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The decision was made before Ole. Besides that Jones has been playing and was in the England squad but don’t let that stop you
He barely made any starts under Mourinho in the league and would likely haven’t had his contract renewed under him. He made most of his starts after Mourinho was sacked. So the leadership was negotiating a contract for him without a manager’s consent? Also, since when did being in the England squad become worthy of being awarded a new contract? England have called up many average players who’d never get a contract at United.
 

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Anyone reckon he can do a job as a holding midfielder? That's where he played in that 7-2 game we beat Blackburn that supposedly convinced Fergie to sign him. I reckon he could get his second wind here as a proper destroyer. Finally, a successor to Hargreaves' #4 shirt in midfield.
 

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He barely made any starts under Mourinho in the league and would likely haven’t had his contract renewed under him. He made most of his starts after Mourinho was sacked. So the leadership was negotiating a contract for him without a manager’s consent? Also, since when did being in the England squad become worthy of being awarded a new contract? England have called up many average players who’d never get a contract at United.
Sigh. They keep coming. Someone man the gate ffs

Now when did Ole take over, March 2019 wasn’t it

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Sigh. They keep coming. Someone man the gate ffs

Now when did Ole take over, March 2019 wasn’t it

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Six of the nine starts he has made this term in the Premier League have come since the Norwegian was installed as United boss following Jose Mourinho's sacking in mid-December.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles...s-new-contract-with-manchester-united-to-2023
He made more starts in 2 months under the caretaker manager than he did that season until Mourinho was sacked. Are you saying the caretaker manager had no input into the contract renewal?
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/47169999 This is what Ole said when the renewal actually happened.

United interim manager Ole Gunnar Solskjaer said the new deal for the England centre-back is a sign the club are planning ahead.

"I have a vision of what this club will look like in two years," he said.
 

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https://bleacherreport.com/articles...s-new-contract-with-manchester-united-to-2023
He made more starts in 2 months under the caretaker manager than he did that season until Mourinho was sacked. Are you saying the caretaker manager had no input into the contract renewal?
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/47169999 This is what Ole said when the renewal actually happened.
I could have swore Mourinho was there for more than half a season. Oh look the previous season says 23 games
 

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No need to buy a DM as we have Jonesy, played often there under Fergie and Moyes and did well too :p
 

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Rich people do have problems! They are as human and prone to folly and misfortune as much as you and I. However, Phil has allegedly refused loans, refused to give up a shirt number and was seen on video criticizing Solskjaer to Ed Woodward because Solskjaer wasn't picking him when he felt that he was "fit". This is part of the reason Rio went in on him. Do I agree with how Rio handled it? No, I do not. However, Phil has flaws and it's hard to be sympathetic to him if even just one of these stories are true. It shows a $ h I T T Y individual who has narcissistic traits.
That video comment is not what happened. He just made a shitty comment whilst in the stands, when we conceded, next to Ed - who quite clearly and rightly, called him out on it. All whilst Sky had the cameras pointed at them.
 

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That says a lot for you then because I feel Rio has made a bit of a twat of himself there
I'm frustrated with the situation of Phil Jones. We have a defender that's been out for God know how long now. I don't even remember the last time he played for us.
I often forget he is even a Man United player.

So excuse me for showing frustration for a player that's getting paid to sit on the bench when we desperately need backup for our first team CB's.

Would anyone be happy for him to continue to languish on the operating table for another season?
 

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I'm frustrated with the situation of Phil Jones. We have a defender that's been out for God know how long now. I don't even remember the last time he played for us.
I often forget he is even a Man United player.

So excuse me for showing frustration for a player that's getting paid to sit on the bench when we desperately need backup for our first team CB's.

Would anyone be happy for him to continue to languish on the operating table for another season?
But he’s not paid to sit on the bench because he’s been out with a very serious injury for 18 months. He’s played 30 minutes so far. By all means have a go at a fit player but you’re having a go at a player who’s been injured so not even available to sit on the bench
 

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But he’s not paid to sit on the bench because he’s been out with a very serious injury for 18 months. He’s played 30 minutes so far. By all means have a go at a fit player but you’re having a go at a player who’s been injured so not even available to sit on the bench
I'm not having a go at the player. I said before it's frustrating to see him sit on the bench or not get any game time. I'm frustrated with the situation of Phil Jones.
Why is it on this forum when you post then people think you're having a go.
Which I'm assuming is criticize because I'm not from the UK and English is not my first language.

Anyways I'll leave it here with this being my last comment.
 

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I'm not having a go at the player. I said before it's frustrating to see him sit on the bench or not get any game time. I'm frustrated with the situation of Phil Jones.
Why is it on this forum when you post then people think you're having a go.
Which I'm assuming is criticize because I'm not from the UK and English is not my first language.

Anyways I'll leave it here with this being my last comment.
But it comes across as a criticism particularly as the player is only now playing back to fitness after 18 months. You can’t be selected if you’re injured so your post is badly timed at best
 

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“I must be an easy target," the England international has told The Times. "Every footballer has a tag and unfortunately, mine is, ‘Let’s have a laugh at him.’


“When my career finishes and I’m enjoying my life - and by the way I’m fortunate that I’ll be able to do that - the keyboard warriors will still be in their mum’s spare bedroom, sipping Pepsi that’s flat, eating a Pot Noodle, sitting in their boxers, tweeting.”


Jones added on the impact internet trolls can have on footballers in the modern era: "In this society we’re living in at the minute, all the racism and stuff that affects mental health - I’d just say be careful. You don’t know how it’s going to affect players: physically, mentally, emotionally.


“We always go back to the same point: ‘Oh they’re footballers, they should be able to deal with it, they get so much money, have this lavish lifestyle.’ Take all that away, strip all that back and we’re just human beings.


“Listen, my problems are not bigger than the problems someone has to deal with in an office, I know that, but they are problems. Footballers have problems like anybody else, and maybe me talking can help players.”

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“Listen, the respect I’ve got is enormous," he said. "I’ve shared a dressing room with Rio - great professional. Loved playing with him. Great lad, good humour. Learnt so much from him.


“What he said was poor. Really poor. I’m not into disputes, not into arguments, and if he didn’t know, he didn’t know [about the injury].”

The bolded part, haha, that's cold, really cold by Jones.
 

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“I must be an easy target," the England international has told The Times. "Every footballer has a tag and unfortunately, mine is, ‘Let’s have a laugh at him.’


“When my career finishes and I’m enjoying my life - and by the way I’m fortunate that I’ll be able to do that - the keyboard warriors will still be in their mum’s spare bedroom, sipping Pepsi that’s flat, eating a Pot Noodle, sitting in their boxers, tweeting.”


Jones added on the impact internet trolls can have on footballers in the modern era: "In this society we’re living in at the minute, all the racism and stuff that affects mental health - I’d just say be careful. You don’t know how it’s going to affect players: physically, mentally, emotionally.


“We always go back to the same point: ‘Oh they’re footballers, they should be able to deal with it, they get so much money, have this lavish lifestyle.’ Take all that away, strip all that back and we’re just human beings.


“Listen, my problems are not bigger than the problems someone has to deal with in an office, I know that, but they are problems. Footballers have problems like anybody else, and maybe me talking can help players.”

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“Listen, the respect I’ve got is enormous," he said. "I’ve shared a dressing room with Rio - great professional. Loved playing with him. Great lad, good humour. Learnt so much from him.


“What he said was poor. Really poor. I’m not into disputes, not into arguments, and if he didn’t know, he didn’t know [about the injury].”

The bolded part, haha, that's cold, really cold by Jones.
And they would still have played nearly as many minutes as him over the last few years.

I understand why he'd have a pop at the trolls, but it comes across in poor taste. Bragging about how comfortable he's going to live when his career finishes, I'd be curious to know what he thinks he's rightfully 'earned' in the last 2 years, considering he's pocketed more than £10 million. Or is it a case of, 'I deserve whatever is in my contract, regardless of whether I contribute or not'.

Just comes across as a bit of a knob in that paragraph.
 
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It's not just trolls who have to eat pot noodles these days. He really is a scumbag. Absolute disgrace
 

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Very lucky SAF saw something in him otherwise he’d be languishing in the lower leagues or without a club for years.
 

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I love how all the people that are offended by Phil's comments are revealing themselves to be exactly what Phil described. Cry more :drool:
 

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Yeah, that's not going to help you Phil.

Doesn't once mention that he's aware of the fact he's permanently never fit to contribute and just how ridiculously long these periods of unavailability are. Just calls everybody who questions it a skint idiot on the dole basically. Which is far from the truth because the only real form of critique he's garnered in all this time is from one of his peers.

I've been one to question him, absolutely, still do and I think Rio meant what he said and has been pressured to backtrack. Also the 'many faces of Phil Jones' are entirely his doing, nobody controls his face.

Apparently this makes me a bum living in my mum's house eating cold microwave noodles... Yet I moved out of my Mum's at 18, work for myself and hate pot noodles... yeah, I'm kind of a big deal Phil!! :mad:
 

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He is not ripping into people eating pot noodles, he is ripping into keyboard warriors attacking him that eat pot noodles.
Why does he need to bring up what they eat? He's basically saying they are too poor to afford a decent meal and are resorting to pot noodles. Which sadly a lot of people need to do right now.

Absolute cnut
 

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Why does he need to bring up what they eat? He's basically saying they are too poor to afford a decent meal and are resorting to pot noodles. Which sadly a lot of people need to do right now.

Absolute cnut
If you abuse people on social media, you deserve to be eating pot noodles and to be put in your place by anyone be it a football player or a random guy. It doesn't hurt if they get called out here and there, not at all.
But Phil is a knobhead for that interview, he seemed to have learned a bit from the Mourinho book.
 

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If you abuse people on social media, you deserve to be eating pot noodles and to be put in your place by anyone be it a football player or a random guy. It doesn't hurt if they get called out here and there, not at all.
But Phil is a knobhead for that interview, he seemed to have learned a bit from the Mourinho book.
And what about the people who aren't abusing people but simply struggling right now and having a pot noodle here and then for a meal?
 

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I think he should have been shipped out a long time ago. Injured or not, he's simply not good enough, as a footballer, he's not improved one bit since he first arrived.

If was playing well before his injuries, people would have a different mindset about him.

But all the early hype, the unfulfilled promise Combined with playing shit, being constantly injured and getting a new deal whilst being shit and injured. It's just made him an easy target for the trolls.
 

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And what about the people who aren't abusing people but simply struggling right now and having a pot noodle here and then for a meal?
I don't think social status was the point of his comment, but rather the fact that they never leave the basement. I dont think poor people drink pepsi.
 

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“I must be an easy target," the England international has told The Times. "Every footballer has a tag and unfortunately, mine is, ‘Let’s have a laugh at him.’


“When my career finishes and I’m enjoying my life - and by the way I’m fortunate that I’ll be able to do that - the keyboard warriors will still be in their mum’s spare bedroom, sipping Pepsi that’s flat, eating a Pot Noodle, sitting in their boxers, tweeting.”


Jones added on the impact internet trolls can have on footballers in the modern era: "In this society we’re living in at the minute, all the racism and stuff that affects mental health - I’d just say be careful. You don’t know how it’s going to affect players: physically, mentally, emotionally.


“We always go back to the same point: ‘Oh they’re footballers, they should be able to deal with it, they get so much money, have this lavish lifestyle.’ Take all that away, strip all that back and we’re just human beings.


“Listen, my problems are not bigger than the problems someone has to deal with in an office, I know that, but they are problems. Footballers have problems like anybody else, and maybe me talking can help players.”

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“Listen, the respect I’ve got is enormous," he said. "I’ve shared a dressing room with Rio - great professional. Loved playing with him. Great lad, good humour. Learnt so much from him.


“What he said was poor. Really poor. I’m not into disputes, not into arguments, and if he didn’t know, he didn’t know [about the injury].”

The bolded part, haha, that's cold, really cold by Jones.
Good on him. Well played.
 

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And what about the people who aren't abusing people but simply struggling right now and having a pot noodle here and then for a meal?
I also think it's really a poor reply from Jones. A rich man's mindset.

Hopefully he'll be shipped out as soon as possible.
 

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"Hey Phil what do you think about blocking youngsters coming through, not letting Varane have the number 4 and earning 5 million over the past couple of years doing nothing?"

"Well obviously I''m rich and will enjoy retirement so I hope it pisses off people on the internet. "

Idiot should just stick to focusing on football.
 
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Nothing to be gained by calling out trolls in a newspaper interview.Jones comes across as rattled.

I can't see a player who's played feck all football in years coming back and being good enough for a team with United's ambitions (he wasn't good enough before the injuries).

Fair play to him for getting fit and injury free - but United need to offload him quickly im the short window of time he is fit.
 

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I don't think social status was the point of his comment, but rather the fact that they never leave the basement. I dont think poor people drink pepsi.
Well it's really stupid for him to talk about people eating cheap meals. As I said a lot of people eat pot noodles because it's cheap and his comments are awful. He is in his own world. Absolute cnut
 

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Well it's really stupid for him to talk about people eating cheap meals. As I said a lot of people eat pot noodles because it's cheap and his comments are awful. He is in his own world. Absolute cnut
He's referencing pot noodles because they are quick and easy. Something that people who spend too much time online would be inclined to eat because they'd rather put their effort into online activities over making decent food.
 

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I'm torn between supporting him because i think he's right, or disliking him because the article is behind a paywall.
 

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Well it's really stupid for him to talk about people eating cheap meals. As I said a lot of people eat pot noodles because it's cheap and his comments are awful. He is in his own world. Absolute cnut
Well I can kind of see how that could be interpreted, but in the full context of the quote, he said he is very fortunate to be in his position, and when he retires he will be in a great position whereas those sad trolls will have done nothing to better themselves. Maybe he could've said frozen pizza or something but it likely wouldn't have had the same effect. Also dunno about you but I usually eat instant noodles for the convenience, when I was a struggling student I had crackers. You'd be surprised at how long a tub of margarine could last!
 

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He's referencing pot noodles because they are quick and easy. Something that people who spend too much time online would be inclined to eat because they'd rather put their effort into online activities over making decent food.
If I'd ever be in trouble for something I'd want you to be my lawyer.

I'm sure the flat Pepsi is also because they sre so busy with online activities that they forget to close the Pepsi bottle and it turns flat.

They are so busy with online activities that they forgot to work hence why they cant afford to move out and they have to live in their mums basement. Smart guy that Jones.
 
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