Do you really not understand the concept of credit in the bank. Tuchel just won the champions league but a couple of trophyless years and he will very likely get the sack. Klopp is never getting sacked at Liverpool barring something absolutely unforseen. He broke their 30 year title drought and won a champions league. As for Pep who is considered the best active manager in the world, I doubt city would sack him either but he's already said he's leaving in a couple years. He also just won the league last year!
Luckhurst: United prepared to move for a holding midfielder in January
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I think we need both especially in the event Pogba is leaving. Rice for me would be class under Solskjaer's management and perhaps a switch to 4-3-3 or he can play in a pivot. Rice has league proven experience won't likely need any 'bedding' in process.
This. Rice replaces Matic.
We need a ball playing midfielder to replace Carrick or possibly even Pogba if he leaves.
It's not one or the other.
Obviously not. He'd cost even more than Rice and hasn't ever really had strong links so people are realistic.
so bizarreWell since you said “read better” perhaps you should too, since I said that you’re the only other “poster” who has said it on these boards. Am I drawing an incorrect conclusion from that? Perhaps, but that’s my ‘job’. You’d be surprised how many banned posters make a return and get caught out by posting the same way. So less of the attitude please
Our team was good enough to win the PL title in 2007 but we lost to Kaka and Milan in the CL semi-final. Had we had a decent DM we would have handled them and beaten Liverpool in the final. We then bought Owen Hargreaves who played for 1 season and won us the CL. He then got injured and, though we reached 2 finals in the next 3 years, we never won the CL again.
We have had the greatest transfer window ever but not buying a DM in this window is going to turn out to be a similar mistake. United under SAF had a blind spot when it comes to DMs and it cost us trophies. Under Ole we still do and, like in the past, it will cost us trophies.
We have had the greatest transfer window ever but not buying a DM in this window is going to turn out to be a similar mistake. United under SAF had a blind spot when it comes to DMs and it cost us trophies. Under Ole we still do and, like in the past, it will cost us trophies.
I do understand the concept of credit in the bank, hence my question.
Ole should have plenty of credit in the bank, but instead all he gets is criticism.
Anyway, that's enough with this argument. If you want to be miserable and angry all of the time then fine, I'm happy with Ole, happy with how the squad is shaping up and believe we're progressing in the right direction.
Back on the subject of this thread, and as I have said before, let's wait until next season and offer £50m plus Lingard for Rice
Finally someone sees it too. Ive been saying this all along.
Hargreaves played on the right for us in the final. Cool story though.
Lingard is out of contact next summer, so that's not gonna happen. I can't understand how we haven't sold him.
Ole's credit in the bank meant after getting knocked out in the cl group stages and losing the europa final in embarrassing circumstances he got a new 3 year contract.
Don't project your fantasies on to me. I'm not miserable and angry all the time if i happen to think Ole is not good enough to have us win big trophies.
I'm certainly not writing off this season. It is the season that will prove one side right or wrong on Ole imo.
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Rice can play in the pivot but we still need the elite ball player. If you look around in teams that win big trophies, they have someone who is very good at passing.
Real - Casemeiro holds, Kroos passes
Liverpool / City - They are lucky to have both in 1 player Fabinho and Rodri
Chelsea - Kante is the ball winner and Jorginho the passer.
I know you said other poster, I take that as you saying me and also one other person, as though me and that person are saying the same thing and my point still stands.
You said "You’re only the 2nd poster to refer to carrick as the crab"
No I'm not. I didn't call him that at all, I simply pointed out other people said it at the time and I feel its pretty clear that I was using that as an example of people being unfair, not having a go at anyone.
Now, if you're saying that only one person EVER actually called him that and I'm the only other person to reference that term then that's just wrong. I know because I caught. A lot of flack for defending him about it at the time. If you Google Michael carrick crab you'll get loads of results.
I've literally done nothing wrong, you misquoted me and said I had said something I hadn't and when I pointed it out you've had a go at my attitude and had a little dig about me having multiple accounts with zero basis. I've no doubt that happens but it's a bit shit to just level it at me when you're the one who has misunderstood what I was saying.
Maybe I was a bit defensive but I've been a member on this site for a while, I don't spam, troll or really post all that much, I've weighed in and defended a player only to then have an admin on the site to say I'm doing the opposite and have a pop at me.
I never actually said what I've quoted you telling me I said. I know it's a long reply but I feel like I've been taken really wrong on this one and I'm just trying to be clear.
Jesus the absolute state of this post. You’re practically threatening the poster for absolutely nothing.
Keyboard warrior mate. Full of his own self importance. I’d just ignore them.
All the google articles are other sites. I was referring specifically to Redcafe.
But look I’m prepared to take your word for it and move on. Apologies.
I hope you realise that sometimes we have to call out what we see; sometimes wrongly and sometimes right, but always for the good of the boards. Generally people get banned because they are disruptive or causing problems on the board so we do it for the good of the majority
Mind your own business
Glad you see how foolish it sounds.
He played as DM most of the year. In the final he played on the right of a 3 in midfield in a lopsided 4-3-3 (Carrick and Scholes were the other CMs) so Ronaldo could stay up on the left to take advantage of Essien roaming.
cool comeback, though,
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Plus did he play the whole season at RM? Thr way he made it sound was that he was always a winger for us than a midfielder.
You said we reached semis in 2007, and finals in 2009 and 11, but could not win it because we didnt have a DM like Hargreaves. Your point was having Hargreaves in the final in 2008 was the difference("won us the CL"), which we couldnt in the other finals, because we didnt have a DM like Hargreaves.
Therefore I pointed out Hargreaves didnt even play as a DM in the final. Where Hargreaves played the rest of the year is irrelevant, as we reached the finals in other years w/o a dedicated DM like Hargreaves anyway. And it wasnt Hargreaves at DM that made the difference in the finals.
So where Hargreaves played for us mostly, or whether he would have helped us in the other finals is not relevant.
No. He made the point that having Hargreaves as the DM was the difference between winning the trophy in 08, and losing in finals in 09 and 11, and I pointed out Hargreaves didnt even play as a DM in the finals in 08. I never said he was always a winger for us.
Or that right back from Palace. He is such a complete talent that its worth spending 50m on him.
I love a good nickname but I can't recall anyone calling Carrick as the crab
definitely was a thing, under appreciated as a player
Wow admin warning threatening me now, to mind my own business
Just grabbing some of the first results on Google and then twitter, there's a ton more out there. It was definitely a thing.... I had many an argument after calling people out for using it. He was often accused of being slow, ponderous and only ever passing sideways or making "safe" passes, hence the "crab". I can't be bothered getting more, I feel I've made my point.
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So it’s either crab-wise Carrick, or Anderson, who is forward thinking but loses the ball much too often. Pick your poison United fans.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thisis...s-better-scott-parker-or-michael-carrick/amp/
"The Crab" I wonder how he would have faired if we had done better in Europe? What u think?
https://therepublikofmancunia.com/stats-carricks-ridiculous-good-run-continues/
Although once having a reputation as something of a ‘crab’, in that all his balls would be played sideways, he’s recently been much more progressive.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.in...ent-run-and-figures-show-it-10185241.html?amp
Carrick has nowhere near enough energy or flair. He strolls about and seems to need a lot of time to pick a decent pass. I'm surprised his nickname isn't The Crab with his liking for sideways passes
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.da...aul-Scholes-Steven-Gerrard-Frank-Lampard.html
had too many idiots on here calling him a crab and a sideways and backwards passer only
https://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/296433
Very much looking forward to the giant crab monster bursting out of Michael Carrick.
https://thebusbybabe.sbnation.com/2014/5/8/5694462/manchester-united-final-game-television-syfy
Then there is the crab, Michael Carrick. Often derided for his 5yrd passes side to side or back into defence
https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thefootballtacticsblog/2012/02/can_scholes_be_the_fulcrum_for.html
https://community.betfair.com/footb...arrick_half_crab_half_man#flvPostId-428774126
Michael Carrick defines the sideways pass. #crab
Michael Carrick is like a crab, he can only move and pass sideways! #championsleaguefinal
35% of Michael Carrick's passes have gone forwards this season - Crab? #MUFC
Thank god michael carrick aint in squad. Because crab footballer ever #england
Is Michael Carrick the new 'Crab'? #onlygoessideways
Michael Carrick - The Crab #MUFC
Michael Carrick even hits his shots sideways #crab
Well I appreciated the reply from you, so nice one for that!Wow admin warning threatening me now, to mind my own business
Fair enough. Although, at no point did I reference this site specifically and neither did you. I try to be careful with my words and felt it was a fairly clear reference to a general narrative.
I was referring to redcafe.net
How am I supposed to know
? If I was referring to a specific site or user, I would have said so. I referenced "our fans", that was all, it was dead high level and generic. I didn't imagine it would cause this much of a stir haha. I don't really have a "home" on a forum though so I may not be used to thinking that way. I tend to flit about various forums and the occasional social media without really getting involved. I'm not meaning to sound like a bellend either by the way so if it comes across like that, my apologies.
I think it was a sarcastic post? Maybe? Haha
No worries
I think that I clarified my point. Regarding golden blunder we agree on some points and we disagree on others. For example I would have had phil Jones kicked out of the club something he disagree upon. However I assure you that he is one of the nicest and fairest admin/mods in here. I can't think of a time when he unfairly banned/infracted meHow am I supposed to know
I'm not meaning to sound like a bellend either by the way so if it comes across like that, my apologies.
Fair enough, think we mistook each other's intention and spoke past each other a bit. No harm done.
Nor should you be able toApologies fella
All good mate
i love happy ending.
Definitely Greenwood on the right, with Ronaldo on the left and Cavani uptop