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Chicharo

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I don't care what Keane says not even kante can defend the midfield by themselves. It's a team sport Pogba and Bruno should be helping out a lot more off the ball. It's always forgotten that Fred himself is shoehorned as a dm. I am not a fan of Fred's, he is erratic and not good enough on the ball but he is also playing in an unbalanced midfield. What happened in midfield against wolves was disgusting to see.
Put Kante in this squad and we win everything.
For crying out loud, Fred cannot make a forward pass that if his teammate is 10 yards away from him
 

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Put Kante in this squad and we win everything.
For crying out loud, Fred cannot make a forward pass that if his teammate is 10 yards away from him
If he plays alongside Pogba in a double pivot we won't.
 

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Help me out, if midfield is generally accepted where you win or lose games, how do you get to 2nd in the league, semi's and finals and unbeaten away if you are only good for a couple of months?
Individual quality elsewhere and a very poor year for other rival teams. Spurs a shambles, Chelsea with Lampard and Liverpool with an injuries crisis.
 

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Fred will prove lot of people wrong this season. I think he will be very good in a 4-3-3 and when he will have more help from Bruno. He makes very straight forward and quick transitions from defence to attack.
Also presses high up the field and wins a lot of balls when opponents are not in a shape to defend. Imagine what changes players like Ronaldo, Bruno, Pogba, Greenwood and Sancho will create from there.

To think that he will be very poor teammate for Ronaldo is also wrong in my opinion. I believe Ronaldo brings more out of him.
He links up well with Pogba. He played awesome tournament with Neymar who trusted him a lot on the ball.

More faith people. He is our player and support him as long he is here. Ole will decide who plays and who not. Do you guys think he would put Fred on field for Manchester United, if he is rubbish?

Easy there, newbie. You're not going to get promoted unless you start including a lot more hyperbole and knee jerk opinions in your posts.
 

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Help me out, if midfield is generally accepted where you win or lose games, how do you get to 2nd in the league, semi's and finals and unbeaten away if you are only good for a couple of months?
You can learn to play around your flaws.

We have fantastic individual quality for instance. Lots of match winners.

They had their moments of being good but had just as many being bad.

Fred for instance was the reason we lost the FA cup semi final. He puts in this suicide performances very often

When he is playing badly it's sets a really bad tone for the game and the mistakes just become constant.

And you make an EL final because we have the best team and squad in it by a country mile don't you think?
 

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Not very good for a defensive-minded player in our team, especially with the makeup of the rest of the midfield.
Yeah, he’s rubbish at that. But he does cover a lot of ground and is pretty effective when you add up what he achieves in a game. My points were these: 1. stats can’t show you how bad he is in certain vital aspects and 2. He’s one of our two best players in his position at the moment (despite his many weaknesses).
 

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He isn't a defensive midfielder. Not exactly his fault he's been asked to be Kante instead of us replacing Matic.
Agreed. But honestly at this point I have no idea what sort of player he is or what the strengths in his game are supposed to be. Let’s not forget that he played as an attacking mid for Shaktar. Which makes no sense when you watch him now. Such a bizarre player and purchase for me.
 

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Individual quality elsewhere and a very poor year for other rival teams. Spurs a shambles, Chelsea with Lampard and Liverpool with an injuries crisis.
Wow.....2 seasons of progress based on how shite the rest of the teams have been. Even Ole doesn't get a mention....
 

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You can learn to play around your flaws.

We have fantastic individual quality for instance. Lots of match winners.

They had their moments of being good but had just as many being bad.

Fred for instance was the reason we lost the FA cup semi final. He puts in this suicide performances very often

When he is playing badly it's sets a really bad tone for the game and the mistakes just become constant.

And you make an EL final because we have the best team and squad in it by a country mile don't you think?
If all that, sack Ole then cause he picks him. In fact, sack the Brazil manager cause he picks him too. Two of the most pressured domestic and international teams, they must want the sack from their dreams jobs playing someone that's suicide performances often cost you games.....? Wow
 

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Fred will prove lot of people wrong this season. I think he will be very good in a 4-3-3 and when he will have more help from Bruno. He makes very straight forward and quick transitions from defence to attack.
Also presses high up the field and wins a lot of balls when opponents are not in a shape to defend. Imagine what changes players like Ronaldo, Bruno, Pogba, Greenwood and Sancho will create from there.

To think that he will be very poor teammate for Ronaldo is also wrong in my opinion. I believe Ronaldo brings more out of him.
He links up well with Pogba. He played awesome tournament with Neymar who trusted him a lot on the ball.

More faith people. He is our player and support him as long he is here. Ole will decide who plays and who not. Do you guys think he would put Fred on field for Manchester United, if he is rubbish?
Now come on Newbie.....enough of that.
 

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The amount of (unfairly) shit he gets here is unreal. He often plays by himself in midfield and we, as a team, have no tactical knowledge on how to play as a team in midfield. There's a reason he's first-choice for Brazil, Pep wanted him, and that he was ace for Shakhtar. Although he needs a little guidance sometimes, he's an incredibly useful player to have.
If all that, sack Ole then cause he picks him. In fact, sack the Brazil manager cause he picks him too. Two of the most pressured domestic and international teams, they must want the sack from their dreams jobs playing someone that's suicide performances often cost you games.....? Wow
The one area that Brazil is weak on paper is midfield. When I think of the best midfielders in the world I haven't thought of a Brazilian since 2007. To be honest I rate their attack not too highly compared with the past players. Also Pep has far from a perfect transfer record and even wanted Sanchez. Playing for Brazil means nout nowadays.
Exactly. If he had more help, his qualities would come out more easily. He is just played out of position with little help. That is not his fault. He still carried us over half season like that.
I don't see why he didn't win player of the season to be honest :drool:
 

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Did people now watch Fred vs Wolves or something? The guy was playing for them! He is so so so bad and there’s no way we will win anything with him starting in midfield. You could sign Messi, Ronaldo, Pele and Maradona in their peak. They couldn’t win the league with Fred behind them.
 

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Did people now watch Fred vs Wolves or something? The guy was playing for them! He is so so so bad and there’s no way we will win anything with him starting in midfield. You could sign Messi, Ronaldo, Pele and Maradona in their peak. They couldn’t win the league with Fred behind them.
I agree. It's all Fred's fault.
 

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I didn’t think Fred had the call up? Hasn’t he been training at Carrington?
 

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I didn’t think Fred had the call up? Hasn’t he been training at Carrington?
And that's why he's being banned. The ban is for players who weren't released by their clubs. It's Brazilian FA going after PL clubs. At least that's what I read.
 
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What a petty move from the Brazilian FA. Between that and their..ahem..handling of the Argentina players...seems like that country's FA is as well run as its government.
 

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Great news, I hope we play VDB in his position and he kills it. He’s such a better player than Fred!
 

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So given that Mcfred is unavailable.for the weekend what are we looking at? Pogba and Matic? Pogba and DVB? DVB and Matic? Or just not bother with central midfield altogether?
 

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Great news, I hope we play VDB in his position and he kills it. He’s such a better player than Fred!
Hasnt really been for United thought to be honest and I don't think Fred is very good at all.

Donny just hasnt been great and it is pure hope that he'd do better than Fred or Scott.
 

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Did people now watch Fred vs Wolves or something? The guy was playing for them! He is so so so bad and there’s no way we will win anything with him starting in midfield. You could sign Messi, Ronaldo, Pele and Maradona in their peak. They couldn’t win the league with Fred behind them.
Worser than Bebe & Kleberson?
 

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Great news, I hope we play VDB in his position and he kills it. He’s such a better player than Fred!
You must be having a laugh if you think VDB will contribute more defensively or press more than Fred.
 

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Excellent, we can play Ronaldo as a false 6.

Flipping the script on Pep for real. Turning that false 9 upside down.
 

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Fred will prove lot of people wrong this season. I think he will be very good in a 4-3-3 and when he will have more help from Bruno. He makes very straight forward and quick transitions from defence to attack.
Also presses high up the field and wins a lot of balls when opponents are not in a shape to defend. Imagine what changes players like Ronaldo, Bruno, Pogba, Greenwood and Sancho will create from there.

To think that he will be very poor teammate for Ronaldo is also wrong in my opinion. I believe Ronaldo brings more out of him.
He links up well with Pogba. He played awesome tournament with Neymar who trusted him a lot on the ball.

More faith people. He is our player and support him as long he is here. Ole will decide who plays and who not. Do you guys think he would put Fred on field for Manchester United, if he is rubbish?
This awesome tournament you mean Copa America? Because Fred was very, very far from an incredible tournament.
 

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What a petty move from the Brazilian FA. Between that and their..ahem..handling of the Argentina players...seems like that country's FA is as well run as its government.
With Argentina they acted poorly by trying to help them and bend the rules, they should've acted sooner and way more energetic.

With regards to Fred is pure pettiness.
 

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Great news, I hope we play VDB in his position and he kills it. He’s such a better player than Fred!
Lets be honest now. No way VDB starts. Its going to be Matic Pogba, we all know it.

Ole will say Matic trained well and deserved a chance whilst VDB has been training and wont give him a chance.
 

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What is situation for other European Brazilian players, E.g . Neymar. is it a case of France not on red list so okay, or will they isolate when going back?
 
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