Harry Kane | "I will be staying at Tottenham this summer and will be 100% focused on helping the team achieve success."

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

How many of them were Utd fans from childhood and brought up in a family who supported Utd? I'm asking because I genuinely don't know.

honestly it doesn’t matter.

Ask Alan Smith. Staunch lifelong Leeds fan, who even came out and said he would never play for United.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....ews/bitter-rival-swore-hed-never-20144635.amp

“I don’t want to make any excuse for signing for Manchester United because it was a football-based decision.”

“I’d be doing myself a disservice if I didn't sign for, arguably at that time, the biggest club in the world.”

you don’t seem to comprehend that footballers think about their careers first and foremost.

 

[balaks]

honestly it doesn’t matter.

Ask Alan Smith. Staunch lifelong Leeds fan, who even came out and said he would never play for United.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....ews/bitter-rival-swore-hed-never-20144635.amp

“I don’t want to make any excuse for signing for Manchester United because it was a football-based decision.”

“I’d be doing myself a disservice if I didn't sign for, arguably at that time, the biggest club in the world.”

you don’t seem to comprehend that footballers think about their careers first and foremost.

It does matter - I take it none of them were proper Utd fans then - Smith moved from Leeds when they got relegated so it's a totally different situation to what Harry is facing.

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

It does matter - I take it none of them were proper Utd fans then - Smith moved from Leeds when they got relegated so it's a totally different situation to what Harry is facing.

For goodness sake. You are being foolish. As multiple people in the thread have said, we don’t expect him to move to Chelsea directly from spurs.

but to keep on banging on that he will never sign for a rival is utter drivel. Get a grip and stop thinking like a deluded football supporter.

 

[balaks]

For goodness sake. You are being foolish. As multiple people in the thread have said, we don’t expect him to move to Chelsea directly from spurs.

but to keep on banging on that he will never sign for a rival is utter drivel. Get a grip and stop thinking like a deluded football supporter.

Ooooooook. No need for that but thanks for your opinion. Multiple people have suggested exactly that in this thread but to be honest I can't be bothered even talking about this any more. It's like banging my head on the wall.

 

[Pow]

Kanes an arsenal fan.

 

[Counterfactual]

What's the story behind him wearing an Arsenal shirt as a kid? I always think about that photo when people say how loyal he is to Spurs...

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

Ooooooook. No need for that but thanks for your opinion.

There is a need when you can’t even take on a simple point.

what club a footballer supported as a child, or who they’ve played for matters very little. We would all love to think it does, but it doesn’t. Most people can comprehend such a simple point.

 

[balaks]

There is a need when you can’t even take on a simple point.

what club a footballer supported as a child, or who they’ve played for matters very little. We would all love to think it does, but it doesn’t. Most people can comprehend such a simple point.

Ok mate. I mean its fine to have a different opinion without resorting to calling people foolish or lacking in basic comprehension. Stay classy.

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

Ok mate. I mean its fine to have a different opinion without resorting to calling people foolish or lacking in basic comprehension. Stay classy.

you weren’t presenting it as an opinion though.

 

[romufc]

It does matter - I take it none of them were proper Utd fans then - Smith moved from Leeds when they got relegated so it's a totally different situation to what Harry is facing.

Harry wants to have a chance to win trophies, it is clear that that will not happen at Spurs. He has shown his loyalty already by staying for these many years, if Spurs cannot match his ambition, it is only fair to let him move.

Harry has to think about his career, not about who he supports.

 

[balaks]

you weren’t presenting it as an opinion though.

Ahh so its fine then. Fair enough - keep on saying whatever you want about me then. I'm obviously fair game at this point.

 

[balaks]

Harry wants to have a chance to win trophies, it is clear that that will not happen at Spurs. He has shown his loyalty already by staying for these many years, if Spurs cannot match his ambition, it is only fair to let him move.

Harry has to think about his career, not about who he supports.

I'm not arguing against that - I agree with that. My point is that I don't feel Harry would agree to join a direct rival to Spurs because of his strong love of the club. I could be wrong of course but everything I know about the guy tells me he wouldn't contemplate it.

 

[B20]

Would Gerrard play for United?

He was willing to go to Chelsea.

 

[balaks]

He was willing to go to Chelsea.

I don't think that was the question.

 

[balaks]

Kanes an arsenal fan.

No... no he is not.

 

[B20]

I don't think that was the question.

Transferring directly from Liverpool to Chelsea is worse on the loyalty scale than going from spurs to city to Chelsea.

 

[Pow]

No... no he is not.

Yes he is.

 

[balaks]

Transferring directly from Liverpool to Chelsea is worse on the loyalty scale than going from spurs to city to Chelsea.

Would he have moved to Everton or Utd? Are you going to answer that question or just dance around it?

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

Ahh so its fine then. Fair enough - keep on saying whatever you want about me then. I'm obviously fair game at this point.

i think it’s more than fair to say you are being foolish (in my opinion). If you are taking that as offensive, then I apologise - but think your persistence in light of lots of examples where players have done exactly what you don’t think Kane will do Is exactly as I’ve described.

 

[balaks]

Yes he is.

Ok mate.

 

[Pow]

Ok mate.

OK mate what ? The proof is above him in an arsenal shirt multiple times. You can't change teams.

 

[balaks]

i think it’s more than fair to say you are being foolish (in my opinion). If you are taking that as offensive, then I apologise - but think your persistence in light of lots of examples where players have done exactly what you don’t think Kane will do Is exactly as I’ve described.

If you are the sort of person who thinks somebody having a different opinion to you is foolish (in your opinion) then I think that says a lot.

 

[balaks]

OK mate what ? The proof is above him in an arsenal shirt multiple times. You can't change teams.

I'm not going to repeat what I have repeated. Do your own research would be my advice.

 

[Pow]

I'm not going to repeat what I have repeated. Do your own research would be my advice.

Show me him in a spurs shirt as a kid

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

If you are the sort of person who thinks somebody having a different opinion to you is foolish (in your opinion) then I think that says a lot.

that’s not what happened! Let’s leave the pettiness here shall we.

 

[balaks]

Show me him in a spurs shirt as a kid

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...al-picture-of-him-in-an-arsenal-shirt-aged-8/

I did say do your own research but look I just did it for you anyway.

 

[balaks]

that’s not what happened! Let’s leave the pettiness here shall we.

Ok now I'm petty also - keep those comments coming. Really showing you in a good light.

 

[golden_blunder]

Who he supported as a kid means nothing

Ole, O’Shea were Liverpool fans growing up. Carragher was an Everton fan

and so on. Wouldn’t read too much into it

 

[Pow]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...al-picture-of-him-in-an-arsenal-shirt-aged-8/

I did say do your own research but look I just did it for you anyway.

Sounds like an excuse. How did he explain the other one Where's he's out celebrating ?

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

Ok now I'm petty also - keep those comments coming. Really showing you in a good light.

As I said I’ll leave it. Winning on the internet is not a priority for me.

 

[VP89]

OK mate what ? The proof is above him in an arsenal shirt multiple times. You can't change teams.

I've worn a Liverpool shirt to appease my dad. I don't give a feck about wearing shirts as long as people know what club I support. It's a bit of a kid thing.

Posting a picture of him in an Arsenal top is just daft logic to insinuate he'd be fine with Arsenal or Chelsea or whatever as a club. His time with Spurs overrides all of that, I don't think Levy will even entertain something let alone a choice falling on Harry in the first place.

 

[balaks]

As I said I’ll leave it. Winning on the internet is not a priority for me.

Ok thank you. We are allowed to agree to disagree you know!

 

[Bob Rivers]

The real question is, why did Kane sign a new contract and committed his future to Spurs in the first place back when he did? He may have a feeling at the time that Pochettino is the real deal and to be fair a few years ago Spurs looked like a very competitive side on the verge of winning something. Still, knowing Levi and his history of dealings with top players trying to leave Tottenham (Modric, Berbatov, Carrick), if I were Kane I'd have insisted on a stipulation added to my contract before I put pen to paper and sign any extension, that if in say a couple of years another club comes with an offer no less than a certain agreed amount, I'm free to leave. Granted, Levi is probably too shrewd to agree to something like that, but there's no chance in hell he'd have allowed Kane see out a contract and leave on a free.

 

[Ish]

This last page is a disaster

 

[littleman]

The real question is, why did Kane sign a new contract and committed his future to Spurs in the first place back when he did? He may have a feeling at the time that Pochettino is the real deal and to be fair a few years ago Spurs looked like a very competitive side on the verge of winning something. Still, knowing Levi and his history of dealings with top players trying to leave Tottenham (Modric, Berbatov, Carrick), if I were Kane I'd have insisted on a stipulation added to my contract before I put pen to paper and sign any extension, that if in say a couple of years another club comes with an offer no less than a certain agreed amount, I'm free to leave. Granted, Levi is probably too shrewd to agree to something like that, but there's no chance in hell he'd have allowed Kane see out a contract and leave on a free.

A great footballer does not a great businessman make.

In general, the agents should be taking care of this. However, this means you would have to pick the right agent. Plenty of great players make wrong choices that stifle their potential.

 

[ThierryHenry]

This last page is a disaster

Has been more entertaining than most Arsenal games last season.

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

The real question is, why did Kane sign a new contract and committed his future to Spurs in the first place back when he did? He may have a feeling at the time that Pochettino is the real deal and to be fair a few years ago Spurs looked like a very competitive side on the verge of winning something. Still, knowing Levi and his history of dealings with top players trying to leave Tottenham (Modric, Berbatov, Carrick), if I were Kane I'd have insisted on a stipulation added to my contract before I put pen to paper and sign any extension, that if in say a couple of years another club comes with an offer no less than a certain agreed amount, I'm free to leave. Granted, Levi is probably too shrewd to agree to something like that, but there's no chance in hell he'd have allowed Kane see out a contract and leave on a free.

everyone could see at the time this was a shocking deal to sign just for the length of time. Even if he wanted to stay, it meant he has no leverage in terms of what he gets paid for 3-4 years. To sign a deal that likely covers half of your career (6 years) is ridiculous.

agents in the game get a bad rep, but whoever has been acting for Kane has had an absolute mare.

 

[Ish]

Has been more entertaining than most Arsenal games last season.

Fair enough . We've suffered our fair share under LvG and Jose, in fairness. Even under OGS it's not always been great but a marked improvement on the others. Low bar and all.

 

[B20]

Would he have moved to Everton or Utd? Are you going to answer that question or just dance around it?

Would he have moved to United if he had left Liverpool and for whatever reason had to find a new club after his first transfer, with Liverpool long term adrift in mid table..? Yeah, I could see that happening.

The argument that you are not responding to is that it is not as comparable as you'd like to make it.

 

[iHicksy]

What's the story behind him wearing an Arsenal shirt as a kid? I always think about that photo when people say how loyal he is to Spurs...

....he was eight years old at Arsenal's academy. Even if he supported them as a child you can't hold the actions of a freaking 8 year old as some form of evidence he's not loyal to spurs since he's been with them since age 11. That's like saying "I always wondered if my wife truly loved me. After all, i'll never forget that time she was seen kissing Billy Jenkins outside at breaktime in primary school".