Old Trafford is not the place for that kind of football I don't think. Direct attacking football is what we've always played and it's what our squad is set up for too. Trying to go back to "philosophy football" is not going to work and we can't afford the luxury of building a whole new squad, nor the time to do it.
Zinedine Zidane - 3 time CL winning manager without a job
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It seems as though unless you have a style that’s patently obvious — pressing like mad men or keeping absurd amounts of possession — you’re a manager without tactical nous or a specific style.
Thanks, good to know.
I think half seasons are really difficult to read into, as the new manager bounce often leads to a noticeable uptick in results, see Tuchel, Ole, every relegation battle, etc.
I rate Zidane highly, he did brilliantly with RM, and I do wonder if he could do similar with us.
Which one could get to OT quicker?
Shame if so. Simeone would be another who might be able to make our squad work, albeit I'd have less confidence in that.
Tbh, even if Zidane is just waiting for the France job I'd take 18 months of him and a couple of trophies. Someone else might emerge in the meantime. Not like Ole wouldn't come back if we needed him anyway I don't think. Big clubs won't be queuing up for him.
I love him both as player and manager. Best player I have ever seen play regularly. A joy to watch. A lesson how football should be played (as player).
However, those who are obsessed with philosophies and patterns of play, will not be pleased with him.
As far as I am concerned we need to win something big now, so he should come, sign a midfielder in Jan and things might look really good hopefully, as I would hate it if we destroyed his reputation.
However, those who are obsessed with philosophies and patterns of play, will not be pleased with him.
As far as I am concerned we need to win something big now, so he should come, sign a midfielder in Jan and things might look really good hopefully, as I would hate it if we destroyed his reputation.
Bloody hell if Zidane is a fraud for winning three back to back CL's with a great squad you have to wonder what Pep Guardiola is then.
I think it is the way they played, Madrid that is. It wasnt from what i saw Pep or Nagglesman or Tuchel. It was relying on very good individuals. Granted i did not see them much, but i did that is what stood out.
They were lucky in one CL i recall i think against Bayern. Vidal got sent off when he shouldnt have. Then they got a penalty for them was it against Juve or Bayern. Now you need luck. Terry slipped to miss his kick against us.
I personally would prefer someone who plays like Pep. So maybe Ten Hag. Posters also mentioning Potter, but i dont watch Brighton enough to know about him. I saw Ten Hag though with Ajax in the CL and they were brilliant. Should really have won against Spurs.
That's what I saw,.While he doesn't have a strong philosophy and will stick to his players strength, I don't think that there is a single manager more impactful during games. I don't even who would be a good example in the past, probably one of the top italian managers.
We will never have a manager like Pep, at least not planned. City were planning for him since Pellegrini.
Even if we get a philosophy manager like LvG, it will not be because we always wanted it, but rather by luck or availability.
And when this manager fails we will go for a completely different style like we did with Mourinho.
You need a very strong and involved board if you want to dictate a style of play and then hire managers accordingly. This is not us.
That’s why someone like Zidane would be more suitable for us.
I couldn’t give a piss about his reputation. I’d want him to win something for the club, not for him.
Ok Mr. obvious.
You took it as a personal insult?
Naggelsman has won jackshit at the top level and Tuchel won a CL by parking the bus with 30% possession. Not exactly football champagne.
I’m confused. Where’s the insult I could have taken, or expressed.You took it as a personal insult?
That’s hardly “mr obvious” to be fair, you stated pretty clearly that you are worried what the club would do to his reputation, shouldn’t your concern be what he can do for the club’s reputation? Unless one cares more about the individual than the club
I want United to win. And I don’t want us to destroy Zidane’s reputation (he is actually the only non United manager I ever liked - all the others I mostly want to lose).
Hoping for both is possible at the same time.
If he actually comes to United then of course it will be about United. This should be obvious.
I still care more about him and thus his reputation than Jose for example, nothing wrong about it. This just means that I would be more disappointed if it doesn’t work out with him (unlike Jose who I never wanted at the club).
I was joking about your fiery answer.
To be fair, if United hired him i'm pretty sure he'd win them the league. Or the CL. At least one or the other, within 2 years
Let‘s face it, it’d be impossible for Zidane not to do better than Ole.
Zidane in now!
Zidane in now!
I think so too.
Do you think? Do you think he’s that good of a manager?
Obviously. Seriously. You don't win everything he's won without being an exceptional manager
#zINedINe
A few month later: #ZizOut
#baldfraud
Leave Guardiola out of this.
Well, make it happen United. I want to see how that post holds up.
-he said, hoping for ample grounds for gloating in the future.
A bayern fan wanting to gloat against Zidane. What could possibly go wrong
Hmm, should we roll the dice on a proven serial CL and league title winner or stick with what we know in a failing manager who has won us feck all over three years? Never mind, we know which one United will choose.
I'm fully prepared to deny this whole conversation.A bayern fan wanting to gloat against Zidane. What could possibly go wrong
They are still bitter he knocked them out of the CL twice and won 3 in a row.A bayern fan wanting to gloat against Zidane. What could possibly go wrong
Yes we are. We were the better team, we were robbed two years in a row, and we will continue to be bitter, if it's all the same to you.
But you don't get prime Ronaldo, Modric, Kroos, Casemiro, Marcelo, Ramos, Carvajal, Benzema or Bale with Zidane though. All of those are better than what we have in their respective positions.
Them three used just run the MF. We have nothing compared to them in MF.
I believe he's worth rolling the dice on, even if he doesn't have the midfield like he did in Madrid. He's a proven winner both as a player and manager, and one of the few personalities in the football world currently on the "market" that can tame this dressing room ego.
It's becoming increasingly clear that Ole has taken this squad to the maximum of his ability but that maximum is not good enough.
The only real question mark is if he has any interest in joining us and take a gamble on his legacy.
It's becoming increasingly clear that Ole has taken this squad to the maximum of his ability but that maximum is not good enough.
The only real question mark is if he has any interest in joining us and take a gamble on his legacy.
Where is the risk really? I don't think he could do a worse job, and the language barrier is not a big deal. He's someone so intelligent tactically, he'll definitely improve on game-time decisions over what we've seen from Ole and he'll command far more respect. I think the job would be attractive to him, but I don't know if his family will enjoy living in Manchester, I think if there's any challenges to bringing him in, it's will be due to the family more than his own personal desire. I don't think the France NT is coming for another year at least and I'm not sure he still wants to wait until then.
Zidane is a legend and has done well for Real too.
But we have a manager and I don't think he will get the sack.
Stand by the manager and lets see after December how we are.
Some need to calm down a bit
But we have a manager and I don't think he will get the sack.
Stand by the manager and lets see after December how we are.
Some need to calm down a bit
I believe Zidane would fancy more going to manage Juventus than coming to England. And the Juve job is very possible in the near future as the things didnt start quite well for Allegri there...