I think £15m loan with obligation to buy is the best shot we have when you consider his wagesLooking at a 27 million pound fee, maybe five million more in ad ons. 50 million no one will touch him.
I would not mind if he was actually playing for United. But in reality, he is just in the starting lineup. Very little actual playing.I never want to see him playing again for United.
For mid table club like Everton and Arsenal, they need fighters to fight and chase for every ball. France with all the talents can carry Martial, but not Everton, Arsenal or Aston Villa. Arsenal couldn't carry Ozil and Everton couldn't with James. No one bar PSG, Chelsea, Man City can afford his salary either. Inter's chinese owner is close to bankruptcy now and won't pump money to the club anymore. Martial doesn't have the work rate and fight in him to play for mid table club in EPL i am afraid.Everton, Arsenal, Lyon or Inter are probably our best options for flogging him.
true storyI would not mind if he was actually playing for United. But in reality, he is just in the starting lineup. Very little actual playing.
To be clear, I don't think Arsenal need Martial but I do think that Edu and the gang are clueless enough to panic into buying Martial if he was offered at a decent price. If Arsenal's new transfer strategy is going to stick then there's no chance he'd end up there.For mid table club like Everton and Arsenal, they need fighters to fight and chase for every ball. France with all the talents can carry Martial, but not Everton, Arsenal or Aston Villa. Arsenal couldn't carry Ozil and Everton couldn't with James. No one bar PSG, Chelsea, Man City can afford his salary either. Inter's chinese owner is close to bankruptcy now and won't pump money to the club anymore. Martial doesn't have the work rate and fight in him to play for mid table club in EPL i am afraid.
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I would take Daniel James instead of Martial, just like what Leeds united did. For the money 50m quoted for Martial and his wages, I would go for Adama Traore instead.
He used to be able to dribble. How often does he actually do it and when was the last time he did effectively and regularly? The occasional successful dribble isn’t evidence of somebody really talented at it.Martial's dribbling most definitely isn't shite, especially not for a striker. It's not the most refined, but his use of the ball when moving used to be really effective - he was agile and was able to burst past defenders with ease. His passing is also more than adequate and he's able to link up play productively when in the mood. We've seen how good he can be, he's demonstrated his ability and quality numerous times here. The problem with Martial is in his head but it's such a problem that it's massively debilitating. There's no need to revise his talent, that's not the issue. Unfortunately he's lost his way massively and he needs to go elsewhere to give himself the best chance of having a career that he can look back on and be proud of.
21/22/23 with add ons i feel.I think £15m loan with obligation to buy is the best shot we have when you consider his wages
As long as it's not a player of the year or top goal scorer clause because we'll never see that money21/22/23 with add ons i feel.
Ouch And from an Arsenal fan nonethelessFor mid table club like Everton and Arsenal, they need fighters to fight and chase for every ball. France with all the talents can carry Martial, but not Everton, Arsenal or Aston Villa. Arsenal couldn't carry Ozil and Everton couldn't with James. No one bar PSG, Chelsea, Man City can afford his salary either. Inter's chinese owner is close to bankruptcy now and won't pump money to the club anymore. Martial doesn't have the work rate and fight in him to play for mid table club in EPL i am afraid.
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I would take Daniel James instead of Martial, just like what Leeds united did. For the money 50m quoted for Martial and his wages, I would go for Adama Traore instead.
we finished 8th for the past 2 season and it is a fact. At this moment Arsenal is a mid table club. We need players to fight for every ball.Ouch And from an Arsenal fan nonetheless
But what you said is true. Midtable clubs need players who run their heart out since they cant compete with the talent of the bigger clubs, cant have lazy sods like Martial stroll around up top.
Even then, Everton, Villa, Arsenal and pretty much everyone in the PL have better players than the current version of Martial. Ask a Leeds fan if they would swap Martial for Bamford or ask a Newcastle fan if they would swap Saint Maximin for Martial and im pretty sure they would laugh in your face
I do wonder why players don't take a wage cut and play instead of sitting on the bench? Surely they should have some pride in themselves. It's not that getting 50k a week is not going to make them starve?I think the ideal position for him would be to take the wage cut and try get to a side that play some good football but are lower down in terms of both status and expectation. An Atalanta, Lyon type of vibe. Spend the next 18-24 months raising his CV back up and he's 27 with the stats that are far more appealing to another bigger side.
How realistic that is... Probably not very. We gave him the mental wages, he's entitled to sit on his arse on it. How interested those types of club would be too, eh...
You've answered your own question.I do wonder why players don't take a wage cut and play instead of sitting on the bench? Surely they should have some pride in themselves. It's not that getting 50k a week is not going to make them starve?
Fickle? He has been a much discussed subject for yearsWow, how fickle fans are eh.
It is a job at the end of the day with a very short shelf life. £50k fewer might not make him starve, but it’s a lot of fecking money.I do wonder why players don't take a wage cut and play instead of sitting on the bench? Surely they should have some pride in themselves. It's not that getting 50k a week is not going to make them starve?
Money.I do wonder why players don't take a wage cut and play instead of sitting on the bench? Surely they should have some pride in themselves. It's not that getting 50k a week is not going to make them starve?
Barcelona have Memphis and Ansu Fati in that position and even if they did not have them they would not go for MartialBarcelona could do with a player capable of producing magic, and we are not asking for that much.
Or throw in a waddle of cash on top and get Frenkie de Jong (not likely I know).
It's been over a year of horrendous performances.Wow, how fickle fans are eh.
Even when playing he has not been playing, how many times have the midfielders tried and send him a ball and he was late?I would not mind if he was actually playing for United. But in reality, he is just in the starting lineup. Very little actual playing.
Bit strong. Your sentence after is far more fair.It's been over a year of horrendous performances.
He's been a disgrace.
He's been here long enough now, it's not worked out and he's not the player we thought he would be, we need to move him on. Nothing fickle about that.
It’s not really fickle when it’s been this way for the best part of 2 years.Wow, how fickle fans are eh.
It is strong but I do think his lack of interest and effort has been disgraceful at times.Bit strong. Your sentence after is far more fair.
Mate, no we weren't. We won a game despite a bought off ref. If that's a pen we should've had 2 as well.Except that I didn't find anything positive about his performance, so please, learn to read before quoting me again. My point is, he has hardly played this season, we fielded a side full of players who have done so. Given that OGS isn't the greatest tactician amongst coaches, it was a game that was destined to fail. Take into account that even at full strength, we were a penalty save away from drawing with this team at the weekend and you have to put player performances into context.
Quite the first post on your part.