously his actions can’t be condoned.But we still don’t know the entire story...Giggsey may prove to be innocent at the end of the day.The basic tenet of law is innocent until proven guilty...
 

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This is an example of too many people worshipping others because they have talent.

I hate celebrity worship passionately, happens loads with musicians especially. Stop looking to them for life guidance. On the flipside, because I completely separate the person and the art, I am able to still enjoy the art of some despicable people, without a meed to ‘cancel’ them. Cancelling comes about because people are too invested in celebs in the first place, and expectations have been failed due to their transgressions.
Well said. You don't need to cancel Giggs. Just separate the player from the person.
 

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Apparently, repeatedly cheating on his girlfriend and having an affair with his brother's wife wasn't enough for Giggsy to destroy his legacy, so he took to beating women as a means to cement it.

Well played, Ryan. That did it.
 

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Isn't this more than the first allegation of assault and or domestic violence. No smoke without fire. Guys a twat. Needs to have the law thrown at him
 

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He just continues to disappoint. One of my favourite players. Giggs :(
Absolutely idolized him till that damn revelation which was so difficult to stomach.

Can wait for this case to be completed but he's an exceptionally demented human being based on his previous stuff. I can't really recall many people either personally or publicly who went on to shag their fecking brother's wife. Takes a special kind of vile human being to stoop that low.
 

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We will know more next Wednesday once he has his pre-trial hearing at the Magistrates' Court. If they commit the trial to the Crown Court, then we know that they think their sentencing powers (max 12 months) would be inadequate if he is found guilty. He could get up to five years in the Crown Court.
 

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Well, maybe it’s better to give the guy some help. He clearly have troubles. Famous or not, he deserves help.
 
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