Sancho is an attacking player with some of the best stats ever seen in the Bundesliga, a player with Rice's skillset shouldn't cost half of that.
We'll see how determined we are as a club, and whether Lingard is offered in part exchange, or given a new contract at United....
Lingard isn't gonna be worth much with his contract situation. He's 5 months away from signing a pre-contract with another club. I'd be surprised if we get 15m for him, unless we extend his contract.
The thought of this has ruined my day.
I like Rice. But the potential fees are madness. If he went for £100m. Only 5 players in the history of the game would have gone for more. None since Covid.
Yep however the club still won't be able to play Lingard until next season regardless if he signs a pre-contract with another club in January.
Which is why he won’t go for that. People need to think logically. WH obviously want to scare people off but realistically if he said he wanted to go a deal would be done for a more realistic price
Once again, that’s exactly what Zaha did and Palace had no interest in being nice, same with Sancho last season and Kane this.
Zaha was critical to palace, no way anyone was paying 70m or whatever the rumoured fee was. Again if he’d kicked up a huge fuss and submitted a transfer request they would have had to deal at a realistic price. You don’t want to keep a player who desperately wants out.
We’ll see on that, he’ll go nowhere for me because no-one will pay the minimum 70m WHU would demand.
I haven't seen £90m quoted. that is insane but still no idea why it's in your interest...
Interesting that you tell me what my question is...
I explained it. If we spend more on one player, there will be less funds available for other positions.
Put the joint down man
Never!Put the joint down man
Didn’t see this one. You think JL plus £75m will be required?
But Rice is likely to cost 2x as much...
This Summer, with England going to the semis and what all that entails with the regular English player tax, I don’t see any chance of WHU doing any deal for their captain unless it’s a “almost too good to be true deal”, which I’d imagine is around 75m quid all in.
So that’s Lingard plus £40m right?
They've turned down pretty big offers from Chelsea previously haven't they? He hasn't gotten any cheaper since
Lingard can sign for free in 6 months, if we get 15m for him we’ve done well.So that’s Lingard plus £40m right?
Sancho wanted to leave last year and it didn’t happen because the price wasn’t realistic. So it’s also depending on the club not just the player.
Camavinga is potentially on a different level to Rice Fred and McT if it all comes together for him and he can stay fit and it sounds like he’ll cost less than half. Play the long game
Dortmund knew what a position they held last year, what was the point of “doing a deal” then when they knew they could keep him for another season and get a similar price this Summer.
I’m not saying he won’t play.
And why can’t the owner tell him to stay unless if a club is paying what they want and Rice has no choice but to respect his contract?
This really means nothing when you think of their roles though - I'd assume being in a worse team actually probably helps some of his defensive stats as they are much more defensive and structured than United. McT is probably the easiest upgrade in the starting XI and, even then, it's hard unless you are going to spend big. Same goes for Fred - who is actually playing really well for Brasil right now for what it's worth. It's easy for us to say x,y or z is better but are they actually? Unless you're landing a really top name, they probably aren't going to upgrade McFred (who I am not a fan of as a partnership just FYI) and I really don't think Rice is at the level we would expect if paying anywhere the near the quoted price.
We are, though there haven't really been any developments recently.
We were. In was even reported he was asking Shaw & maguire what life is like at United,
Just like Sancho and Zaha, and Harry Kane this Summer, and Harry Maguire after the WC.
I can only see half of europe chasing 1 of them.
It’s because I want us to have a midfield that can control and dominate games on the ball, and he’s simply not that player.
I have a nagging feeling Rice has a very high ceiling and we will start to see his game expand as he matures. Hopefully he doesn’t do a kane and keep signing deals if he’s actually interested in playing CL at some point. I wouldn’t be going near him for 80 but 50/60 and Jesse? It gives us tactical flexibility and the opportunity to develop an England stalwart throughout his career. I’d be ok with that. The current prices are completely off though. We could buy someone with as high of a ceiling from abroad for less than £40 million minus whatever we get from Jesse. It just depends on the scouting. If the data guys think a Rice is what the team is missing long term (and also from a leadership/longevity standpoint) then I’m more than happy to trust in the process these days.
