Grealish To City? | City bid £100M

Status
Not open for further replies.

Sayros

Full Member
Joined
Oct 13, 2015
Messages
6,006
Supports
Paris Saint-Germain
Strange one for me. If City have 100m to spend, why are they spending it on Grealish when the gaping hole in the squad is where Kane would slot in.

Surely they could fund the difference, as I don't really see Grealish adding as much to that squad as Kane would.
I have to suspect they will go for Kane or another option at striker as well, it's just Grealish is going to be simpler to get done.
 

Eternitiy

New Member
Joined
Aug 20, 2019
Messages
581
He can be their new David Silva, who was one of the best players I've ever seen. United were highly linked with Silva for several years, only for City to take him. Now it will happen with Grealish. I'm very upset by this.
 

RedDevil@84

Full Member
Joined
Jun 5, 2014
Messages
21,649
Location
USA
Do they improve though or does he just buy the best possible players due to having an unlimited transfer budget and those players look better as they are playing with better players?

I get bored with the love in if I'm honest. I mean, the guy took over the most expensive squad ever assembled and spent £500m in his first two years followed by a further £350m in the following three years and now wants to drop £250 on two players in season 6?
Firstly, I don't love him or City for that matter.
But I think he actually improves players and I have been impressed with Pep that he has modified his strategies to suit the English game. I expected him to struggle and get bored and leave much sooner, to be honest.

But yes, all his strategies hinges on having an unlimited budget (like City) or have ridiculously talented players readily available. Because he likes to keep shuffling players, even the better ones. In his own words, he cannot motivate a player more than 2-3 years to go for trophies. He wants new ones, equally talented (and that means costly). Not all clubs can afford to do that.
 

The_Midfielder

Full Member
Joined
Apr 12, 2006
Messages
3,614
Good for you if you are happy with what we have. I am not and I want a few more quality signings to be able to compete with City for the title. The last time I had to wait 26 years for a title, if we don't plan now I can see a similar wait again as City will continue to dominate because they plan.
All depends on Pep.. If pep leaves I don't think they will be this dominant
 

Cantonaaa!

Full Member
Joined
Dec 21, 2011
Messages
2,074
Location
Omicron Persei 8, Scrotum Oranje.
How? Grealish isn't a household or a recognizable name outside of people who follow the PL.
Why would you assume that? He’s an international player and the PL is the most followed league in football. He’s already a big star in the PL. I know who the stars in La Liga are even though I don’t follow it closely.
And I didn’t mean branding outside of the UK specifically for that matter. They need to attract a shitload of new fans from all over the world including UK and Ireland before they can even begin to dream about having the same sized fanbase as United or Liverpool, which I’m guessing, is one of their long term goals.
Grealish is skilled, good looking, a media favourite, british and perfect for growing their fanbase the way I see it.
I’m sure he’ll be a success on the pitch as well, don’t get me wrong, but as others have pointed out, a striker should be a priority if you’re looking at the team isolated from the brand Man City.
 

Zen86

Full Member
Joined
Jul 1, 2007
Messages
13,914
Location
Sunny Manc
Such an odd move. I actually think this sudden clamour to spend ridiculous money on Grealish and/or Kane is for brand purposes more than anything. Signing up England’s sweethearts for PR is the kind of thing a mickey mouse sports washing franchise would do.
 

LazyRed-Ninja

Dutchman, who could have chosen any tagline.
Joined
Aug 14, 2014
Messages
2,733
Location
Reading a novel in the class of '92
Why would you assume that? He’s an international player and the PL is the most followed league in football. He’s already a big star in the PL. I know who the stars in La Liga are even though I don’t follow it closely.
And I didn’t mean branding outside of the UK specifically for that matter. They need to attract a shitload of new fans from all over the world including UK and Ireland before they can even begin to dream about having the same sized fanbase as United or Liverpool, which I’m guessing, is one of their long term goals.
Grealish is skilled, good looking, a media favourite, british and perfect for growing their fanbase the way I see it.
I’m sure he’ll be a success on the pitch as well, don’t get me wrong, but as others have pointed out, a striker should be a priority if you’re looking at the team isolated from the brand Man City.
He has to deliver now on the big stage. He will now become a player in a title winning team which is a different situation then at Villa. I’d argue the ‘real’ pressure starts as soon as he laces his boots for City, considering they want to challenge for titles and he will have a big price tag on his back as a player who is looked at to help them win titles.
 

Ollie Derbyshire

Full Member
Joined
Aug 5, 2016
Messages
2,242
I don’t see him being that much better, than what they already have, to cause too much concern. I’ve no doubt he’ll do very well but so did the person he’ll replace, whoever that will be.

Who’s he most likely to replace in the first XI? Who ever they drop is a great player in that position already. Sterling, Silva, Foden, Mahrez, Jesus, de Bruyne, Gundogan.... not that much better than these for me.
 

Deusex

New Member
Newbie
Joined
Aug 4, 2021
Messages
5
The bolded one by far. Rashy is far more proven/better than Grealish, Haaland is better than Kane. Sterling is still better than Sancho though.
Grealish is objectively better than "Rashy" by almost any player attribute you want to pick.
 

James Peril

New Member
Joined
Aug 10, 2016
Messages
3,576
He has to deliver now on the big stage. He will now become a player in a title winning team which is a different situation then at Villa. I’d argue the ‘real’ pressure starts as soon as he laces his boots for City, considering they want to challenge for titles and he will have a big price tag on his back as a player who is looked at to help them win titles.
I think you have seen too little of Grealish when you spout such things. He entered the Euros like he was prime Zidane and took on each game like they were friendlies against Walsall, no problem. He also danced around most big teams last season, nutmegging van Dijk and orchestrating the 7-2, a historic match for all non-Liverpool fans.

It will be funny this. Many are downplaying him because he cones from Villa, most will shut up in about 15 minutes of the first game or so. Bruno came from an absolute shit Sporting, it doesn’t matter much does it. What is also 100% certain is that the ones who semi-like him from last season is going to hate his guts now that all those fouls are given to a Man City-player. Football fans ey, not the most objective bunch alive.
 

united_99

Takes pleasure in other people's pain
Joined
Jul 4, 2012
Messages
9,568
Well well … miles behind Beckham in terms of ability/performances, mentality, achievements and looks.

City can have him …
 

Winzaghi

Full Member
Joined
Sep 2, 2019
Messages
318
Supports
Aston Villa
It will be funny this. Many are downplaying him because he cones from Villa, most will shut up in about 15 minutes of the first game or so.
This is one of the most annoying parts of this for me.

He'll also be a regular starter for England from here on out despite struggling to hold a spot for more than a game or 2 at a time.
 

roonster09

Hercule Poirot of the scouting world
Scout
Joined
May 10, 2009
Messages
36,707
This is one of the most annoying parts of this for me.

He'll also be a regular starter for England from here on out despite struggling to hold a spot for more than a game or 2 at a time.
Why? It's actually a dumb argument, that and people who keep saying "people will see how good he is when he sign for City", I mean he was playing in PL for 2 seasons and played against almost all big teams, played in Euros against strong teams but somehow people don't know how to rate him and only will do so when he signs for City.

Apart from Villa forum, there won't be forum where Grealsih will have so many supporters like on caf (and rightly so).
 

Rooney1987

Full Member
Joined
May 15, 2006
Messages
6,243
Location
Bradford
Apparently they have raised half through player sales,
This is the money raised so far, totalling over £50m:

  • Jack Harrison to Leeds - £13m
  • Lukas Nmecha to Wolfsburg - £8.5m
  • Ivan Ilic to Hellas Verona - £7m
  • Angelino to RB Leipzig - £16m
  • Jadon Sancho, Dortmund to Man Utd - £11m gained from sell-on clause
The FA do look at this. This is what Chelsea did and still do. Spend 100s of millions on teenage level talent, then loan 20 of them out a year and then hope some work out and sell. They do with squad players, build up on all these 50mil signings and then sell some off when they want to go. I bet they find a big buyers for Ake and Bernardo Silva, end up with 80 plus mil.
 

Winzaghi

Full Member
Joined
Sep 2, 2019
Messages
318
Supports
Aston Villa
Why? It's actually a dumb argument, that and people who keep saying "people will see how good he is when he sign for City", I mean he was playing in PL for 2 seasons and played against almost all big teams, played in Euros against strong teams but somehow people don't know how to rate him and only will do so when he signs for City.

Apart from Villa forum, there won't be forum where Grealsih will have so many supporters like on caf (and rightly so).
I've just seen it happen so many times mate, it isn't really Grealish specifically. Heck, it even happened in this thread as more people watched him last season. The England part annoys me more. I've always felt that the managers nudge the players towards top 6 clubs by not selecting them as much as they'd like. Seen it with Young and Delph particularly.
 

elnorte

Freaky fly day
Joined
Aug 10, 2009
Messages
5,063
Sad to see City keep getting it right in the transfer market. Come Christmas no one will be talking about the £100 million fee just the sheer quality he's bringing to that team.
 

Pexbo

Winner of the 'I'm not reading that' medal.
Joined
Jun 2, 2009
Messages
68,631
Location
Brizzle
Supports
Big Days
Sad to see City keep getting it right in the transfer market. Come Christmas no one will be talking about the £100 million fee just the sheer quality he's bringing to that team.

Bit premature no?
 

roonster09

Hercule Poirot of the scouting world
Scout
Joined
May 10, 2009
Messages
36,707
I've just seen it happen so many times mate, it isn't really Grealish specifically. Heck, it even happened in this thread as more people watched him last season. The England part annoys me more. I've always felt that the managers nudge the players towards top 6 clubs by not selecting them as much as they'd like. Seen it with Young and Delph particularly.
Even if he signs for City, there will be people who won't be convinced, I mean there are people who still nitpicks Messi's game, this is nothing.

Yeah, now will be interesting to see whether Southgate plays him regularly.
 

acolyte

New Member
Newbie
Joined
Jan 26, 2021
Messages
336
He entered the Euros like he was prime Zidane and took on each game like they were friendlies against Walsall, no problem.
:lol: He did all that in the grand total of 172 minutes he played? Forget Zidane, he must have had a Maradona '86 type impact then.

Many are downplaying him because he cones from Villa, most will shut up in about 15 minutes of the first game or so.
I'm going to expect at least two assists and a defender sent off in the first 15 minutes now, cheers.

In all seriousness, I'm sure he's an excellent player. But it's over the top nonsense like this that makes me relieved he's going to be off the market soon and the circlejerk will slow down for a while.
 

JB7

Full Member
Joined
Jun 18, 2008
Messages
8,847
Firstly, I don't love him or City for that matter.
But I think he actually improves players and I have been impressed with Pep that he has modified his strategies to suit the English game. I expected him to struggle and get bored and leave much sooner, to be honest.

But yes, all his strategies hinges on having an unlimited budget (like City) or have ridiculously talented players readily available. Because he likes to keep shuffling players, even the better ones. In his own words, he cannot motivate a player more than 2-3 years to go for trophies. He wants new ones, equally talented (and that means costly). Not all clubs can afford to do that.
Perfectly reasonable response and I don't disagree. Apologies, there are a lot of Pep fanboys all over the place and even on here who seem to think he's the GOAT and deny his success has anything to do with the unbelievable money available to him.
 

redrobed

New Member
Newbie
Joined
Jan 30, 2021
Messages
624
Utd are more attractive to English players than City. I am 100% convinced that if we were in for him he’d make the move, but can easily see him rejecting the move to City.
English players tend to prioritise the history, tradition, chance of trophies, and values of a club and therefore prefer to come to Utd. However some are just in it for the money and so head to City.

I can guarantee that if we were in for him he’d come to us instead. We can’t let this happen. I will not take it lying down.
 

Gee Male

Full Member
Joined
Apr 10, 2009
Messages
4,312
English players tend to prioritise the history, tradition, chance of trophies, and values of a club and therefore prefer to come to Utd. However some are just in it for the money and so head to City.

I can guarantee that if we were in for him he’d come to us instead. We can’t let this happen. I will not take it lying down.
Em, OK. What's the plan?
 

MUFC OK

New Member
Joined
Oct 14, 2014
Messages
7,216
English players tend to prioritise the history, tradition, chance of trophies, and values of a club and therefore prefer to come to Utd. However some are just in it for the money and so head to City.

I can guarantee that if we were in for him he’d come to us instead. We can’t let this happen. I will not take it lying down.
At £100m it’s not the right deal for us at the moment. If we had sold Pogba we should’ve been all over it. Silver lining is Haaland is on the market next summer and if we have a good season I can see us winning that race.
 

elnorte

Freaky fly day
Joined
Aug 10, 2009
Messages
5,063
Bit premature no?
The signing or how well he plays?

Perhaps I'm wrong but I'm figuring it's near enough a done deal.

In terms of his performances, well it won't be long before we realise that the difference between Sancho and Grealish is a hell of a lot more than £30 million.
 

Gee Male

Full Member
Joined
Apr 10, 2009
Messages
4,312
The signing or how well he plays?

Perhaps I'm wrong but I'm figuring it's near enough a done deal.

In terms of his performances, well it won't be long before we realise that the difference between Sancho and Grealish is a hell of a lot more than £30 million.
What makes you think that?

Do you think Grealish fits City better than Sancho fits United?
 

Volumiza

The alright "V", B-Boy cypher cat
Joined
Jul 13, 2018
Messages
13,538
Location
Somewhere in the middle
The signing or how well he plays?

Perhaps I'm wrong but I'm figuring it's near enough a done deal.

In terms of his performances, well it won't be long before we realise that the difference between Sancho and Grealish is a hell of a lot more than £30 million.
Fecking hell, Sancho hasn’t even kicked a ball for us yet :lol:

What a ray of sunshine you are.
 

AshRK

Full Member
Joined
Apr 23, 2017
Messages
12,178
Location
Canada
I can't believe Villa are accepting a lowball price of just 100M. For all the hype that Grealish has, they could have squeezed a lot more.
Unless of course there are couple of shell companies in Panama the Sheikhs are offering, off the books.
I feel 100M is huge for Grealish. Now Kane for 100 m will be cheap.
 

Trip721

New Member
Newbie
Joined
May 8, 2015
Messages
36
If (or when) he signs with City, how do they still afford Kane as well? It seems unlike City to splash for Kane too, tie up $200 million on two players doesn't seem wise from a business perspective. Over the years, they have spent money, but it's across multiple players. Which brings me to Kane, he is holding out, he either 1) knows City is going to offer up the cash or 2) is getting terrible advice right now.
 

Judas

Open to offers
Joined
Jun 28, 2010
Messages
36,089
Location
Where the grass is greener.
Saying "City got it right" now like they're unearthing a hidden gem is a bit silly isn't it? It's an obvious obvious bit of business for a top club, but even City don't really need him to win the league again.

The one thing Grealish and Kane do add is hunger to win things, because they've won nowt. There was a chance this City team might have been a bit flat at least in the league after winning it, but now they'll have that rocket boost of hunger.
 

amolbhatia50k

Sneaky bum time - Vaccination status: dozed off
Joined
Nov 8, 2002
Messages
95,660
Location
india
The signing or how well he plays?

Perhaps I'm wrong but I'm figuring it's near enough a done deal.

In terms of his performances, well it won't be long before we realise that the difference between Sancho and Grealish is a hell of a lot more than £30 million.
The difference is that they have a great manager and Sancho is just 21.

This is the only place where Grealish is considered to be among the greatest footballers ever, it seems. Also, why on earth would we sign him when we have Bruno??
 

roonster09

Hercule Poirot of the scouting world
Scout
Joined
May 10, 2009
Messages
36,707
By December, caf will finally realize that Grealish is one of the best PL players ever.

By second end, you all will realize he will be among the GOAT candidates. Yes its a joke
 

charlenefan

Far less insightful than the other Charley
Joined
Aug 17, 2005
Messages
33,052
100m for Grealish or just over that for Sancho and Varane? I know which one I'd take
 
Status
Not open for further replies.