Rashford is going ahead with surgery and could be out until October

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You sure he won't be aiming to be back for the International games?

He sure looooves "playing" for England.
One should know his priorities.
That would actually be a good thing if you think about it.

Much better he do his 'pre-season' in a meaningless England friendly rather than a competitive United game.
 

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Why didn't England's manager chose him in the first place? He should have told the lad that he will barely play in his condition and allowed him to do his surgery during summer
 

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Rather annoying from a United perspective that he didn't just get the surgery done over the off season instead of going to the Euro's. More so as he wasn't even a key player in it.

Long term, its best to get it out of the way though, and hopefully he comes back better without the ongoing niggle.
 

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Utterly infuriating and ridiculous that he went to the Euros for about 67 seconds of playing time.

He should have has this surgery months ago.
Not if he scored his penalty and lifted the trophy. Hindsight helps.
 

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Not if he scored his penalty and lifted the trophy. Hindsight helps.
In hindsight, with his form in last few weeks, particularly at the Europa final, do you think he deserve to start?

If his job was to score penalty, then in hindsight, should Lingard be selected and played during ET? A better person in unlocking defence?

In hindsight, should Henderson stayed around to be used in penalty kick?

The players put their trust and faith in Southgate, it was the manager that fail them, and the country.
 

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In hindsight, with his form in last few weeks, particularly at the Europa final, do you think he deserve to start?

If his job was to score penalty, then in hindsight, should Lingard be selected and played during ET? A better person in unlocking defence?

In hindsight, should Henderson stayed around to be used in penalty kick?

The players put their trust and faith in Southgate, it was the manager that fail them, and the country.
Sorry not sure how any of that relates to what I said.
 

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Glad to see this happening, finally. We have talent up front, but there will be room for a healthy Rashford upon his return.
 

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Do you know why?
The article says it because the surgeon is on holidays if you believe that.
To believe that we must believe that there’s only one surgeon in the world we can trust to do the op. It is shoulder surgery after all-easy as complicated as brain surgery.
Also there was no way in the world we could of organised the dates in advance to complicated.
Also if there is only one surgeon in the world we trust to do this op then there no way Manchester Utd would have the financial power to convince him to do one surgery.
 

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Rashford going to the Euros was a total waste of his time. He hardly played any minutes and his penalty miss was arguable the turning point in the shootout. He should have withdrawn to get surgery done on his shoulder.
 

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Why didn't England's manager chose him in the first place? He should have told the lad that he will barely play in his condition and allowed him to do his surgery during summer
Southgate brought Rashford because he had the Final's penalty shootout in mind already. Oops...
 

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The article says it because the surgeon is on holidays if you believe that.
To believe that we must believe that there’s only one surgeon in the world we can trust to do the op. It is shoulder surgery after all-easy as complicated as brain surgery.
Also there was no way in the world we could of organised the dates in advance to complicated.
Also if there is only one surgeon in the world we trust to do this op then there no way Manchester Utd would have the financial power to convince him to do one surgery.
So you don't know? Good, then stop bleating about it. We are, as of right now, not privy as to they whys of this, so maybe rise above trying to find a way to blame Rashford for it. You're winding yourself up for no reason, and it leads nowhere.
 

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I thought he would be going in for Ankle surgery, I may have confused the two. Always thought his ankle was the bigger problem.
If you read back through the thread you'll see he is going in for shoulder surgery, but they will probably look at the ankle at the same time as he couldn't get a boot on towards the end of the season and his ankle ballooned in the build up to the Europa League final.
 

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So you don't know? Good, then stop bleating about it. We are, as of right now, not privy as to they whys of this, so maybe rise above trying to find a way to blame Rashford for it. You're winding yourself up for no reason, and it leads nowhere.
So I shouldn’t comment on something that the BBC and the telegraph have reported because I don’t know everything other than what they have reported huh?! Going by that reasoning we should shutdown the cafe altogether because none of us will ever know 100% of that facts about any story.

I’ll admit your prob right with your second part though, I am getting a bit too invested in something that’s not that big a deal and I ain’t going to change it regardless.
 

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Really hope he'd come back to his old form. All the best with the surgery, love the lad.
 

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So you don't know? Good, then stop bleating about it. We are, as of right now, not privy as to they whys of this, so maybe rise above trying to find a way to blame Rashford for it. You're winding yourself up for no reason, and it leads nowhere.
Imagine Rashford being out for an extended period and we actually won the Premier League title. People will claim he's been holding us back all these years... :nervous:
 

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Remember how Pogba was called selfish for having surgery during the season and he could have waited till season ended but, was only thinking of himself. Now Rashford waits so he can finish the season and play for his country and people are unhappy with that. There is no winning with the fanbase, any choice that was made would have rubbed some part of the base the wrong way.

Hope for surgery to go well and a fast recovery with no more issues down the road for him.
 

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Remember how Pogba was called selfish for having surgery during the season and he could have waited till season ended but, was only thinking of himself. Now Rashford waits so he can finish the season and play for his country and people are unhappy with that. There is no winning with the fanbase, any choice that was made would have rubbed some part of the base the wrong way.

Hope for surgery to go well and a fast recovery with no more issues down the road for him.
Good point.
 

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There’s no other elite sportsman who’d miss an international tournament especially at home. C’mon guys!
 

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Why didn't he do this at the end of the season?
He was probably hoping it would heal naturally.

Most problems with the human body will get better over time. Surgery is usually a last resort because cutting into somebody often requires a longer recovery time.

Speaking personally, I had a tendonitis in my wrist a couple of years ago that I seriously considered going under the scalpel for. But I kept putting off the appointment due to indecision. Thankfully, it ended up getting better on its own... not only just as quick as if a surgeon had dealt with it, but also without the need to remove any tissue.

I know it's not the same kind of injury, but you look at somebody like Ledley King who had bits of cartilage removed from his knees during successive operations. By the end of his career, he had nothing left. Not only did it cut his career short, it also affected his quality of life after he hung up his boots. I wouldn't blame any player for hesitating before making the decision.
 

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He'll probably miss 7 Premier League matches, 2 Champions League matches and 1 League Cup match:

14 Aug - Leeds (H)
22 Aug - Southampton (A)
29 Aug - Wolves (A)
Useless international break
11 Sep - Newcastle (H)
14/15 Sep - CL Matchday 1
19 Sep - West Ham (A)
*possible league cup match which he wouldn't play in anyway
25 Sep - Villa (H)
28/29 Sep - CL Matchday 2
2 Oct - Everton - (H)
Useless international break

After the Everton game, there's a 14 day break for internationals. I assume Rashford will be aiming to be back in contention by the time that's over.

There are no top 6 teams during that run, so it could have been worse.
This schedule was probably one of the reasons to have the surgery now
 

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He won’t come back fully fit until Christmas. Missing pre season is huge nowadays. Maybe he needs time out of the spot light for more reasons than one.
 

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Which begs the question why Southgate let him take the 3rd penalty. Any pain from his shoulder could affect slightly the accuracy of the ball from where he is aiming at, hence explain why it hits the bar.
 

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The Gold medal match is scheduled for the 7th of August, assuming Ivory Coast get that far. If not, he'll be back sooner and our first game is against Leeds on the 14th.
Don't you get a few weeks off after attending a tournament or is it different for the Olympics?
 

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I'm glad its happening, he needs it and its for the best. It's a shame the club and England even put him up for selection for the Euros, but oh well, at least its finally getting done.
 

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Don't you get a few weeks off after attending a tournament or is it different for the Olympics?
I'm not sure, but Solskjaer did say the Olympics would be like a pre-season for Amad, as far as building fitness is concerned. So the more games he plays, the better he'll be prepared for the new season, due to the competitive nature of the tournament in comparison to the games United will play in pre-season, which will be friendlies to build up fitness.
 

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I honestly think this could me massive for the club going forwards. Either Rashford comes back and plays far better or Sancho and Greenwood will keep him out the side.
 

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With how he's been playing lately, it's not a miss at all.

We need him healthy and well rested before we try to get him back on form for us.
 

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I remember we did this a lot under Sir Alex. Would sort out niggling injuries in the first half of the season, then go with a fully fit squad of 22 in the second half of the season.

Good call. The injuries were clearly affecting him in the second half of last season.
 

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Martial will feature more than people think. Probably do well too
 

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Rashford going to the Euros was a total waste of his time. He hardly played any minutes and his penalty miss was arguable the turning point in the shootout. He should have withdrawn to get surgery done on his shoulder.
The turning point was Italy making tactical changes and subs, leading to an equaliser. His miss had nothing to do with it.