Solskjær press conference vs West Ham (A)

[SAFMUTD]

Solskjaer asked about midfield and his 'philosophy'
"I’m not here to explain every single detail of how I want my team to play. We want central midfielder who can play. Today’s football is about he’s a good 6, 8, 10 back in the day you had proper midfielders, Roy Keane, Paul Scholes, Bryan Robson. You see players out there who can attack and defend and that’s what we look for, midfielders who are complete and we try to develop that in our midfield.

It's a balance between with how many you commit forward and how you defend because one little mistake and there’s a counter attack towards you.

Overarching philosophy… I don’t sit here and claim and talk... football is a simple game and it's about making good decisions and being in a team.

Sometimes we look too much into the all intricacies and it’s passion, it's desire - who wants to win the ball? Which one of the striker has the desire to get on the end of crosses?

You can talk about all sorts, it looks nice on paper. But when you go out on that pitch, it's who wants to win, that’s one of the big things. You want winners and I think I’m getting there with my team, team players."

He sure loves to talk about "back in the day" stories.

 

[Water Melon]

Shamefully plugging US politics

Nah mate. By accident. Corrected the link. Pep is indeed on a different planet compared to our gaffer, unfortuntely. And their careers reflect that perfectly well.

 

[Zaphod2319]

I am pretty sure that every player on every team wants to win the ball.

 

[Nicoseth]

If you think that's what Ole's telling the players to go out and do, you're incredibly naive.

Same fans have the blinkers well and truly nailed on. Anybody who thinks you can get away with being that simplistic as a coach these days is naive - as you said. Ole is entitled to be guarded about how he sets the team up but some fans see it as another example of him being a terrible coach - which is simply not true.

 

[lilcurt]

Those philosophy quotes are absolutely tragic!

"I want winners".
"Midfielders back in the day".
"Simple game".

Shocking.

Name me an elite manager who would talk like that.

We're literally paying a passion merchant here folks, to be manager of the best club in the world.

 

[van Nistelrooy]

Attention on Jesse Lingard
"He’s got one year left on his contract and of course the club is talking to him and his dad. We see him as a Man United player in the future as well.

Jesse has come back into us after a great spell at West Ham; he showed his qualities, he's back into the England squad, scoring goals.

We really want to see the best of Jesse this season, we support him and we hope to keep him here with us, he’s a red through and through."

Take all that excitment and optimism from the Ronaldo, Varane, Sancho arrivals and throw it in the nearesr dustbin you can find!

For as long as Ole and the club ahere to this belief on Lingard, we're going to achieve nothing. One step forward, two steps back.

We've learnt nothing!

 

[Nicoseth]

Those philosophy quotes are absolutely tragic!

"I want winners".
"Midfielders back in the day".
"Simple game".

Shocking.

Name me an elite manager who would talk like that.

We're literally paying a passion merchant here folks, to be manager of the best club in the world.

Give over. Passion merchant? What are you on about? What would you like him to have answered, out of interest?

 

[Alvaro Maestre]

Desire to win philosophy.....hope thats just a way to tell the press to feck off but I honestly hope he has a better answer to that.

 

[lilcurt]

Highs and lows of United's form...
"No, it doesn’t surprise me. I've got my job and we do our job, you tend to in the media get judged by behaviours and outcomes rather than intentions. It's black and white. But we go into the game with good intentions, we make changes with good intentions, go into a tackle and make a pass with good intentions. The outcome always decides which headline we’ll see and very very rarely is the game fantastic or really really bad, it just hovers about good or not good enough.

We know the expectations are high and we expect more of ourselves as well, the performance wasn’t up to our standard."

This quote is pretty shocking as well.

Just call us Intention FC.

I'm pretty sure every manager has 'good intentions'. The good ones get it right more often than not Ole, it's about the results of your intentions.

Absolute muppet stuff, can't believe the words that come out of his mouth at time.

 

[Desert Eagle]

Sorry, mate. No idea, how on Earth I got linked to that video. Have edited my post.

All good mate. I've made plenty of mistakes with the link function on here. As for those saying what do you expect Ole to say, he's not going to explain his tactics in public etc. How come Pep,Tuchel,Klopp etc all manage to do it?

 

[Nicoseth]

All good mate. I've made plenty of mistakes with the link function on here. As for those saying what do you expect Ole to say, he's not going to explain his tactics in public etc. How come Pep,Tuchel,Klopp etc all manage to do it?

Some examples would be good here.

 

[tenpoless]

The game is simple... as I expected and the only football experience I have are within FIFA and PES.

 

[lilcurt]

Give over. Passion merchant? What are you on about? What would you like him to have answered, out of interest?

Yes, a passion merchant. He is a manager who talking about players being winners and wanting it more.

I would expect someone in his position to explain how he would like us to play and what he is doing to effect that change. He doesn't have to give away tactical secrets doing that, but he should be able to articulate our issues retaining the ball and what is being done to address it.

But no, we get the winners spiel. It's like listen to Paul Merson on Soccer Saturday.

 

[Hugh Jass]

Solskjaer asked about midfield and his 'philosophy'
"I’m not here to explain every single detail of how I want my team to play. We want central midfielder who can play. Today’s football is about he’s a good 6, 8, 10 back in the day you had proper midfielders, Roy Keane, Paul Scholes, Bryan Robson. You see players out there who can attack and defend and that’s what we look for, midfielders who are complete and we try to develop that in our midfield.

It's a balance between with how many you commit forward and how you defend because one little mistake and there’s a counter attack towards you.

Overarching philosophy… I don’t sit here and claim and talk... football is a simple game and it's about making good decisions and being in a team.

Sometimes we look too much into the all intricacies and it’s passion, it's desire - who wants to win the ball? Which one of the striker has the desire to get on the end of crosses?

You can talk about all sorts, it looks nice on paper. But when you go out on that pitch, it's who wants to win, that’s one of the big things. You want winners and I think I’m getting there with my team, team players."

This is what my u12 coach used say. We won nothing.

 

[Desert Eagle]

Some examples would be good here.

from 30 seconds on youtube. I'm sure there are plenty more. None are so blind as those unwilling to see.

 

[estel_manutd]

What's so wrong in what he said? Man Utd will play 9 out of 10 games against inferior teams - you don't need tactics to win those game because we have better players all around the pitch. However, if the opposition wants it more than you, you will lose. It's about making sure the players are hungry, are ready for a fight, and do the basics well.

Of course, when you play fellow title challengers, you need a tactical game plan and I think Ole and his staff has delivered on that account over the past 2 seasons. His record against the big teams is decent.

 

[Alvaro Maestre]

That's the type of quotes you get from a DOF....

 

[sullydnl]

All good mate. I've made plenty of mistakes with the link function on here. As for those saying what do you expect Ole to say, he's not going to explain his tactics in public etc. How come Pep,Tuchel,Klopp etc all manage to do it?

Well the difference is that they're likely far more able to do so, because they have more intelligence in that regard.

But that isn't necessarily damning in and of itself, as it's perfectly valid to rely on your coaches to deal with tactical specifics. As SAF did with Carlos Queiroz, for example. And I wouldn't have expected SAF to go into technical detail in a press conference either.

The issue with these comments (if there is one) is simply that they reinforce the image of Ole as someone who isn't tactically astute. And I don't get why he'd want to play into that image.

 

[Teja]

Some examples would be good here.

“The best moment to win the ball is immediately after your team just lost it. The opponent is still looking for orientation where to pass the ball. He will have taken his eyes off the game to make his tackle or interception and he will have expended energy. Both make him vulnerable.”

“If you win the ball back high up the pitch and you are close to the goal, it is only one pass away a really good opportunity most of the time. No playmaker in the world can be as good as a good counter-pressing situation.”

“I’ve never met Sacchi, but I learned everything I am as a coach from him and my former coach [Wolfgang Frank], who took it from Sacchi.
“Even though we were in the second division we were the first German team to play 4-4-2 without a libero.
“We watched this very boring video, 500 times, of Sacchi doing defensive drills, using sticks and without the ball, with Maldini, Baresi and Albertini.
“We used to think before then that if the other players are better, you have to lose. After that we learned anything is possible—you can beat better teams by using tactics.
“My team is 10 percent of the team of Arrigo Sacchi.”

“This kind of full-back now is much more of a midfield player. The kind of football they play, in halfspaces, they are the other winger sometimes, the central midfielder sometimes.

“The rule is: be an option, get the pass or be available for other players.”

“We do not claim that counter pressing is the only way to play.

“It has proved to be very useful for us and remains an important part of the game. However, we would like to have 90 percent ball possession in every game.

“Our own footballing approach is often underestimated in my opinion. Even at Mainz we didn’t get promoted solely because we defended better than the rest of the league, we also played different systems there.

“In the end, however, it has mostly been reduced to this: the pressing only. But whatever. There are worse ways to be viewed, but I have never felt this way and it does not do justice to the truth either.”

 

[TheMagicFoolBus]

Some examples would be good here.

Two timestamps from the same video. The second clip is especially illuminating (starts at 8:10).

 

[devilish]

Solskjaer asked about midfield and his 'philosophy'
"I’m not here to explain every single detail of how I want my team to play. We want central midfielder who can play. Today’s football is about he’s a good 6, 8, 10 back in the day you had proper midfielders, Roy Keane, Paul Scholes, Bryan Robson. You see players out there who can attack and defend and that’s what we look for, midfielders who are complete and we try to develop that in our midfield.

It's a balance between with how many you commit forward and how you defend because one little mistake and there’s a counter attack towards you.

Overarching philosophy… I don’t sit here and claim and talk... football is a simple game and it's about making good decisions and being in a team.

Sometimes we look too much into the all intricacies and it’s passion, it's desire - who wants to win the ball? Which one of the striker has the desire to get on the end of crosses?

You can talk about all sorts, it looks nice on paper. But when you go out on that pitch, it's who wants to win, that’s one of the big things. You want winners and I think I’m getting there with my team, team players."

So unless the club manages to bring him a prime Keane, Scholes and Robson then surely we must admit that we're setting the guy to fail.

 

[Godfather]

Tragic.

 

[Tom Cato]

This is what my u12 coach used say. We won nothing.

That's because you were a trash player mate

 

[RedDevil@84]

Attention on Jesse Lingard
"He’s got one year left on his contract and of course the club is talking to him and his dad. We see him as a Man United player in the future as well.

Jesse has come back into us after a great spell at West Ham; he showed his qualities, he's back into the England squad, scoring goals.

We really want to see the best of Jesse this season, we support him and we hope to keep him here with us, he’s a red through and through."

Why? Jeez. We can't keep paying all average players, loads of money, just because of sentiment.

 

[UnofficialDevil]

Solskjaer asked about midfield and his 'philosophy'
"I’m not here to explain every single detail of how I want my team to play. We want central midfielder who can play. Today’s football is about he’s a good 6, 8, 10 back in the day you had proper midfielders, Roy Keane, Paul Scholes, Bryan Robson. You see players out there who can attack and defend and that’s what we look for, midfielders who are complete and we try to develop that in our midfield.

It's a balance between with how many you commit forward and how you defend because one little mistake and there’s a counter attack towards you.

Overarching philosophy… I don’t sit here and claim and talk... football is a simple game and it's about making good decisions and being in a team.

Sometimes we look too much into the all intricacies and it’s passion, it's desire - who wants to win the ball? Which one of the striker has the desire to get on the end of crosses?

You can talk about all sorts, it looks nice on paper. But when you go out on that pitch, it's who wants to win, that’s one of the big things. You want winners and I think I’m getting there with my team, team players."

Bizzare

 

[Zaphod2319]

That's because you were a trash player mate

I mean, he clearly didn't want to win the ball.

 

[pcaming]

Ole needs to realise midfielders don't come in that mould anymore. They're now very rare players.

 

[Sparky_Hughes]

People believe that players are like candy you can just ship off to wherever you please.

They don't realise that even if a club accepts a bid for a player, that player doesn't have to accept the move.

If he doesnt then you arent hitting him hard enough

 

[RedDevil@84]

The quotes and the analysis of quotes on this forum is slowly starting to look like Jose's 3rd year.

 

[Hugh Jass]

That's because you were a trash player mate

I was pretty shit alright. Still though the tactics, if you can even call them that, were work harder than your man.

 

[tomaldinho1]

The quotes and the analysis of quotes on this forum is slowly starting to look like Jose's 3rd year.

Difference being Jose was actively trying to get sacked.

 

[largelyworried]

Solskjaer asked about midfield and his 'philosophy'
"I’m not here to explain every single detail of how I want my team to play. We want central midfielder who can play. Today’s football is about he’s a good 6, 8, 10 back in the day you had proper midfielders, Roy Keane, Paul Scholes, Bryan Robson. You see players out there who can attack and defend and that’s what we look for, midfielders who are complete and we try to develop that in our midfield.

It's a balance between with how many you commit forward and how you defend because one little mistake and there’s a counter attack towards you.

Overarching philosophy… I don’t sit here and claim and talk... football is a simple game and it's about making good decisions and being in a team.

Sometimes we look too much into the all intricacies and it’s passion, it's desire - who wants to win the ball? Which one of the striker has the desire to get on the end of crosses?

You can talk about all sorts, it looks nice on paper. But when you go out on that pitch, it's who wants to win, that’s one of the big things. You want winners and I think I’m getting there with my team, team players."

Ole wums the caf.

 

[Harold_Giles]

Did everyone expect a Ted talk from him regarding our system?

It was question from a Pre match press conference.

Now people are posting lengthy interviews with Pep and Tuchel in comparison

Jesus wept

 

[Mickeza]

Ole needs to realise midfielders don't come in that mould anymore. They're now very rare players.

Bellingham is exactly that type of player.

 

[#07]

Just seen the press conference. Honestly I'm not fussed about what Ole says. He said Alexis Sanchez would come back and surprise people, Smalling would be reintegrated, Young would be our left back for years. He just says stuff. Its always gonna be positive, sugary and optimistic.

The one thing I will say is that he didn't really look like he was looking forward to it. Yes, yes body language expert blah, blah, blah. Just felt he looked like he'd been fuming since Tuesday. Could see it on his face.

 

[RedDevil@84]

Difference being Jose was actively trying to get sacked.

Ya. It was obvious. But the posters here were still losing their minds over what he said and what words he used.

 

[Desert Eagle]

Well the difference is that they're likely far more able to do so, because they have more intelligence in that regard.

But that isn't necessarily damning in and of itself, as it's perfectly valid to rely on your coaches to deal with tactical specifics. As SAF did with Carlos Queiroz, for example. And I wouldn't have expected SAF to go into technical detail in a press conference either.

The issue with these comments (if there is one) is simply that they reinforce the image of Ole as someone who isn't tactically astute. And I don't get why he'd want to play into that image.

Fergie did it is one of my pet peeves on this forum. Fergie was tactically astute enough to dominate the prem for 20 odd years and overcome the likes of Wenger, Mourinho, Mancini etc.

I'm very uncomfortable with the fact that our manager isn't tactically astute. I'm pretty sure most United fans feel that way especially when the people he has selected and trusted to be his tactical brains are noobs who have done nothing outside of United.

 

[tomaldinho1]

Ya. It was obvious. But the posters here were still losing their minds over what he said and what words he used.

Yeah agreed, I was so done with Mou by third season. I feel like the level of discontent now is highest it's been, patience seems to have run out for most. WHUM is crucial.

 

[Mickeza]

I was pretty shit alright. Still though the tactics, if you can even call them that, were work harder than your man.

That was Ferguson’s go-to team talk according to Darren Fletcher anytime we played a team we were expected to beat. “You’re better than them - the only way you don’t win is if they outwork you”.

 

[pcaming]

Bellingham is exactly that type of player.

How likely we are to getting him?? and if we don't who are the alternatives. Mind you even if we do get him, we need another...