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I just dont see why Ole persists. All this talk of £100m+ for Sancho, £80m for Sancho, where a CB partner for Maguire should be #1 on the list.
Soft as shit. How he’s a defender in the premier league I’ll never know. We need an upgrade.
Absolute fanny
He’s the epitome of the Kobe gif where he mouths ‘soft’
He needs serious competition, can’t be a nailed on starter if we have title aspirations.
He needs serious competition, can’t be a nailed on starter if we have title aspirations.
Not his best game, but the first goal was not his fault. His rating in the match thread is a joke. He was not our worst player. At all.
Perhaps Ole has just been reading too many redcafe posts from the past 3 or 4 years which got him to be obsessive about "ball playing defenders"
. Lindelof has improved in that area this season and could be nominated as our most effective user of the ball from CB because of how many good long passes he's used to get the likes of Rashford in behind the defence. But he's not a solid defender and in my opinion theres no reason why our DM can't be playing those passes Lindelof has played, while a better defender defends at CB. Makes no sense to me to have it the other way roundPoorest game in a while.
One poor game after several good games and he is shit again.
Poor performance. Careless for their goal, outmuscled another time and a poor pass gifted Villa possession in our defensive third. A couple of good moments but needs to defend better than he did today.
Have defended him a lot against some way over the top criticism on here, but he was awful today, poor for the goal and lucky to avoid conceding after his other mistakes.
Incredibly weak
It will never end. CAF obviously want someone aggressive and reckless instead.
Who was?
I don't think he is shit. But, I think if we are going to upgrade, he should be the one to go.
He is always good at defending in spaces. When he does it well in games, he plays good.
He is weak at defending in one on one. When he is exposed to that in games, he plays shit.
I think it is consistent.
He is always good at defending in spaces. When he does it well in games, he plays good.
He is weak at defending in one on one. When he is exposed to that in games, he plays shit.
I think it is consistent.
Easily McTominay. But Victor was bottom-three bad this game. That is most unusual.
Shakey one today from Mr. Lindelof.
I get that most here think he is not good enough, but to be honest in the current market there is no way we can sell him and buy another one. Its been years the manager has spent integrating him and there is no way you just get rid of him. For better or for worse he is staying in the team for the next few years and we will have to hope that the coaching staff work on cutting out his errors!
You dont think Lindelof's defending was reckless today? Reckless touch set up the goal and reckless when he got outmuscled and AWB had to clear the ball at the back post near the end
He might play better if we had a better CM but on current form he shouldn't be starting next season.
Crazy. How long did it take to integrate Bruno, Henderson or Cavani?
How about Chelsea and Thiago Silva, now in the champions league final? Ruben Dias at City?
It's not most unusual. Utd have been playing well so usually, everyone has a good game. Lindelof would typically be in the bottom 3 performers along with Fred and maybe McTominay but that doesn't mean they are bad players. They are just not as good as the others.
It was. You don't give the ball back to attacker after you've got a touch in your own box. The strike was phenomenal and quite unexpected from that angle, but he shouldn't have had the ball in the first place.
Don't think he was at fault for the goal. It was a good turn by Traore and he overextended in the getting the tackle in. It wasn't strong enough to remove the threat entirely but the only option for Traore then was really to produce a wonderstrike.
Was very poor defending for the Watkins' chance though.
Was very poor defending for the Watkins' chance though.
I generally support the guy and he has been good recently (inspite of what people on the CAF might want everyone to believe) but today was a poor day at the office.
He persists as he's our second best choice, Ole can't magic new players into the club.
If Pogba goes we can do both. We get Botman and his strengths are Lindelof' weaknesses, I'd say he'd compliment both Harry and Lindelof. Under 40 million euro's he's possible the best option out there and is having an outstanding season thus far
If it was a good turn Lindelof wouldnt have got there first with the chance to clear it. Traore overdid the touch and Lindelof gave it back to him in a position where he could shoot
I think that's my opinion too. I don't think any of them are bad players, all of them are good, no doubt about it, and I'd happily keep them all at the club. I think they happen to be the most obviously upgradable starters. It's just a natural side effect when you're team is on a serious upward trajectory, like ours has been over the last 2.5 years, that players who aren't as good as the others begin to stand out.
I understand your frustration. But comparing Bruno Cavani is unfair. They both make plenty of mistakes but they do not get punished, but for a defender one mistake is enough to be set on fire by fans. As far as Thiago Silva is concerned you are absolutely right, but he was exposed under their previous manager. We can follow the Chelsea model of buying and dumping players/managers but something tells me United are much more accomplished than that. That sort of management is not sustainable for a club like United and I agree. But you are absolutely right, some players do make instant impact, sadly Victor is not one of them.
It was a sharp turn and executed quicky but Lindelof read the turn and therefore was able to reach it. He should have went in harder to put Traore off-balance. That's really the only thing that could remove the goal threat entirely.
Exactly. I'd be very happy to keep them all in the squad but they're upgradable.
He had the ball. All he had to do was kick the ball out of play or get a better contact on the ball and move it out of danger. Very simple
Unusually bad today.
Thats the point though. Just because Lindelof was terrible when he first came in and it took years for him to become a fairly good option for some matches doesnt mean his replacement would take that long. That was a Lindelof problem
He’s too slight for a centre half, and struggles against physically imposing forwards.
To be fair, the last game we played without him in defence, we conceded 13 shots on target. I think he has been very good alongside Maguire for a while now.
He definitely gets over-the-top criticism at times, but he actually was poor today. One of his worst games in quite a while.
Still excuses being made. He was very poor
Sloppy overall today but you cant blame him much for the goal. Brilliant turn and then a perfect top corner finish. Sometimes it happens and theres not much you can do about it.
This is an overall fair assessment.
The bolded bit is exactly why I went off on one after the Roma game, where he shepherd a player 30 yards into his own half, not actually doing anything to stop the run/pass just before we conceded the 2nd goal. The usual justifications and defending came out like 'he did well to stall the player and make time for his team mates', 'a centre back shouldn't dive in or go reckless' or 'he played it smart by containing'. The simple fact is that he is consistently passive and weak on 1 on 1s and prefers to stall rather than engage. He has history of doing this and it manifested today.
It works well when you have two combatitive midfielders in front of you and the game is one paced. When it calls for some individual quality and nous, which we should expect all of our players and stamp their authority, he's just another body on the field. Today was one of his worst games in a while, which should be praise because that's to say he hasn't had many 'poor' ones (and that's me be generous) but the truth is that he doesn't shine enough in any attribute to be given a pass like this. A good game from him is not making a major mistake, passing well but safe to AWB/Maguire and clearing what's in front of him. Just passable stuff.
Someone was claiming in the Maguire thread that he's as equally good and impactful on the ball as Maguire
. Aside from the long ball, which he has improved a lot and has been very good with this year (including this game with a switch to Shaw), his passing is 90% square to AWB/Maguire, whilst deep in his own half.- Status