Christian Eriksen

[TheLord]

I had long thought that completion of BLS training should be mandatory at school.

If he had collapsed in the gym, or the hotel room, or even during practice sessions, he may not have made it. In cardiopulmonary resuscitation, every minute counts.

 

[Berbaclass]

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[Rektsanwalt]

Well they are confronted with it providing any of them are able to read a newsarticle. Instead they are just going to wear some shirts with the words human rights on it and that will be that. Anyway I don't want to go too off-topic about Qatar, it was just a broader perspective reflected on the incident from yesterday.

Although it's off-topic, it's a completely valid thought to have.
In my personal experience, the more drastic the confrontation, the more people will actually change or take consequences. Reading an article about climate change is absolutely boring and irrelevant compared to having your home flood by the rising sea or the other 1000 consequences that could be caused by climate change. Seeing someone/something die is a very impressive sight. This principle is so omnipresent! We could talk about food industry, climate change, war, whatever...people will be much, much more impressed if it affects them - either by seeing something drastic or feeling it. Same thing applies to the Eriksen incident regarding media coverage. If you were Eriksen's girlfriend, a member of his family or maybe Eriksen himself, you will most likely be much more careful when it comes to news coverage and very personal crisis situations.

It's a shame and shows the morale decay that we are so eager to accept these disgusting media behavior. feck all those news channels who kept showing his girlfriend, him being massaged and how his limp body jumped up due to the defi. I turned off the tv pretty fast after I saw how serious everything was, I don't want to be a voyeur. What happened there is the very essence of privacy - and while I know that it's a public tournament and football players agree to sell a lot of their privacy for their carreer - I heavily condemn those channels that showed everything. cnuts!

 

[UncleBob]

I'm honestly not sure what you're on about anymore. Cameramen continue filming injuries of all kinds.. concussions and head injuries, players bleeding, horrible leg breaks etc. In fact the still photographers would have got even worse close-up shots from yesterday, but you don't see those, just because their editor didn't put them up for public viewing.


You're saying it yourself, the Norwegian broadcaster chose to cut off the feed, several other imbecile broadcasters didn't. They fecked up, showing us scenes which we didn't need to see, not the fault of cameramen doing their job.

It's a sporting event, the fact that you try to compare it with camera crews arriving to document car crashes, or other current events, pretty much says it all. Apart from you speculating, there's little to back up your claim in regards to sporting events and camera crews. In terms of photographers, yes, but they're well aware that there's no risk of it going straight out for the world to see.

"Oy Steve, if a player is about to die, make sure you zoom in to get the close ups of his face as we might need it during broadcasting. Chris, see if you can find his wife on the pitch".

Sounds legit.

Zooming in on the faces of the Danish players that are standing in a circle around Eriksen, to film every reaction. Zooming in on his wife on the pitch. It takes a special type of cnut to do so. So yeah, i easily blame every cnut behind the camera, fully aware of the situation and that the player might already be dead. The full responsibility lies with the cnuts at UEFA that are in charge of the broadcast, for not switching to a completely different camera, though it doesn't absolve the people behind the camera for actively zooming in and out of the situation looking for content, nor does it absolve companies around the world for not having the common sense to instantly cut when they noticed UEFA were broadcasting everything.

 

[Camilo]

It's a sporting event, the fact that you try to compare it with camera crews arriving to document car crashes, or other current events, pretty much says it all. Apart from you speculating, there's little to back up your claim in regards to sporting events and camera crews. In terms of photographers, yes, but they're well aware that there's no risk of it going straight out for the world to see.

"Oy Steve, if a player is about to die, make sure you zoom in to get the close ups of his face as we might need it during broadcasting. Chris, see if you can find his wife on the pitch".

Sounds legit.

Zooming in on the faces of the Danish players that are standing in a circle around Eriksen, to film every reaction. Zooming in on his wife on the pitch. It takes a special type of cnut to do so. So yeah, i easily blame every cnut behind the camera, fully aware of the situation and that the player might already be dead. The full responsibility lies with the cnuts at UEFA that are in charge of the broadcast, for not switching to a completely different camera, though it doesn't absolve the people behind the camera for actively zooming in and out of the situation looking for content, nor does it absolve companies around the world for not having the common sense to instantly cut when they noticed UEFA were broadcasting everything.

Meh, each to their own. We all sat gripped as the twin towers collapsed.

 

[UncleBob]

Meh, each to their own. We all sat gripped as the twin towers collapsed.

Wasn't much of a family sporting event, was it?

 

[buchansleftleg]

It's a sporting event, the fact that you try to compare it with camera crews arriving to document car crashes, or other current events, pretty much says it all. Apart from you speculating, there's little to back up your claim in regards to sporting events and camera crews. In terms of photographers, yes, but they're well aware that there's no risk of it going straight out for the world to see.

"Oy Steve, if a player is about to die, make sure you zoom in to get the close ups of his face as we might need it during broadcasting. Chris, see if you can find his wife on the pitch".

Sounds legit.

Zooming in on the faces of the Danish players that are standing in a circle around Eriksen, to film every reaction. Zooming in on his wife on the pitch. It takes a special type of cnut to do so. So yeah, i easily blame every cnut behind the camera, fully aware of the situation and that the player might already be dead. The full responsibility lies with the cnuts at UEFA that are in charge of the broadcast, for not switching to a completely different camera, though it doesn't absolve the people behind the camera for actively zooming in and out of the situation looking for content, nor does it absolve companies around the world for not having the common sense to instantly cut when they noticed UEFA were broadcasting everything.

I don't blame the camera operators. Their job is to record events as they unfold and if events had been different last night then their record would be invaluable in any inquest as it would provide a definate timeline of events.

The director however should have cut away to a static shot but told camera crews to record everything.

Filming and photography have provided incontrovertible evidence in previous sporting incidents such as Heysel, Hillsborough, Bradford and this evidence has been vital in providing answers to families in the face of organisations pushing their own agenda to protect their reputation.

At a totally different level Man Uniteds Womens team had a match abandoned because an opposition player was in distress and there was not adequate medical resources available. If god forbid that had happened last night we would depend on the recorded images to investigate it and get justice.

So please don't target camera operators with your anger. They were doing their job, it's the Director that wasn't doing the right thing.

 

[UncleBob]

I don't blame the camera operators. Their job is to record events as they unfold and if events had been different last night then their record would be invaluable in any inquest as it would provide a definate timeline of events.

The director however should have cut away to a static shot but told camera crews to record everything.

Filming and photography have provided incontrovertible evidence in previous sporting incidents such as Heysel, Hillsborough, Bradford and this evidence has been vital in providing answers to families in the face of organisations pushing their own agenda to protect their reputation.

At a totally different level Man Uniteds Womens team had a match abandoned because an opposition player was in distress and there was not adequate medical resources available. If god forbid that had happened last night we would depend on the recorded images to investigate it and get justice.

So please don't target camera operators with your anger. They were doing their job, it's the Director that wasn't doing the right thing.

By actively zooming in and out to capture the reactions of the danish players, zooming in on Eriksens wife, zooming in on an unconcious Eriksen? Nope.

There's a vast amount of fixed cameras capturing everything.

 

[Acole9]

I actually saw someone on twitter blame it on the vaccine... unbelievable how stupid some people are. Apparently Eriksen hasn't even had the vaccine yet.

 

[choccy77]

I actually saw someone on twitter blame it on the vaccine... unbelievable how stupid some people are. Apparently Eriksen hasn't even had the vaccine yet.

Yeah that was also doing the rounds yesterday also.

It's really scary that a professional sportsman who has regular health checks can still suffer a cardiac arrest, makes it more scary for us non professionals.

 

[horsechoker]

I actually saw someone on twitter blame it on the vaccine... unbelievable how stupid some people are. Apparently Eriksen hasn't even had the vaccine yet.

I saw that too

People will be blaming the vaccine on tripping over their shoe laces next.

 

[The Firestarter]

I actually saw someone on twitter blame it on the vaccine... unbelievable how stupid some people are. Apparently Eriksen hasn't even had the vaccine yet.

More interesting is if he has went through covid.

 

[Wednesday at Stoke]

I actually saw someone on twitter blame it on the vaccine... unbelievable how stupid some people are. Apparently Eriksen hasn't even had the vaccine yet.

It doesn't help that the Daily Mail came out with an article linking mRNA vaccines to heart palpitations this week.

 

[TrustInOle]

Could have been but in that case the physios and team staff should have started CPR instead of getting him in the recovery position. The medics and defib should have been called for immediately too.

Anyway it's a stressful situation and the main thing is it seems to have ended well. As I say it's about learning. There's absolutely no reason they can't have medics on each side of the pitch and there should be more than one defib available and accessible. If each team had one and there were a couple at opposite ends of the pitch valuable time could be saved providing the individuals involved recognise that is what's needed and are proactive in getting it, even as a precaution.

Completley agree with the bolded part. From whats been said, it sounds like the on scene medics managed to intervene in time and save his life and should be congratulated, but for future instances it would surely make sense to look at what still can be improved as each case can be different and having access to medical help, even within seconds, can be paramount. Regardless of how well informed and organised the on site medical staff were and are, we can always learn more.

 

[Dansk]

UEFA being ridiculous once again. Denmark were given two choices last night: finish the match now, or play tomorrow at noon. Why at noon? Why not, say, at 19.30, which fits perfectly between the two games that kick off at 18.00 and 21.00? Why did it have to be at noon the following day? Finland and Denmark don't have their next games until Wednesday and Thursday. Given the uncertainty of Eriksen's condition at the time that the team had to make the decision, how the feck are they expected to decide on the spot if they can play tomorrow at noon?

Considering the logistics of having to go home, probably barely sleep, then play again so soon, of course they chose to just finish the match the same evening. The alternative would have been even worse. And so, emotionally shaken and with their minds barely in the game, they lost a match that they were massively favored to win. While Eriksen's well-being is far more important than the result of a football match, there was absolutely no need for UEFA to rush it like this and further ruin the tournament for a team that has already lost its key player.

UEFA have offered a 48-hour window for COVID-related postponements, but apparently a player suffering a heart attack on the pitch and nearly fecking dying in front of his teammates deserves less than 24 hours. Absolutely idiotic. UEFA with yet another senseless decision that fecks things up for no conceivable reason. This kind of heartless incompetence is the reason that the football world is increasingly toying with the idea of breaking away from UEFA, and if the ESL had been attempted with more tact and forethought, I wish it had succeeded.

 

[golden_blunder]

Players have ECGs as standard during medicals and have for years

ECGs are a bit basic though. If I was running a high level club spending millions on players I’d want echocardiograms and cardiac mri done

in fact every player should have these through their club once a year. Especially big clubs, no excuse

 

[Nick7]

ECGs are a bit basic though. If I was running a high level club spending millions on players I’d want echocardiograms and cardiac mri done

in fact every player should have these through their club once a year. Especially big clubs, no excuse

I was reading it’s a tough decision because if they do find HOCM it means they’d have to recommend the player stops playing team sports even if the vast majority have no issues.

 

[golden_blunder]

I was reading it’s a tough decision because if they do find HOCM it means they’d have to recommend the player stops playing team sports even if the vast majority have no issues.

So they’d rather bury their heads in the sand? At least if the players know they can seek advice and make a decision on their career and their lives

 

[Nick7]

So they’d rather bury their heads in the sand? At least if the players know they can seek advice and make a decision on their career and their lives

I absolutely agree. Just sharing what I read yesterday.

 

[NICanRed]

It really does boggle the mind.

Obviously his heart wasn't beating spontaneously for 78 minutes but his oxygenation and circulation would have been maintained by CPR. Not perfect - but done well it can keep the vital organs "alive" indefinitely.

 

[golden_blunder]

I absolutely agree. Just sharing what I read yesterday.

Oh yeah, sorry not having a go at you.

as someone who’s got heart issues I’m amazed at how little attention they get from pro sports

 

[Nick7]

Oh yeah, sorry not having a go at you.

as someone who’s got heart issues I’m amazed at how little attention they get from pro sports

Costs and benefits for the player too, I guess. Having to retire though there’s a good chance it won’t affect you vs the chance of what happened yesterday.

 

[Ueanuwug]

UEFA being ridiculous once again. Denmark were given two choices last night: finish the match now, or play tomorrow at noon. Why at noon? Why not, say, at 19.30, which fits perfectly between the two games that kick off at 18.00 and 21.00? Why did it have to be at noon the following day? Finland and Denmark don't have their next games until Wednesday and Thursday. Given the uncertainty of Eriksen's condition at the time that the team had to make the decision, how the feck are they expected to decide on the spot if they can play tomorrow at noon?

Considering the logistics of having to go home, probably barely sleep, then play again so soon, of course they chose to just finish the match the same evening. The alternative would have been even worse. And so, emotionally shaken and with their minds barely in the game, they lost a match that they were massively favored to win. While Eriksen's well-being is far more important than the result of a football match, there was absolutely no need for UEFA to rush it like this and further ruin the tournament for a team that has already lost its key player.

UEFA have offered a 48-hour window for COVID-related postponements, but apparently a player suffering a heart attack on the pitch and nearly fecking dying in front of his teammates deserves less than 24 hours. Absolutely idiotic. UEFA with yet another senseless decision that fecks things up for no conceivable reason. This kind of heartless incompetence is the reason that the football world is increasingly toying with the idea of breaking away from UEFA, and if the ESL had been attempted with more tact and forethought, I wish it had succeeded.

Reminds me on the attack on the Dortmund team us in the 2017 CL season. Dortmund had to play the game the next day. UEFA is ridiculous in that regard and has zero plan B for these events.

 

[EliotTheRed]

per chance, have you had the Pfizer vaccine? I read there’s a small chance that that can cause inflammation of the heart.

I have, although the ‘episode’ I’ll call it happened late March, before I had my jab.

 

[Rektsanwalt]

An ECG showed I’d had a heart attack a few months ago, but luckily turned out only to be inflammation of the heart. Haven’t had a proper follow up consultation with the cardiologist yet but they think it was caused by a virus, so it could be an underlying condition in his case or something as ‘simple’ as a virus, yes.

Highly recommend you getting this checked soon. Myokarditis and its longterm problems can be extremely dangerous.

 

[RedDevilzFox]

I wonder how many times players play thru discomfort and not feeling 'well' unsure if it's a serious event during the games. Until it escalates and you hit the pitch face first.

 

[That'sHernandez]

ECGs are a bit basic though. If I was running a high level club spending millions on players I’d want echocardiograms and cardiac mri done

in fact every player should have these through their club once a year. Especially big clubs, no excuse

I am sure they do them because I have seen the medical records (from a Spurs medical) of a player who had a heart attack, and a heart defect/condition was detected

 

[golden_blunder]

I am sure they do them because I have seen the medical records (from a Spurs medical) of a player who had a heart attack, and a heart defect/condition was detected

Ok well that’s reassuring to hear!

 

[Hester_manc]

UEFA being ridiculous once again. Denmark were given two choices last night: finish the match now, or play tomorrow at noon. Why at noon? Why not, say, at 19.30, which fits perfectly between the two games that kick off at 18.00 and 21.00? Why did it have to be at noon the following day? Finland and Denmark don't have their next games until Wednesday and Thursday. Given the uncertainty of Eriksen's condition at the time that the team had to make the decision, how the feck are they expected to decide on the spot if they can play tomorrow at noon?

Considering the logistics of having to go home, probably barely sleep, then play again so soon, of course they chose to just finish the match the same evening. The alternative would have been even worse. And so, emotionally shaken and with their minds barely in the game, they lost a match that they were massively favored to win. While Eriksen's well-being is far more important than the result of a football match, there was absolutely no need for UEFA to rush it like this and further ruin the tournament for a team that has already lost its key player.

UEFA have offered a 48-hour window for COVID-related postponements, but apparently a player suffering a heart attack on the pitch and nearly fecking dying in front of his teammates deserves less than 24 hours. Absolutely idiotic. UEFA with yet another senseless decision that fecks things up for no conceivable reason. This kind of heartless incompetence is the reason that the football world is increasingly toying with the idea of breaking away from UEFA, and if the ESL had been attempted with more tact and forethought, I wish it had succeeded.

Uefa preaches "fair play", but can not practice it itself.

 

[jem]

I saw that too

People will be blaming the vaccine on tripping over their shoe laces next.

I was very disappointed to see Craig Forrest, who I usually like as a pundit, float that idea yesterday. Very irresponsible, in my opinion.

 

[EliotTheRed]

Highly recommend you getting this checked soon. Myokarditis and its longterm problems can be extremely dangerous.

I’ve got my telephone consultation at the end of the month - I have so many questions!

 

[choccy77]

ECGs are a bit basic though. If I was running a high level club spending millions on players I’d want echocardiograms and cardiac mri done

in fact every player should have these through their club once a year. Especially big clubs, no excuse

You should see what the pre draft NHL players have to go through in order to qualify, it's incredible what they test and put them through.

I doubt Pro footballers have anywhere near this type of testing.

And to think players in the 1980s and beyond used to have steak and chips and alcohol plus fags pre match

 

[UncleBob]

UEFA being ridiculous once again. Denmark were given two choices last night: finish the match now, or play tomorrow at noon. Why at noon? Why not, say, at 19.30, which fits perfectly between the two games that kick off at 18.00 and 21.00? Why did it have to be at noon the following day? Finland and Denmark don't have their next games until Wednesday and Thursday. Given the uncertainty of Eriksen's condition at the time that the team had to make the decision, how the feck are they expected to decide on the spot if they can play tomorrow at noon?

Considering the logistics of having to go home, probably barely sleep, then play again so soon, of course they chose to just finish the match the same evening. The alternative would have been even worse. And so, emotionally shaken and with their minds barely in the game, they lost a match that they were massively favored to win. While Eriksen's well-being is far more important than the result of a football match, there was absolutely no need for UEFA to rush it like this and further ruin the tournament for a team that has already lost its key player.

UEFA have offered a 48-hour window for COVID-related postponements, but apparently a player suffering a heart attack on the pitch and nearly fecking dying in front of his teammates deserves less than 24 hours. Absolutely idiotic. UEFA with yet another senseless decision that fecks things up for no conceivable reason. This kind of heartless incompetence is the reason that the football world is increasingly toying with the idea of breaking away from UEFA, and if the ESL had been attempted with more tact and forethought, I wish it had succeeded.

Apparently there was a third option, forfeit the match for a 3 goal loss.

 

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[Ainu]

Great to see, looks like his recovery is going as well as anyone could've hoped in that situation.

 

[The Firestarter]

Has there been any update on what caused this? From the actual physicians.

 

[golden_blunder]

Has there been any update on what caused this? From the actual physicians.

I guess he will have a barrage of tests still to do

not easy to pinpoint why a seemingly fit person has a cardiac arrest for no reason

 

[The Firestarter]

I guess he will have a barrage of tests still to do

not easy to pinpoint why a seemingly fit person has a cardiac arrest for no reason

Fecking scary thing to think about...

 

[Scarlett Dracarys]

Fecking scary thing to think about...

Him not being able to ever play again might hit him the hardest.

 

[The Firestarter]

Him not being able to ever play again might hit him the hardest.

My point was in general, something like this happening out of the blue. Dust in the wind and all that.