Good call. There’s been games where Sakho’s genuinely looked like he might be playing drunk, only to somehow put in a quality defensive performance.Sakho. Same type
It is and it was just as ridiculous when people in here were claiming he was the best CB at the club on the back of him having a good run of 4-6 games for the first time in 2-3 years at the start of the year.A big part of his loveableness is how he plays football, though. Reckless, mad, absolutely no consideration given to the welfare of himself or the person he's taking down. He's not just a wacky personality off the pitch which would be boring and would give him much less allowance.
I think it's really harsh to judge centre backs coming in for one game and effectively writing them off. The majority of centre backs need a run of consistent games to look anything like a decent footballer. Chucking them in once in a blue moon and then wondering why they failed to impress seems ridiculous.
He's been the same for 5 years now ... this isn't kneejerk because of 1 game , I don't blame Bailly for being a crock and therefor never getting a good run of games to show his true potential , I blame our idiotic board for keeping this type of player on the books. I love Bailly, but I am a bit bored now of not winning trophies and carrying liabilities in our squad that's allA big part of his loveableness is how he plays football, though. Reckless, mad, absolutely no consideration given to the welfare of himself or the person he's taking down. He's not just a wacky personality off the pitch which would be boring and would give him much less allowance.
I think it's really harsh to judge centre backs coming in for one game and effectively writing them off. The majority of centre backs need a run of consistent games to look anything like a decent footballer. Chucking them in once in a blue moon and then wondering why they failed to impress seems ridiculous.
Yeah and then decides to not even bother running back to help defend the counter attack his poor pass created.I think why some people like him is purely the entertainment factor. I mean how boring is Maguire and Lindelof? Extremely boring.
Bring on Bailly and you are on the edge of your seat. Brilliant control in his own box, surround by the opposition. A Cruijff turn on his own penalty spot, a dummy past two opposing players and striding forward, going past the opposition midfield like a knife thru butter. Reach the edge of the opposition box and has four of his team mates as options to pass with only one opposing defender between him and the goal and then he passes straight to the only opposing player who sets a counter attack with Bailly and half his team mates all out of position.
Only Eric Bailly could do it.
But don't you love to watch him play? I mean in games that's meaningless? I hope we win the next two games and he plays in the remaining games simply for the entertainment factor.Yeah and then decides to not even bother running back to help defend the counter attack his poor pass created.
The enigma that is Eric Bailly.
Would you like to see all our defenders do crazy, wacky things during games for the entertainment value of it?But don't you love to watch him play? I mean in games that's meaningless? I hope we win the next two games and he plays in the remaining games simply for the entertainment factor.
No, I find it frustrating and hair pulling.But don't you love to watch him play? I mean in games that's meaningless? I hope we win the next two games and he plays in the remaining games simply for the entertainment factor.
Yes I do in meaningless matches. Or in matches where we are winning handsomely. I nearly fell off laughing against Roma when he went on that run and then as Mitcher said nearly pulled out my hair when he refused to run back after passing it to the Roma player.Would you like to see all our defenders do crazy, wacky things during games for the entertainment value of it?
This. IMO the whole "he's entertaining, we need to keep playing him" take feels like one big cope as a result of the new contract we gave him.No, I find it frustrating and hair pulling.
Lindelof has improved and the partnership with Maguire looks better and better. The best scenario though is Lindelof being third choice because we upgrade. Agreed on Bailly. He was his usual self. Erratic, reckless, brave.Crazy how many were calling for him to start over Lindelof just a month or so ago.
We should be looking to upgrade/replace CF, RB, RW and CM before CB.Lindelof has improved and the partnership with Maguire looks better and better. The best scenario though is Lindelof being third choice because we upgrade. Agreed on Bailly. He was his usual self. Erratic, reckless, brave.
It was a European semi final, hardly a meaningless match. And to be honest no I don't find it entertaining.Yes I do in meaningless matches. Or in matches where we are winning handsomely. I nearly fell off laughing against Roma when he went on that run and then as Mitcher said nearly pulled out my hair when he refused to run back after passing it to the Roma player.
I don't think our CBs are the problem. If we have a top class DM in front of them we don't need to look at getting a new CB right now.We should be looking to upgrade/replace CF, RB, RW and CM before CB.
There seems to be an irrational dislike for our CBs that isn't really grounded in anything other than a preference for a different style of defending. We're very hard to beat and, once you discount the first few games of the season where our squad clearly wasn't up to speed, we've been as solid as anyone. If we can upgrade then fine, but it shouldn't be a priority.I don't think our CBs are the problem. If we have a top class DM in front of them we don't need to look at getting a new CB right now.
Yeah - you could probably say that.There seems to be an irrational dislike for our CBs that isn't really grounded in anything other than a preference for a different style of defending.
I predict people will start talking about the need for a top class CB after about two weeks into next season if we don't do it.We should be looking to upgrade/replace CF, RB, RW and CM before CB.
The last part can can easily be applied to McTominay. Bailly's best performances this season helped propel united to 1st in January and he was rewarded with a place on the bench against Liverpool in that game 0-0 game at AnfieldHe's just a walking meme now...
If he was english and/or an academy graduate he wouldn't be getting the benefit of doubt.
That's called rotation mate.The last part can can easily be applied to McTominay. Bailly's best performances this season helped propel united to 1st in January and he was rewarded with a place on the bench against Liverpool in that game 0-0 game at Anfield
Correlation does not equal causation.The last part can can easily be applied to McTominay. Bailly's best performances this season helped propel united to 1st in January and he was rewarded with a place on the bench against Liverpool in that game 0-0 game at Anfield
Nothing wrong with 2 CMs siting on the base. It is called balance. If we are to use our FBs high up, you need one for each side to cover/support. I can't actually think of another top team in EPL or CL playing with only 1 DM/CM sitting ALONE on the base without support. It is humanly impossible to cover the whole pitch unless their FBs sits next to them or don't overlap as much. If your CBs loses most of long ball from deep or slow at chasing after thru balls then the defense has to have numbers to make up for it.The issue is that none of our DMs on their own is good enough. You have to use two of them to do the job of one class DM.
Hardly. Bailly was match fit and dropped to the bench after two arguably MOTM performances. What did Lindelof do to usurp him? I feel he deserved to continue his run.That's called rotation mate.
Because he's erratic, inconsistent and injury prone. Hence why he was rotated.Hardly. Bailly was match fit and dropped to the bench after two arguably MOTM performances. What did Lindelof do to usurp him? I feel he deserved to continue his run.
He outperformed Maguire in both matches before Liverpool as well, making vital blocks that secured our three points. Im sure you remember the players swarming him after a last minute block against Villa in a game we won 2-1 to maintain our number one spot I the league at the time. He was on fire, so why bench him in while he's high on confidence?
He doesn't make a good pair he is all over the place all the time.Not his best game but don’t want to judge him when he plays with a new back line as that makes it very difficult for a CB. However don’t think Tuanzebe and him make a good pair.
Bailly the senior defender. That it so not a good role for him.Bailly considering he is supposed to be the senior defender last night was terrible for me. Poor in possession too.