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Haven't played it so no real judgement but I do think you have to do something really special for a 3D platformer not to feel average. A good example is that Brothers game, which was elevated a lot by having co-op as the main feature.

I've thought for ages that this style of game might work better as a 2D game - similar to how I don't think Ori would transition well into 3D.

Still, it'll probably sell a lot and be a good basis for whatever they make next :)
Which brothers game? Those coop ones always interest me as I love them but have nobody to play with these days, all my mates have grown up and snort coke and bang hookers instead of playing video games. Dickheads.
 

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Someone above has posted that the tech may not be there for bars currently but it most certainly is creating a 3d effect with 2 speakers on the TV.
The only thing '3D sound' can do with 2 speakers is add reverb, pan, eq and volume difference to give the impression of it, to very limited results. They can't do anything special compared to what say Dolby can do, despite what afro once tried to argue but then quickly disappeared when asked for details.

Sony tried to claim that it utilised more sound sources, but Dolby can too, they just sometimes choose not to, because it can get messy while a lot of sound is in the same frequency ranges, especially if it's moving and you need to prioritise some of it (such as enemies).

The whole thing screams marketing plot from the beginning.

@Solius' mate's game releases tomorrow. Here's the launch trailer released today

This looks ace. Lovely graphics
 

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The only thing '3D sound' can do with 2 speakers is add reverb, pan, eq and volume difference to give the impression of it, to very limited results. They can't do anything special compared to what say Dolby can do, despite what afro once tried to argue but then quickly disappeared when asked for details.

Sony tried to claim that it utilised more sound sources, but Dolby can too, they just sometimes choose not to, because it can get messy while a lot of sound is in the same frequency ranges, especially if it's moving and you need to prioritise some of it (such as enemies).

The whole thing screams marketing plot from the beginning.


This looks ace. Lovely graphics
You can do 3d sound with a single soundbar some of the high end ones you can calibrate to the room and they bounce the sound waves off the walls in a way to give you the 3d aspect.

I know yamaha ones had this feature

https://europe.yamaha.com/en/products/audio_visual/sound_bar/ysp-4300/ysp_technology.html

Never tried it so can't say how bad or good it is though.
 

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You can do 3d sound with a single soundbar some of the high end ones you can calibrate to the room and they bounce the sound waves off the walls in a way to give you the 3d aspect.

I know yamaha ones had this feature

https://europe.yamaha.com/en/products/audio_visual/sound_bar/ysp-4300/ysp_technology.html

Never tried it so can't say how bad or good it is though.
Ah so that's basically using a mic to calculate which side to make changes on. Similar to Sonarworks software but for a different use. That's cool
 

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How you tried booting into safe mode?

Assuming you havent, unplug your ps5, power and hdmi. Wait for a 30 secs to a minute. Then plug them back in. Next up press and hold the power button on the ps5 until you hear a second beep. At this point you should see a safe menu pop up. If you get to this point, you can try changing you resolution to force to the tv to detect it again.

Failing this, there is an issue with samsung tvs where the hdmi doesnt see devices unless they are plugged in in a set order. Older samsung anyway and might be the same with some other tvs. What you wanna do here, is unplug all your hdmi cables. Unplug the tv and leave it for a minute. Then plug you ps5 hdmi in and nothing else. Then plug your tv power back in and see what you get. Best of luck, mate.
 

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How you tried booting into safe mode?

Assuming you havent, unplug your ps5, power and hdmi. Wait for a 30 secs to a minute. Then plug them back in. Next up press and hold the power button on the ps5 until you hear a second beep. At this point you should see a safe menu pop up. If you get to this point, you can try changing you resolution to force to the tv to detect it again.

Failing this, there is an issue with samsung tvs where the hdmi doesnt see devices unless they are plugged in in a set order. Older samsung anyway and might be the same with some other tvs. What you wanna do here, is unplug all your hdmi cables. Unplug the tv and leave it for a minute. Then plug you ps5 hdmi in and nothing else. Then plug your tv power back in and see what you get. Best of luck, mate.
I've tied everything, bar unplugging the TV. I'll give it a go tonight, thanks.
 

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Looks like kena will end up around 8/10 overall over the reviews. Good enough for me for a first effort I’ll probs pick it up this weekend!
 

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I'm holding off getting kena. It's looks like a lot of fun. I've a feeling it'll be on PSNow in a few months time.
 

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It didn't get good reviews from PC Gamer (65) and Eurogamer, two pretty good sources I think.

To me, Kena: Bridge of Spirits very much has first game syndrome - something with all the right ideas, weakened by their execution. If it does well - and given the fever with which it's been followed leading up to its release, I expect it will - it'll be because we often value AAA looks and mechanics more highly than attempts at innovation. I'm sure with this foundation Ember Lab has a great game in it, but this isn't it just yet.

This seems to sum up what people have been saying about the likelihood of the follow-up being better.

I'm holding off getting kena. It's looks like a lot of fun. I've a feeling it'll be on PSNow in a few months time.
Would have been a great game to put on PSNow Day One if Sony ever go down that route. Xbox has gotten away with some dross this way (looking at you The Medium).
 

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Would have been a great game to put on PSNow Day One if Sony ever go down that route. Xbox has gotten away with some dross this way (looking at you The Medium).
Bit premature to compare it to The Medium.




We'll see what happens when more reviews come in, but so far the first 'proper' game from a new studio is getting much more acclaim than that of a studio 10x the size and which has released more than 10x the number of games.
 

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Ah so that's basically using a mic to calculate which side to make changes on. Similar to Sonarworks software but for a different use. That's cool
Yea you Muppet so maybe next time don't pontificate about a subject you know feck all about :nono:
 

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Yea you Muppet so maybe next time don't pontificate about a subject you know feck all about :nono:
:lol: no nothing about. Only have a studio and have been involved with sound for years.

That’s also a completely different thing to PlayStation’s 3D sound you moron.

You said you were too high to go in to detail when I asked you for more detail. Maybe lay off the weed my man because you’re clearly high again.
 

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:lol: no nothing about. Only have a studio and have been involved with sound for years.

That’s also a completely different thing to PlayStation’s 3D sound you moron.

You said you were too high to go in to detail when I asked you for more detail. Maybe lay off the weed my man because you’re clearly high again.
Still winging it, don't lash out because you got shown up :lol:

I used to be a sound engineer too as if that means anything. You were the one unaware of how they simulate sound with 2 speakers. If you had the better console you'd be able to see how the setup works and maybe not embarrass yourself by claiming:

The only thing '3D sound' can do with 2 speakers is add reverb, pan, eq and volume difference to give the impression of it, to very limited results.
Also it's "know" not "no" nothing...

:lol: used to love this show. How's it hold up?
 
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Still winging it, don't lash out because you got shown up :lol:

I used to be a sound engineer too as if that means anything. You were the one unaware of how they simulate sound with 2 speakers. If you had the better console you'd be able to see how the setup works and maybe not embarrass yourself by claiming:



Also it's "know" not "no" nothing...



:lol: used to love this show. How's it hold up?
You take this all far too seriously.

That’s a completely novel way of simulating sound with a sound bar you loon. Hardly the norm. And it’s nothing to do with what the ps5 does. You claimed it does something special then couldn’t explain why. You still can’t.

Thanks for the spelling tips. Some of us are taking a min out of work and typing fast, not smoking weed all day. These things happen.
 

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You take this all far too seriously.

That’s a completely novel way of simulating sound with a sound bar you loon. Hardly the norm. And it’s nothing to do with what the ps5 does. You claimed it does something special then couldn’t explain why. You still can’t.

Thanks for the spelling tips. Some of us are taking a min out of work and typing fast, not smoking weed all day. These things happen.
Soundbar, TV speakers, headphones, binaural... All the same thing right? 2 speakers simulating 3d audio. We're yet to see how well they implement that on speaker bars and multiple speaker setups but we know it's possible right? We've all experienced it, plus some accounts of it sounding ok over the TV speakers... So it should work right, nothing special, only what they claimed, full 3D using their Tempest engine. I think you'll find that's all I, and they promised. Your overstating this... Let's move on now it's getting boring.

I'm gonna have a few puffs at lunch btw, I bet you heard me talking about vaping and made all sorts of assumptions... Any more? :lol:
 

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Yeah, that's good monitor and up there with some of the best around that price range. Not sure if it's still working but I was looking at it the other day and code DAE40S at the checkout on the Dell store reduced the price to £266 a few days ago.
Thanks , will take a look.
 

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Its ok for the price but its HDR performance isn't great which i feel should be essential if you are mainly using it for console.

If budget can be stretched the Samsung Odyssey G7 is probs one of the best around but over £200 more

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0866C9XJM?tag=rtings-u-mn-21&ie=UTF8

Tbf though HDR on most monitors is trash compared to tv's the peak brightness is just miles off
 
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Im grinding through Demons Souls. Having a love/hate time thus far. Griveances come from the distance you have to traverse everytime you die, particularly in a boss battle, and the short cuts being more like medium cuts. And everthing can be so confusing so making your back to the boss and remembering the correct path can be a challenge unto itself. Defo the hardest Soulsborne to date.
 

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How do you go about setting it up properly?
If you're lucky your TV is on rtings.com for best settings. If not, avforums is probably the best place to search for TV settings. Just search for your TV model.

Honestly though, HDR was designed for a brightness of 1,000 nits and relatively few TV's reach that at the moment. HDR a long way below that is more marketing unfortunately. OLED is a bit different though and doesn't need as bright.