Martial agent looking for a new club for him

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Once Rashford and Cavani are back from injury, he won’t even get in the match day squad. He needs to be prepared to play for the U23s and prove himself.
 

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Looking at a 27 million pound fee, maybe five million more in ad ons. 50 million no one will touch him.
 

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He needs to resurrect his career in the Bundesliga where there's minimal scrutiny and more so with Dortmund if they can afford his wages.
 

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Everton, Arsenal, Lyon or Inter are probably our best options for flogging him.
For mid table club like Everton and Arsenal, they need fighters to fight and chase for every ball. France with all the talents can carry Martial, but not Everton, Arsenal or Aston Villa. Arsenal couldn't carry Ozil and Everton couldn't with James. No one bar PSG, Chelsea, Man City can afford his salary either. Inter's chinese owner is close to bankruptcy now and won't pump money to the club anymore. Martial doesn't have the work rate and fight in him to play for mid table club in EPL i am afraid.

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I would take Daniel James instead of Martial, just like what Leeds united did. For the money 50m quoted for Martial and his wages, I would go for Adama Traore instead.
 
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I think the ideal position for him would be to take the wage cut and try get to a side that play some good football but are lower down in terms of both status and expectation. An Atalanta, Lyon type of vibe. Spend the next 18-24 months raising his CV back up and he's 27 with the stats that are far more appealing to another bigger side.

How realistic that is... Probably not very. We gave him the mental wages, he's entitled to sit on his arse on it. How interested those types of club would be too, eh...
 

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For mid table club like Everton and Arsenal, they need fighters to fight and chase for every ball. France with all the talents can carry Martial, but not Everton, Arsenal or Aston Villa. Arsenal couldn't carry Ozil and Everton couldn't with James. No one bar PSG, Chelsea, Man City can afford his salary either. Inter's chinese owner is close to bankruptcy now and won't pump money to the club anymore. Martial doesn't have the work rate and fight in him to play for mid table club in EPL i am afraid.

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I would take Daniel James instead of Martial, just like what Leeds united did. For the money 50m quoted for Martial and his wages, I would go for Adama Traore instead.
To be clear, I don't think Arsenal need Martial but I do think that Edu and the gang are clueless enough to panic into buying Martial if he was offered at a decent price. If Arsenal's new transfer strategy is going to stick then there's no chance he'd end up there.
 

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Barcelona could do with a player capable of producing magic, and we are not asking for that much.
Or throw in a waddle of cash on top and get Frenkie de Jong (not likely I know).
 

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Martial's dribbling most definitely isn't shite, especially not for a striker. It's not the most refined, but his use of the ball when moving used to be really effective - he was agile and was able to burst past defenders with ease. His passing is also more than adequate and he's able to link up play productively when in the mood. We've seen how good he can be, he's demonstrated his ability and quality numerous times here. The problem with Martial is in his head but it's such a problem that it's massively debilitating. There's no need to revise his talent, that's not the issue. Unfortunately he's lost his way massively and he needs to go elsewhere to give himself the best chance of having a career that he can look back on and be proud of.
He used to be able to dribble. How often does he actually do it and when was the last time he did effectively and regularly? The occasional successful dribble isn’t evidence of somebody really talented at it.

His passing is mediocre at best. His ability has been shown sporadically over 6 years. Which is why I question how ‘talented’ he actually is.
 
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For mid table club like Everton and Arsenal, they need fighters to fight and chase for every ball. France with all the talents can carry Martial, but not Everton, Arsenal or Aston Villa. Arsenal couldn't carry Ozil and Everton couldn't with James. No one bar PSG, Chelsea, Man City can afford his salary either. Inter's chinese owner is close to bankruptcy now and won't pump money to the club anymore. Martial doesn't have the work rate and fight in him to play for mid table club in EPL i am afraid.

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I would take Daniel James instead of Martial, just like what Leeds united did. For the money 50m quoted for Martial and his wages, I would go for Adama Traore instead.
Ouch :lol: And from an Arsenal fan nonetheless

But what you said is true. Midtable clubs need players who run their heart out since they cant compete with the talent of the bigger clubs, cant have lazy sods like Martial stroll around up top.

Even then, Everton, Villa, Arsenal and pretty much everyone in the PL have better players than the current version of Martial. Ask a Leeds fan if they would swap Martial for Bamford or ask a Newcastle fan if they would swap Saint Maximin for Martial and im pretty sure they would laugh in your face
 

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Ouch :lol: And from an Arsenal fan nonetheless

But what you said is true. Midtable clubs need players who run their heart out since they cant compete with the talent of the bigger clubs, cant have lazy sods like Martial stroll around up top.

Even then, Everton, Villa, Arsenal and pretty much everyone in the PL have better players than the current version of Martial. Ask a Leeds fan if they would swap Martial for Bamford or ask a Newcastle fan if they would swap Saint Maximin for Martial and im pretty sure they would laugh in your face
we finished 8th for the past 2 season and it is a fact. At this moment Arsenal is a mid table club. We need players to fight for every ball.
 

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I think the ideal position for him would be to take the wage cut and try get to a side that play some good football but are lower down in terms of both status and expectation. An Atalanta, Lyon type of vibe. Spend the next 18-24 months raising his CV back up and he's 27 with the stats that are far more appealing to another bigger side.

How realistic that is... Probably not very. We gave him the mental wages, he's entitled to sit on his arse on it. How interested those types of club would be too, eh...
I do wonder why players don't take a wage cut and play instead of sitting on the bench? Surely they should have some pride in themselves. It's not that getting 50k a week is not going to make them starve?
 

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I do wonder why players don't take a wage cut and play instead of sitting on the bench? Surely they should have some pride in themselves. It's not that getting 50k a week is not going to make them starve?
You've answered your own question.

I fully understand why they would stay
 

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I do wonder why players don't take a wage cut and play instead of sitting on the bench? Surely they should have some pride in themselves. It's not that getting 50k a week is not going to make them starve?
It is a job at the end of the day with a very short shelf life. £50k fewer might not make him starve, but it’s a lot of fecking money.
 

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I do wonder why players don't take a wage cut and play instead of sitting on the bench? Surely they should have some pride in themselves. It's not that getting 50k a week is not going to make them starve?
Money.
If you get 250k pw and by taking a paycut you still get 200k pw, then it seems fine. But if you know when you move out you will get only 100k, maybe bench doesn't look that bad.

Different players, different needs.
 

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We'll struggle and his agent will struggle to find any club to take on his 250k a week wages. Even 200k a week is alot.

Unfortunately what will happen is utd will supplement his wages if he goes elsewhere. This club never learns under woodward does it?
 

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Barcelona could do with a player capable of producing magic, and we are not asking for that much.
Or throw in a waddle of cash on top and get Frenkie de Jong (not likely I know).
Barcelona have Memphis and Ansu Fati in that position and even if they did not have them they would not go for Martial
 

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I always said he was overrated and was always right then 2 seasons ago he looked like he stepped up, was proving me wrong and the caf jumped on me for anytime I criticised him.
But it’s obvious now and even though you can say Mourinho held him back it was one thing he was right about.

He’s so short on confidence and the player we are seeing is not the real him but even the real him isn’t good enough for us and finally he can’t hide behind his age
 

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Watching last night was ridiculously frustrating. Surely Tony knows the labelling of him as someone who doesn’t seem to give much of a toss during a game, which you would imagine would propel him to dispel that image. He never seems to do so however. He is becoming more Ozil day by day!
 

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Wow, how fickle fans are eh. :lol:
It's been over a year of horrendous performances.

He's been a disgrace.

He's been here long enough now, it's not worked out and he's not the player we thought he would be, we need to move him on. Nothing fickle about that.
 

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I would not mind if he was actually playing for United. But in reality, he is just in the starting lineup. Very little actual playing.
Even when playing he has not been playing, how many times have the midfielders tried and send him a ball and he was late?
I am one of those praising Ole for getting more out of players, but Anthony is not one he has succeeded with. It would be best for all that he moves on.
 

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I do hope reporter asked such question to Ole: what happened with Martial last season ? Two season ago he was definitely trending toward a proper No.9 for us, and I still can recall his header of typical No.9 style from Wan-Bissaka 's cross against Chelsea which helped us win the game, and his 1st hat-trick against Sheffield United at ease. We can talk about all crap against him for his current terrible form, but it's unfair to say he never was a No.9 material.

If Martial suffered depression or any psychological illness (quite likely caused by the pandemic and social lockdown), this should be a good timing that we release him from duty to properly treat it, and come back with full passion towards the games. From it appeared, Martial has lost passion and indifferent towards the games and results, which is a very typical syndrome of depression. Ole could disclose this so that crowd can stop guessing and harshly criticizing his performance (which could further worsen his case), then give some time and room for his recovery.
 

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We stopped being a counter attacking team.

Much more of a lower block played vs us and you need to be quick and on your feet and intelligent to break that.

With his lack of consistent matches and confidence- he isn't going to be able to beat defenders like he used to during the 2 average counter attacks we have a game.
 

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It's been over a year of horrendous performances.

He's been a disgrace.

He's been here long enough now, it's not worked out and he's not the player we thought he would be, we need to move him on. Nothing fickle about that.
Bit strong. Your sentence after is far more fair.
 

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Bit strong. Your sentence after is far more fair.
It is strong but I do think his lack of interest and effort has been disgraceful at times.

I think back to certain performances, Sheff Utd at home last season in particular, where he looked like he didn't give a feck.
 

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Ole needs to drop him for a very long time. Playing him is not doing anyone any favours. It’s just getting in the way of younger players developing
 

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Except that I didn't find anything positive about his performance, so please, learn to read before quoting me again. My point is, he has hardly played this season, we fielded a side full of players who have done so. Given that OGS isn't the greatest tactician amongst coaches, it was a game that was destined to fail. Take into account that even at full strength, we were a penalty save away from drawing with this team at the weekend and you have to put player performances into context.
Quite the first post on your part. :)
Mate, no we weren't. We won a game despite a bought off ref. If that's a pen we should've had 2 as well.