Solskjær press conference vs West Ham (A)

[RedStarUnited]

Did everyone expect a Ted talk from him regarding our system?

It was question from a Pre match press conference.

Now people are posting lengthy interviews with Pep and Tuchel in comparison

Jesus wept

I just want to know what this line means;

"Overarching philosophy… I don’t sit here and claim and talk... football is a simple game and it's about making good decisions and being in a team."

 

[Gandalf]

Take all that excitment and optimism from the Ronaldo, Varane, Sancho arrivals and throw it in the nearesr dustbin you can find!

For as long as Ole and the club ahere to this belief on Lingard, we're going to achieve nothing. One step forward, two steps back.

We've learnt nothing!

So will you put your toys back in the pram and stop being such a drama Queen if Ole comes out next time and says Jesse is proper shit and we can't wait for his fecking contract to expire? Ole has been following the SAF approach to pressers since he got here, never throw anyone under the bus and never give the press any real details, press conferences are a chore to be got through not an opportunity to blather on about your amazing tactical gifts whilst stroking your ego. I swear, every one of these threads is full of people acting like they have never heard Ole speak before.

 

[Oranges038]

Ole on his midfield...

 

[Zlatattack]

from 30 seconds on youtube. I'm sure there are plenty more. None are so blind as those unwilling to see.

Why can't we have one of these? I love Ole, but pashun is not an acceptable answer.

 

[Sandikan]

Haven't read the quotes but I'm furious about whatever he's said.

 

[glazed]

Buy a DM already and stop chatting sh1te

 

[cyberman]

Don’t know why he’s being laughed at. He’s telling us that he wants dynamic midfielders instead of specialised players like Rice.
I see nothing wrong with his comments

 

[Martial'sEmergingSmile]

Did everyone expect a Ted talk from him regarding our system?

Maybe not a Ted Talk, but at least not a Ted Lasso talk...which is what we got. Bland cliches mixed with syrupy 'positivity'.

That was Ferguson’s go-to team talk according to Darren Fletcher anytime we played a team we were expected to beat. “You’re better than them - the only way you don’t win is if they outwork you”.

Which is more practical when you have a high IQ team - which we definitely don't...or at least a hard-working team, which we also don't come close to having.

 

[Flytan]

Attention on Jesse Lingard
"He’s got one year left on his contract and of course the club is talking to him and his dad. We see him as a Man United player in the future as well.

Jesse has come back into us after a great spell at West Ham; he showed his qualities, he's back into the England squad, scoring goals.

We really want to see the best of Jesse this season, we support him and we hope to keep him here with us, he’s a red through and through."

Same song on repeat. The club will never learn to be ruthless like the other top clubs.

If Moyes said these things he'd be laughed at for the out-of-depth position he was in.

 

[Oldyella]

Ole on his midfield...

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[Mickeza]

Which is more practical when you have a high IQ team - which we definitely don't...or at least a hard-working team, which we also don't come close to having.

Sorry - What’s a high IQ team? And we do have a hard working team when Cavani is up top with Mcfred.

 

[2 man midfield]

Bit concerning if he doesn’t have a better answer for the style of play question, hopefully he’s just holding back from the media as you’d expect. Seems like he leaves all that stuff to McKenna anyway.

 

[HailtotheKing]

Straight from the Big Sam & Sean Dyche book of football secrets that line , jesus

I appreciate the sentiment but that will only ever get you so far, if our tactics is passion and vibes then were in trouble

Yeah, passion and desire are something you'd expect a manager of a lower-level team to talk about when they come up against us. Not the other way around. Sure, you gotta be switched on against a team like Young Boys. But you don't really need it as much when your talent far outweighs them. It's the kinda thing Wagner probably drilled into them before playing us. Little bit embarrassing to be honest.

 

[FatTails]

Love it. All this stuff about possession and tactics and formations is so overrated. It comes down to having the best players in the world in each position, and more importantly, the best HUMAN BEINGS who consistently show passion, desire, and dedication to the badge.ok

 

[Red Star One]

Solskjaer asked about midfield and his 'philosophy'
"I’m not here to explain every single detail of how I want my team to play. We want central midfielder who can play. Today’s football is about he’s a good 6, 8, 10 back in the day you had proper midfielders, Roy Keane, Paul Scholes, Bryan Robson. You see players out there who can attack and defend and that’s what we look for, midfielders who are complete and we try to develop that in our midfield.

It's a balance between with how many you commit forward and how you defend because one little mistake and there’s a counter attack towards you.

Overarching philosophy… I don’t sit here and claim and talk... football is a simple game and it's about making good decisions and being in a team.

Sometimes we look too much into the all intricacies and it’s passion, it's desire - who wants to win the ball? Which one of the striker has the desire to get on the end of crosses?

You can talk about all sorts, it looks nice on paper. But when you go out on that pitch, it's who wants to win, that’s one of the big things. You want winners and I think I’m getting there with my team, team players."

If football was a simple game, even not the greatest manager would’ve won something with a squad such as ours over the last years. And PSG/City would’ve dominated CL, it’s that simple.

It’s a very worrying and cliche comment, to openly disregard value of tactics and coaching good practices and say “it’s an easy game and all that matters is who wants to win more” is embarrassing, especially after a shambles of tactical performance he has given us few days ago, after we lost to a much inferior side not because we didn’t want to win it - because our player had no idea what to do to ensure good result. Makes me really sad because this stuff about football being simple and only needing passion is literally straight from me high school PE teacher notebook.

 

[Red Star One]

If you think that's what Ole's telling the players to go out and do, you're incredibly naive.

We’ve had this discussion at this very forum million times, but what is it that makes you believe our players receive top-notch tactical instructions that allow them to work better as a team and make the best use of their skills? I see at some other teams, the game plan, the ideas, the drilled movements, the managers impact. What is it really that Ole tells them, then?

 

[Mickeza]

The full press conference for those who like context.

 

[tomaldinho1]

Don’t know why he’s being laughed at. He’s telling us that he wants dynamic midfielders instead of specialised players like Rice.
I see nothing wrong with his comments

The worrying thing is that comment comes after he essentially poo-poo's the idea of a specialist DM:

Today’s football is about he’s a good 6, 8, 10 back in the day you had proper midfielders

 

[Big Andy]

Jesus Christ, half the people in here are fecking Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime.

They sail from orgasmic euphoria after tearing Leeds a new one to suicidal depression in the space of a week. There's no middle ground.

To say Ole isn't "tactical" is bollocks. He has his way of setting up the team that is there for all to see. A solid defence, 2 holding protective midfielders and then unleash the front 4 on the counter. It's hardly rocket science. Just because he didn't use "word of the day" terms like Trequartista or Regista, or wave his arms about on the touchline like a chimp on drugs, or gurn about with shit teeth, or you know, tell some no mark reporter who basically asked a loaded question to generate "news", the ins and outs of his system.

Not a single one of you (or me) knows what they are coached, or how. We're top of the league (granted after 4 games), unbeaten away in 28 games, finished 2nd in the league last year, got to a major european final last year, and only lost on the lottery of a penalty shootout. We're miles an miles ahead of where we were just 2 seasons ago, both in terms of results, the general environment about the place, the first XI. It goes beyond what you see in the 90 minutes on the pitch, which lets be honest, is 99% on the players, not the manager once they cross the white lines, and that's notwithstanding red cards in the first 30 minutes, or brainless backpasses, neither of which the managers tactics have any effect on.

Some of you need to wake up and realise that you can't win every game, you need squad players such as Lingard who while they aren't world beaters, they can help the squad at times.

Get behind the manager, support the team, because from reading this, 90% of people seem to be happy for him to fail, so they can get some other "tackticul" manager like say a Conte or a Simeone in, who will alienate the players, play boring football and the fans will then start to moan about that.

Grow up ffs.

 

[Samid]

The full press conference for those who like context.

Why is he smiling in the thumbnail

 

[Gandalf]

We’ve had this discussion at this very forum million times, but what is it that makes you believe our players receive top-notch tactical instructions that allow them to work better as a team and make the best use of their skills? I see at some other teams, the game plan, the ideas, the drilled movements, the managers impact. What is it really that Ole tells them, then?

You could just as easily point to the amazing tactical work and instructions of Pep which have on more than one occasion over complicated things to the point that his ravening horde of Galacticos have collapsed in confusion, their exits in the last two CL tournaments are clear evidence of Pep overthinking things. Football is played at high speed and frankly the average player is thick as merde so the old saying about keep it simple stupid tends to be very effective when setting up your team.

 

[Jeffchin]

Those philosophy quotes are absolutely tragic!

"I want winners".
"Midfielders back in the day".
"Simple game".

That's what my PE teacher said as well

 

[tenpoless]

Jesus Christ, half the people in here are fecking Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime.

They sail from orgasmic euphoria after tearing Leeds a new one to suicidal depression in the space of a week. There's no middle ground.

To say Ole isn't "tactical" is bollocks. He has his way of setting up the team that is there for all to see. A solid defence, 2 holding protective midfielders and then unleash the front 4 on the counter. It's hardly rocket science. Just because he didn't use "word of the day" terms like Trequartista or Regista, or wave his arms about on the touchline like a chimp on drugs, or gurn about with shit teeth, or you know, tell some no mark reporter who basically asked a loaded question to generate "news", the ins and outs of his system.

Not a single one of you (or me) knows what they are coached, or how. We're top of the league (granted after 4 games), unbeaten away in 28 games, finished 2nd in the league last year, got to a major european final last year, and only lost on the lottery of a penalty shootout. We're miles an miles ahead of where we were just 2 seasons ago, both in terms of results, the general environment about the place, the first XI. It goes beyond what you see in the 90 minutes on the pitch, which lets be honest, is 99% on the players, not the manager once they cross the white lines, and that's notwithstanding red cards in the first 30 minutes, or brainless backpasses, neither of which the managers tactics have any effect on.

Some of you need to wake up and realise that you can't win every game, you need squad players such as Lingard who while they aren't world beaters, they can help the squad at times.

Get behind the manager, support the team, because from reading this, 90% of people seem to be happy for him to fail, so they can get some other "tackticul" manager like say a Conte or a Simeone in, who will alienate the players, play boring football and the fans will then start to moan about that.

Grow up ffs.

Would be nice if the coaching team can figure out how to solve our midfield problem without relying on a new midfielder if Ole doesnt see anyone available that fits what he wants. Maybe by setting us up differently or instructing specific players on what to do or by playing more midfielders when needed. Because thats the problem and it has been here for years. Trying the same thing over and over is just madness. I dont think playing two midfielders that are struggling against pressing team is a good idea, especially if the opponent has more bodies, its basic logic we dont have the carrick or scholes of midfielders. So why not change how we setup. Bruno was sometimes running around like a headless chicken while our midfield always consist of 2 people that are clearly struggling. That part I never understand. Surely if the coaches say to Bruno to help he will help. We have 1 big game plan and thats down to the coaching staff and manager. I see both the good and bad of Ole's career as United manager so far.

 

[Harold_Giles]

Jesus Christ, half the people in here are fecking Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime.

They sail from orgasmic euphoria after tearing Leeds a new one to suicidal depression in the space of a week. There's no middle ground.

To say Ole isn't "tactical" is bollocks. He has his way of setting up the team that is there for all to see. A solid defence, 2 holding protective midfielders and then unleash the front 4 on the counter. It's hardly rocket science. Just because he didn't use "word of the day" terms like Trequartista or Regista, or wave his arms about on the touchline like a chimp on drugs, or gurn about with shit teeth, or you know, tell some no mark reporter who basically asked a loaded question to generate "news", the ins and outs of his system.

Not a single one of you (or me) knows what they are coached, or how. We're top of the league (granted after 4 games), unbeaten away in 28 games, finished 2nd in the league last year, got to a major european final last year, and only lost on the lottery of a penalty shootout. We're miles an miles ahead of where we were just 2 seasons ago, both in terms of results, the general environment about the place, the first XI. It goes beyond what you see in the 90 minutes on the pitch, which lets be honest, is 99% on the players, not the manager once they cross the white lines, and that's notwithstanding red cards in the first 30 minutes, or brainless backpasses, neither of which the managers tactics have any effect on.

Some of you need to wake up and realise that you can't win every game, you need squad players such as Lingard who while they aren't world beaters, they can help the squad at times.

Get behind the manager, support the team, because from reading this, 90% of people seem to be happy for him to fail, so they can get some other "tackticul" manager like say a Conte or a Simeone in, who will alienate the players, play boring football and the fans will then start to moan about that.

Grow up ffs.

Well put.

Looking at the forum you'd think we were without points in the league and already out of the CL.

 

[FootyGirl88]

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[FootyGirl88]

That's what my PE teacher said as well

dkm

 

[Withnail]

This quote is pretty shocking as well.

Just call us Intention FC.

I'm pretty sure every manager has 'good intentions'. The good ones get it right more often than not Ole, it's about the results of your intentions.

Absolute muppet stuff, can't believe the words that come out of his mouth at time.

Isn't that just a variation on the 'trust the process' mantra that you hear from a lot of elite sports people, rather than the amateur-hour slant you're putting on it?

 

[Water Melon]

You could just as easily point to the amazing tactical work and instructions of Pep which have on more than one occasion over complicated things to the point that his ravening horde of Galacticos have collapsed in confusion, their exits in the last two CL tournaments are clear evidence of Pep overthinking things. Football is played at high speed and frankly the average player is thick as merde so the old saying about keep it simple stupid tends to be very effective when setting up your team.

Pep has consistently been up there amoung the best managers in the world. Yes, he does overcomplicate things at times, but his record is out there for everyone to see. His tactics and instructions let his teams achieve fantastic results.

 

[Solius]

Imagine getting mad at a press conference.

 

[Withnail]

Jesus Christ, half the people in here are fecking Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime.

They sail from orgasmic euphoria after tearing Leeds a new one to suicidal depression in the space of a week. There's no middle ground.

To say Ole isn't "tactical" is bollocks. He has his way of setting up the team that is there for all to see. A solid defence, 2 holding protective midfielders and then unleash the front 4 on the counter. It's hardly rocket science. Just because he didn't use "word of the day" terms like Trequartista or Regista, or wave his arms about on the touchline like a chimp on drugs, or gurn about with shit teeth, or you know, tell some no mark reporter who basically asked a loaded question to generate "news", the ins and outs of his system.

Not a single one of you (or me) knows what they are coached, or how. We're top of the league (granted after 4 games), unbeaten away in 28 games, finished 2nd in the league last year, got to a major european final last year, and only lost on the lottery of a penalty shootout. We're miles an miles ahead of where we were just 2 seasons ago, both in terms of results, the general environment about the place, the first XI. It goes beyond what you see in the 90 minutes on the pitch, which lets be honest, is 99% on the players, not the manager once they cross the white lines, and that's notwithstanding red cards in the first 30 minutes, or brainless backpasses, neither of which the managers tactics have any effect on.

Some of you need to wake up and realise that you can't win every game, you need squad players such as Lingard who while they aren't world beaters, they can help the squad at times.

Get behind the manager, support the team, because from reading this, 90% of people seem to be happy for him to fail, so they can get some other "tackticul" manager like say a Conte or a Simeone in, who will alienate the players, play boring football and the fans will then start to moan about that.

Grow up ffs.

Well said. It's very early in the season for melt-downs. We should still get out of the group and this won't really matter.

 

[Pirlo'sBeard]

That was a press conference from a man feeling pressure already.

 

[roonster09]

Imagine getting mad at a press conference.

Weekly show.

 

[Flytan]

Well said. It's very early in the season for melt-downs. We should still get out of the group and this won't really matter.

We should have beaten young boys.
We should have put up a title fight after being top of the table midyear
We should have beaten Villareal
We should have gotten out of the group of the UCL last season

We haven't been doing things we should be doing consistently since SAF was the manager.

 

[Gandalf]

Pep has consistently been up there amoung the best managers in the world. Yes, he does overcomplicate things at times, but his record is out there for everyone to see. His tactics and instructions let his teams achieve fantastic results.

I think Ole has a clear tactical plan and you would have to be the most blinkered Ole out supporter to not recognize how he has improved and developed the younger players here during his reign. Pep has had great success but has never walked into a difficult job or a rebuild. I do agree that Ole struggles with in game adjustments sometimes but most Managers do as it can be tough to switch game plans in the heat of the moment although admittedly Tuchel seems to make it look simple.

 

[Samid]

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Sauce possibly available vs Villa next week?

 

[E-mal]

I wouldn't take much of what he said in a presser to judge his tactical ability.
My judgement has always come from the eye test and we are a disjointed reactive team.
We recycle possession poorly and often rely on moment of brilliance. This is the reason why our performance fluctuates with no consistency because when those brilliant moments dont come we are short of ideas.
In general, he is not tactically brilliant, so what's the point in having him around?( I ofcourse appreciate how he has build the team albeit with some glaring deficiencies. )

 

[lilcurt]

Isn't that just a variation on the 'trust the process' mantra that you hear from a lot of elite sports people, rather than the amateur-hour slant you're putting on it?

I only really hear that from Arsenal... What great company to be in.

 

[Mickeza]

We should have beaten young boys.
We should have put up a title fight after being top of the table midyear
We should have beaten Villareal
We should have gotten out of the group of the UCL last season

We haven't been doing things we should be doing consistently since SAF was the manager.

Man City won 21 games in a row from December to March…

 

[Withnail]

We should have beaten young boys.
We should have put up a title fight after being top of the table midyear
We should have beaten Villareal
We should have gotten out of the group of the UCL last season

We haven't been doing things we should be doing consistently since SAF was the manager.

The meltdown is still premature because nothing has happened so far this season.

If we don't make it out of the group or go on a horrendous run which means we're out of top 4 after 10/15 games then by all means let rip.

 

[Blood Mage]

I get the sense that Ole just wants to keep all of his mates close because he feels the pressure of managing the club. That's why Lingard is still here, and that's why he won't replace Carrick and McKenna with better coaches.