Predict the top 6 in order. 2021/22.

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I think we might get a very good title race this year. Top four all have a good chance.
 

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TrustInJanuzaj said:
I work with someone in that industry and frankly as soon as someone puts big money in one direction the odds change.
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What do you call 'big money'? Because anyone betting real big money isn't doing it because they 'don't like' a team.
 

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Leftback99 said:
What do you call 'big money'? Because anyone betting real big money isn't doing it because they 'don't like' a team.
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Can either be a one off big punter or institution (agreed they won’t bet on ‘feelings’), but equally can be a series of smaller bets that come in quickly and the odds need to be adjusted accordingly. Perhaps people piled on Chelsea and Liverpool after a decent end to the season and Utd losing the Europa. I don’t think that’s really a fair reflection of a team overall though.
 

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Klopper76 said:
Where do you think Arsenal will finish?
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Probably 7th or 8th. White and Lokonga are good signings but young. We still have far too much dross in the squad which we just can't get rid of.

Bellerin, Xhaka, Mari, Kolasinac, Torreira, Elneny, Willian and Lacazette would all be gone if we were a serious club.
 

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duffer said:
It's time. One week before the season starts.

1,
2,
3,
4,
5,
6,

Go!

Please don't add a load of qualifiers to your predictions (if club X signed player Y then I think this...).

I just want your predictions of top six given what we all know now.

Once the season starts then no further "predictions" will be eligible for the prize.
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1.United
2.city
3. Chelsea
4. Liverpool
 

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TrustInJanuzaj said:
Can either be a one off big punter or institution (agreed they won’t bet on ‘feelings’), but equally can be a series of smaller bets that come in quickly and the odds need to be adjusted accordingly. Perhaps people piled on Chelsea and Liverpool after a decent end to the season and Utd losing the Europa. I don’t think that’s really a fair reflection of a team overall though.
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What you are saying is you personally believe the price of 9/1 for us to win the league is wrong. Individuals/institutions who bet serious money on these things from their own analysis disagree, otherwise we would see the price come down like you say.
 

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Leftback99 said:
What you are saying is you personally believe the price of 9/1 for us to win the league is wrong. Individuals/institutions who bet serious money on these things from their own analysis disagree, otherwise we would see the price come down like you say.
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We have been tipped out the champions league the last two seasons btw!
 

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1. Manchester City
2. Chelsea
3. Manchester United
4. Liverpool
5. Leicester
6. Aston Villa
 

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georgipep said:
Everything about settings odds is about perception. There is no perfect data to base decision on. But that's not liking or disliking a team.
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Sure but in football the odds will have been heavily impacted by the end of last season. The positivity surrounding Chelsea winning big ears, Liverpool going on a good run into the top four, Utd failing to get over the line in the Europa. That doesn’t change the fact we have been pretty consistent the last two seasons and finished above both last season while doing business this summer which has been the envy of everyone. How can we be less fancied than last campaign based on that evidence? Football fans are typically reactionary which is why for long term punters there’s money to be made!
 

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Leftback99 said:
What you are saying is you personally believe the price of 9/1 for us to win the league is wrong. Individuals/institutions who bet serious money on these things from their own analysis disagree, otherwise we would see the price come down like you say.
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No serious bets are placed on 9/1 shots.
 

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Tottenham/Leicester

Maybe with Everton/Leeds as a sleeper hit to take 4th-6th
 

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On the whole, looks like we’re nailed on a familiar fifth! I struggle to see why so many have Spurs anywhere on their lists! They are a mess.
 

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mark clatternburg said:
On the whole, looks like we’re nailed on a familiar fifth! I struggle to see why so many have Spurs anywhere on their lists! They are a mess.
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I think Spurs will finish 6th mainly because they have Kane and Son who will always score goals, if they can stop conceding so many they'll do ok, won't win anything but do ok.
 

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Leftback99 said:
There would be if the serious bettors thought it was wrong.
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That’s not how it works though. It’s a long term bet that means it isn’t appealing and most serious bettors would wait until the window is shut and assess how teams are playing before ploughing in.
If we win our first 4 games we wouldn’t be 9/1. That doesn’t mean a lot of serious money went on us or we suddenly proved ourselves to be title contenders because we beat Leeds and Southampton.
 

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United or Chelsea
Liverpool
Spurs
Leceister, Arsenal, maybe Villa if the new singings bed in well
 

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City
Chelsea
United
Liverpool
Leicester
Arsenal

I’m weary of Liverpool though, they‘ll be a different team with VVD back and the new CB they signed a lot of people (myself included) are ruling them out. They’ll probably enjoy the spotlight being on City/Chelsea.

I think Spurs will struggle, I don’t think Nuno is a great coach and they have the Kane issue to deal with.
 

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cyberman said:
That’s not how it works though. It’s a long term bet that means it isn’t appealing and most serious bettors would wait until the window is shut and assess how teams are playing before ploughing in.
If we win our first 4 games we wouldn’t be 9/1. That doesn’t mean a lot of serious money went on us or we suddenly proved ourselves to be title contenders because we beat Leeds and Southampton.
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You're wrong but I'm not derailing the thread any more.
 

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1. United
2. City
3. Chelsea
4. Liverpool
5. Spurs
6. Leicester

Bonus: Villa will finish above Arsenal
 

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TrustInJanuzaj said:
Sure but in football the odds will have been heavily impacted by the end of last season. The positivity surrounding Chelsea winning big ears, Liverpool going on a good run into the top four, Utd failing to get over the line in the Europa. That doesn’t change the fact we have been pretty consistent the last two seasons and finished above both last season while doing business this summer which has been the envy of everyone. How can we be less fancied than last campaign based on that evidence? Football fans are typically reactionary which is why for long term punters there’s money to be made!
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What does all of that have to do with liking/disliking a team or player?
 

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8 Everton
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