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If he agreed to a big pay-cut and accepted rotation, it wouldn't be the worst signing.
 

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Wouldn't touch him. Not worth the money and would be a tactical headache.
 

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So...

Do we think that if Juventus really miss out on Champions League football next season is Ronaldo back to Manchester possible?

They're playing a huge game vs. Milan tonight (who may also miss out on UCL - if they lose).
If Juventus really miss out, I believe Ronaldo would be happy to lower his wage to find any suitable club which has CL football next season. Afterall, his Instagram account is earning more than his wages at Juventus anyway, just make a few most posts there, he would earn back all the difference in wages. (I’ve heard he earn more than 1m per each advertised post in Instagram, so 50 posts per years he would earn over 50m, easy money)
 

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If there was no fee involved and he wasn't looking paid half a million a week I'd take Ronaldo for a year.
 

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I mean, it’s been probably the most debated thing in the entire sport over the past 10 years, so I’d disagree that most see it as clear cut as you do. Some prefer Ronaldo, others prefer Messi. But if one was to burn out at 34, and the other played at the top until 40, that would hold a lot of sway, was my point.
Didn’t Messi get 60%+ in the last poll here?

There’s a debate, but from my experience reading various football boards, the ratio is usually 2:1 or thereabouts in favour of Messi, which is pretty decisive tbh.
 

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Didn’t Messi get 60%+ in the last poll here?

There’s a debate, but from my experience reading various football boards, the ratio is usually 2:1 or thereabouts in favour of Messi, which is pretty decisive tbh.
depends where you read I guess. Just anecdotally I’ve seen about equal amounts of preference for each.
 

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depends where you read I guess. Just anecdotally I’ve seen about equal amounts of preference for each.
https://onefootball.com/en/news/lionel-messi-doesnt-surprise-in-twitter-polls-29719664

Random Twitter polls seem to back up my experience, so did the one on this board, which is ostensibly more pro-Ronaldo than, say, an Ajax or Dortmund board for instance.

There are countless arguments and stats you can make to back up your case for either, but I don’t think Messi having an edge with the football public at large is questionable.
 

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https://onefootball.com/en/news/lionel-messi-doesnt-surprise-in-twitter-polls-29719664

Random Twitter polls seem to back up my experience, so did the one on this board, which is ostensibly more pro-Ronaldo than, say, an Ajax or Dortmund board for instance.

There are countless arguments and stats you can make to back up your case for either, but I don’t think Messi having an edge with the football public at large is questionable.
I think we need to look at this larger polls to get to see the bigger picture. The sky sports one you’ve posted (around 150k votes) shows 55% favours Messi vs 45% favours Ronaldo, while the Lineker one (390k votes) under same link you’ve post shows around 60% favours Messi to 40% on Ronaldo. I think these are about the right figure I’ve seen in most major polls over the years.

But it really depends on what kind of polls you looking at, for example, this poll is one of the latest and biggest yet I’ve seen (480k votes), where Ronaldo is ahead:




So it’s never as clear cut as you’ve made out to be. It’s all selective, people tend to read into what they believed most.
 

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https://onefootball.com/en/news/lionel-messi-doesnt-surprise-in-twitter-polls-29719664

Random Twitter polls seem to back up my experience, so did the one on this board, which is ostensibly more pro-Ronaldo than, say, an Ajax or Dortmund board for instance.

There are countless arguments and stats you can make to back up your case for either, but I don’t think Messi having an edge with the football public at large is questionable.
You’re right, it’s not. Virtually every poll I’ve ever seen favours Messi to a greater or lesser degree. The Messi v Ronaldo website poll also has Messi ahead IIRC. I think that once they both retire, Messi’s reputation will grow even further and he will definitely be remembered as the better player, because the magic in his game will linger long in the memory.
 

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I think we need to look at this larger polls to get to see the bigger picture. The sky sports one you’ve posted (around 150k votes) shows 55% favours Messi vs 45% favours Ronaldo, while the Lineker one (390k votes) under same link you’ve post shows around 60% favours Messi to 40% on Ronaldo. I think these are about the right figure I’ve seen in most major polls over the years.

But it really depends on what kind of polls you looking at, for example, this poll is one of the latest and biggest yet I’ve seen (480k votes), where Ronaldo is ahead:




So it’s never as clear cut as you’ve made out to be. It’s all selective, people tend to read into what they believed most.
The problem with that last poll is that by introducing 2 other options, you created variables. So the question shifted from ‘who do you think is better out of A/B’ to ‘which is the best, A,B,C or D?’. A person may think Messi is the better footballer than Ronaldo yet have Pele/Maradona above both, not quite the same thing.
 

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The problem with that last poll is that by introducing 2 other options, you created variables. So the question shifted from ‘who do you think is better out of A/B’ to ‘which is the best, A,B,C or D?’. A person may think Messi is the better footballer than Ronaldo yet have Pele/Maradona above both, not quite the same thing.
Of course, but Ronaldo still win over Messi in the biggest and most recent poll. I am not saying this concludes anything, but that’s just the nature of poll, bear in mind Ronaldo has by far the biggest following in social media too, so it’s not really exactly a shock if some major polls results favours Ronaldo.
 

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Of course, but Ronaldo still win over Messi in the biggest and most recent poll. I am not saying this concludes anything, but that’s just the nature of poll, bear in mind Ronaldo has by far the biggest following in social media too, so it’s not really exactly a shock if some major polls results favours Ronaldo.
If you have accepted that the framing wasn’t relevant to the question being asked then you can’t really claim he ‘won’, can you?

There’s this weird reticence from Ronaldo fans to admit that Messi is regarded by more followers of the sport as better. You have a similar discussion, oftentimes just as toxic, in tennis, but none but the most hardcore Nadal/Djokovic fan would refuse to admit that Federer is the most popular player.
 

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If you have accepted that the framing wasn’t relevant to the question being asked then you can’t really claim he ‘won’, can you?

There’s this weird reticence from Ronaldo fans to admit that Messi is regarded by more followers of the sport as better. You have a similar discussion, oftentimes just as toxic, in tennis, but none but the most hardcore Nadal/Djokovic fan would refuse to admit that Federer is the most popular player.
Well he won GOAT in the biggest and most recent poll, ahead of Messi. So this is what it’s is, nothing more nothing less. Not that I agree with the poll itself, of course there are many variables (those vote for Maradona may prefer Messi over Ronaldo, for instance). But I am just saying, if you read so much into this kind of poll, you just have to accept the reality of such results happening too, even if you don’t like it.
 

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I think we would have to trust Ole and the rest of the transfer committee on this one. They got it right with Cavani and I've no doubt that we wouldn't have touched him had he not completely convinced them that his appetite was still there.

Its the same thing here with Ronaldo. He is a born winner and I can't imagine him coming here simply for a payday, so the questions come down to whether he is still good enough and fits what we need, and what the financials would look like.
 

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I dont know if Cavani is staying next year or not - but its dependent on that from our perspective.

Personally I think Ronaldo wants to win a CL with a 3rd team rather than re join us.
 

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I dont know if Cavani is staying next year or not - but its dependent on that from our perspective.

Personally I think Ronaldo wants to win a CL with a 3rd team rather than re join us.
Ronaldo doesn't give a shit about us
 

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Yes please.

Ronaldo is oddly under rated on here. If we’d had him this season we’d of won the league.
I think that's a silly statement to make tbh.

If he's such a game changer at this stage of his career, why aren't Juventus challenging for the title this season with him in the team, instead of hoping for a CL place?
 

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If Ronaldo wasnt ridiculously handsome/ripped/charismatic it wouldn't be a debate.
 

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Ronaldo doesn't give a shit about us
Exactly. He moved to Juventus to win a CL with a 3rd separate club in 3 different leagues; I don't see why he would come back to England where he already conquered in his eyes.

I can see him going to PSG, I can maybe imagine Ronaldo himself begging Bayern to buy him on a single year contract (doubt bayern would be interested), finally sticking to Italy or moving back to Portugal depending on how the euros go.
 

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I think that's a silly statement to make tbh.

If he's such a game changer at this stage of his career, why aren't Juventus challenging for the title this season with him in the team, instead of hoping for a CL place?
We have a much better side than Juve.

The amount of draws we’ve had against rubbish sides. He’d of helped us a lot more than James etc in those games.
 

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Would he really want to give up his lifestyle in the sun to comeback to Manchester where he was treated like a slave.
 

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If you take out his penalties, he's scoring at a worse rate than Cavani this season.
 

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The problem with that last poll is that by introducing 2 other options, you created variables. So the question shifted from ‘who do you think is better out of A/B’ to ‘which is the best, A,B,C or D?’. A person may think Messi is the better footballer than Ronaldo yet have Pele/Maradona above both, not quite the same thing.
Which is exactly what I think. Nice try from him though :lol:
 

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Imagine him, Haaland, Kane and Cavani as our options up top next season. Back to the days we always used to have 4 good options - we had Cole, Yorke, Sheringham, Solskjaer etc.

Give us this 4 by way of apology Glazers. After years of not spending what we’re capable of let’s finally go and do something with a window.
 

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Imagine him, Haaland, Kane and Cavani as our options up top next season. Back to the days we always used to have 4 good options - we had Cole, Yorke, Sheringham, Solskjaer etc.

Give us this 4 by way of apology Glazers. After years of not spending what we’re capable of let’s finally go and do something with a window.
Then you woke up
 

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Imagine him, Haaland, Kane and Cavani as our options up top next season. Back to the days we always used to have 4 good options - we had Cole, Yorke, Sheringham, Solskjaer etc.

Give us this 4 by way of apology Glazers. After years of not spending what we’re capable of let’s finally go and do something with a window.
Imagining.
 

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Only way his comeback would work it's if he accepts a secondary role.
Maybe he'll accept the no9 shirt when he signs in a couple of months.
No way. CR7 is a brand and United would want to exploit that.

He isn't what we need for this team. And Cavani had no Club. There was no fee for him like it would be with Ronaldo and Juve. And no massive wages, ego, etc.

I would say the people who want him back are the ones who aren't seeing the big picture according to what the team needs for the next years. Ronaldo is old now, and he has no playmaking habilities, he's pace isn't the same either. We are talking about Premier League, not Serie A where the game is slow, and the teams are not as physical and strong as whe have here.
 
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