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I can’t see him resigning if we kept him - so I feel getting 50-60 million would be good business this summer.
All my years of watching football, I have never seen a midfielder as micro-analysed as Pogba.Why do you think he's been unfairly treated?
This is a given.If Pogba goes, I'm almost certain his replacement won't be as good as Pogba
He is expected to be Kante, Xavi and Yaya Toure all in one.All my years of watching football, I have never seen a midfielder as micro-analysed as Pogba.
A strong possibility that they skew very young and influenced by their peers and the whole ‘image’ thing.I expect to do his job properly, never seen a player so highly rated lose the ball so much in dangerous positions. It's happened for 5 seasons, he's a complete liability and he did it again for France at the euro's.
The cult of Pogba is very odd.
You've answered this in your second paragraph. He'll get paid loads, still get to play CL each season, still be able to splash himself over social media and have photos of him holding trophies in the air all while playing in an easier league. He'll be able to shine without the same scrutiny. He won't be needed to put in the effort of digging in when times get tough because digging in when things get tough is not his game. His game is looking good on the effort of those around him.Talent and loads of money aside, not sure why he would want to go to Paris at 28 and still near his peak. Even Varane who has won it all didn't want to go to play in Ligue one
The reception he got when he first came under the fanfare of #POGBACK was very warm and positive. #POGBACK was the usual Pogba style glitterball affair, selling him as the saviour. The warmth and love faded because it became clear he wasn't committed to the cause. My feeling is that you can, and should still play, or attempt to play like a £90m player regardless of teammates. From the outside his attitude looks poor and that's before we've even mentioned his mouthpiece Riaola. And Riaola is his mouthpiece regardless of what the Pogba fanboys think.I also get the feeling that he really never felt the warmth and love from the United fans, and probably was always made the first scapegoat whenever United loses a match.
Victim of his physical appearance.He is expected to be Kante, Xavi and Yaya Toure all in one.
I fully agree with you. It's unreal how much micro-analysis goes into Pogba.
Where he lost the ball vs Switzerland was not a dangerous position. A 'complete liability' that was Frances best player.I expect to do his job properly, never seen a player so highly rated lose the ball so much in dangerous positions. It's happened for 5 seasons, he's a complete liability and he did it again for France at the euro's.
The cult of Pogba is very odd.
That's because there had never been a top midfielder who is so good in certain aspects of his game and so shit on other aspects of his game. As a creative midfielder Pogba can be immense. He's tall, he's fast, he's blessed with great technique and a great passing range. Talent/physical wise he can shit on every top midfielder of the past 20 years. Then there's the other part of Pogba's game ie his decision making, his workrate, his defensive abilities and the whole circus around the guy which kind of restrains him. These sort of flawed diamonds tend to attract more attention then the typical consistent and boring sort of player. Best was more popular to Charlton and Beckham is more popular to ScholesAll my years of watching football, I have never seen a midfielder as micro-analysed as Pogba.
How? By who? I genuinely struggle with this one.70m euros is good money.
I firmly believe has been unfairly treated.
No he's not, he's none of them let alone being expected to be all three. Being one of them would be enough.He is expected to be Kante, Xavi and Yaya Toure all in one.
He goes for nothing in January. No ones getting milkedPogba for €60m is a bargain for PSG. Milk them. €70m-€80m would be decent business for both parties.
It's really not. He's in his final year and hasn't shown a seasons worth of consistent form in yearsPogba for €60m is a bargain for PSG. Milk them. €70m-€80m would be decent business for both parties.
I wish I’d have been as treated as badly as him in that case. One of the highest paid players at the club, turns up when he feels like it, plays wherever he wants, moans about having to be more disciplined for United as opposed to having more freedom at France. Talks about leaving on a regular basis and the club still keep selecting him to play.70m euros is good money.
I hope PSG formalise their interest. Would be good for us and a player I firmly believe has been unfairly treated. We need the money to reconstruct our midfield. PSG would be signing a hell of a player.
Confident foreign black lad, wears bling jewellery, “lazy” body language on the pitch, loud mouth agent. He was always going to be micro-analysed in this country sadly. There is a section of people who will never get over their idea of what a footballer should be, “good honest lad, passion, blood sweat & tears” and all that.All my years of watching football, I have never seen a midfielder as micro-analysed as Pogba.
That’s part and parcel of playing for United, earning big money and coming in for a big fee. The reason he’s micro analysed is because he’s so inconsistent but everyone knows he has an ability he fails to channel on most days.All my years of watching football, I have never seen a midfielder as micro-analysed as Pogba.
Plays wherever he wants? What?I wish I’d have been as treated as badly as him in that case. One of the highest paid players at the club, turns up when he feels like it, plays wherever he wants, moans about having to be more disciplined for United as opposed to having more freedom at France. Talks about leaving on a regular basis and the club still keep selecting him to play.
I find it hard to justify Pogba being a victim here under and circumstances.
I'm sure his desire when he came to United was to play in a 2 man midfield with Fellaini.I wish I’d have been as treated as badly as him in that case. One of the highest paid players at the club, turns up when he feels like it, plays wherever he wants, moans about having to be more disciplined for United as opposed to having more freedom at France. Talks about leaving on a regular basis and the club still keep selecting him to play.
I find it hard to justify Pogba being a victim here under and circumstances.
What?I'm sure his desire when he came to United was to play in a 2 man midfield with Fellaini.
More nonsense spouted in these last few pages which is very predictable when discussing Pogba.
He’s played every position in midfield in an attempt to get the best out of him, we still don’t know where his best role is.Plays wherever he wants? What?
I agree… and although I want Pogba to stay, but it’s possible that any replacement although not as talented will be more consistent and effective.This is a given.
He came for United's social media presence nowWhat?
He signed for United knowing full well who the playing staff were. He didn’t have to sign.
It’s common knowledge he signed because he was impressed with United’s social media impressions. So he didn’t really care all that much about who he would be playing alongside did he?
If we confirm Sancho and get Varane, that will be top club ambitions. Our signings last summer weren’t shabby either.To be fair to Pogba, he was probably promised a lot of good things when he came back here. The club had just hired Mourinho, signed Zlatan and the team atmosphere was at an all time high after van Gaal's management. Somehow it just didn’t work out here for him. We as fans too were expecting a lot of good things to happen after that summer
His celebrations are shit?I wish people would just be honest & say the real reason they don’t like him... It’s the worst kept secret in football.
Short term for sure, he is a brilliant player. Long term probably notThis is a given.
Are you in capable of googling something? If you’re not clued up on stuff that happened then that’s on you.He came for United's social media presence now
Like I said, more nonsense.
Couldn't care less about Kane. Van Persie, I love the guy, he won us the league, but no I wouldn't call him a club legend for one great season.Would you make that same argument for Kane (if he moves)? Or van persie? Or virtually any top player that moves clubs?
He’s won four Serie A titles plus a World Cup amongst others. If anything his mistake was to join Man Utd, not to leave them.
Just use analogies. The people who still don’t get that he’s like a high-maintenance luxury item bought by a dumbass only interested in the status symbol will never get it.That's because there had never been a top midfielder who is so good in certain aspects of his game and so shit on other aspects of his game. As a creative midfielder Pogba can be immense. He's tall, he's fast, he's blessed with great technique and a great passing range. Talent/physical wise he can shit on every top midfielder of the past 20 years. Then there's the other part of Pogba's game ie his decision making, his workrate, his defensive abilities and the whole circus around the guy which kind of restrains him. These sort of flawed diamonds tend to attract more attention then the typical consistent and boring sort of player. Best was more popular to Charlton and Beckham is more popular to Scholes
Imagine opening your first post on redcafe with that, good griefI don’t like him as a person or a player but it’s a depressing thought to see him leave before the likes of Lingard and Andreas. Who, if we did manage to sell, would probably raise the same amount of cash (combined) as what we’d get for Pogba.
I don't think this is true, he was a club record signing. Bale for example at RM probably got it much worse, Hazard as well. He also has obvious flaws that regularly get highlighted.All my years of watching football, I have never seen a midfielder as micro-analysed as Pogba.
Why stop there? 5,122,407,744,305.00 Iranian Rial105 million euros
Oh the incredible marketability of Luka Modric, that's me convinced.Are you in capable of googling something? If you’re not clued up on stuff that happened then that’s on you.
https://m.republicworld.com/sports-...al-madrid-before-man-united-came-calling.html
Various sources but originally from the Athletic.
Im not saying you should care about RVP or Kane, more that you should understand that when and if a player makes a career choice to move, they’ll almost always prioritise winning things over simply being loyal. Obvious exceptions like Le Tissier but I think in general players would pick trophies over legend status any day of the week.Couldn't care less about Kane. Van Persie, I love the guy, he won us the league, but no I wouldn't call him a club legend for one great season.
Seeing as he walked from Juve for more money, I doubt they call him a legend, but I could be wrong.
There's getting micro-analysed, and then there's the treatment Paul Pogba gets. I don't know how even his biggest detractors would disagree with that. It is always polemic with Paulie.That’s part and parcel of playing for United, earning big money and coming in for a big fee. The reason he’s micro analysed is because he’s so inconsistent but everyone knows he has an ability he fails to channel on most days.