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Sat, 02 October 2021

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No, I mean the bottler who despite spending - what? - 80+% of each of the last 2 seasons in the top 4 has thrown it away at the end. And the manager who looks even less equipped at handling Europe than our current one.

By your logic Arteta would be an improvement too.
Leicester City are punching above their weight, that’s the difference. £400 million spent and we’re possibly a top 4 club and not a title contender. The fact that it’s even a debate who’s better is comical. Rodgers is the superior manager by far, has the record to prove it and trophies to his resume. He’s also taken a team closer to the title than Ole ever could.

FYI, that shower of shite Arsenal are 2 points behind us with a win today.
 

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Not sure he realises that the midfield is supposed to link the defence with the attack. Problem is our midfield links the wrong attack.
I have been Ole in for a long time and he will always be a legend but he is losing me. I can’t believe why he keeps play Fred. I can understand Fred of last season but this year so far he has been absolutely terrible. I don’t mind if DVB goes in Jan but he certainly can’t do worse than Fred right now. McT is what he is and at least offers physicality. I really worry for Ole because during the international break the pressure is really going to build and we now have a tough slate of games coming up. What is obvious is that he can’t keep going like this.
 

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I liked how United played today. Long may this continue.

There are still many more games to go. Do not despair.

Or do, if your passion is whining.

My passion has been whining for weeks now.
 

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I have been Ole in for a long time and he will always be a legend but he is losing me. I can’t believe why he keeps play Fred. I can understand Fred of last season but this year so far he has been absolutely terrible. I don’t mind if DVB goes in Jan but he certainly can’t do worse than Fred right now. McT is what he is and at least offers physicality. I really worry for Ole because during the international break the pressure is really going to build and we now have a tough slate of games coming up. What is obvious is that he can’t keep going like this.
If our players go away and perform well in cohesive units then people will ask why he cannot get a consistant tune out of them.
 

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I have been Ole in for a long time and he will always be a legend but he is losing me. I can’t believe why he keeps play Fred. I can understand Fred of last season but this year so far he has been absolutely terrible. I don’t mind if DVB goes in Jan but he certainly can’t do worse than Fred right now. McT is what he is and at least offers physicality. I really worry for Ole because during the international break the pressure is really going to build and we now have a tough slate of games coming up. What is obvious is that he can’t keep going like this.
If that had been Scotty on Gray, the guy would have been shoved into the crowd...
 

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Disappointing result so naturally the mood here is dire but I’m reminding myself that we did not lose, played some decent stuff in the first half and if this is our dip in the season, let’s get it over with soon. Ole will surely only come under serious pressure if we fail to get out of the group stage in the champs league and are mid-table at end of year. Alternatively I live in hope that by then we’re in a better place. You have to continue believing…..Most annoying today (other than getting up at dawn to watch this and have my weekend enthusiasm drained by 9am) was that equalizer….they made mugs of our defenders so I hope that’s on replay in training and next time we take a booking. Hate seeing opposition players smiling coming off our ground. No idea why Ole is grinning, I always took solace from knowing Fergie was even more upset than me when results did not go our way. Anyway, we drew, played ok in parts…move on.
 

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Martial had a knock I think. Shame as he was playing well, saw plenty of the ball in the first half.

No idea about Cavani though.
Probably Ronny saying to Ole “I want in”. Cavani should have never came off as he was pressuring the defence. People say we are not scoring but we were creating chances, and our defence was not that bad. What is clear as day is that our midfield was not good enough again, both offensively and defensively. OGS must stop persisting with McFred. That paring is not working this year.
 

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Lots of things wrong with that performance.

Really needed all three points today - can't keep throwing away points like that, we'll find ourselves hopelessly adrift soon.
 

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Gotta love Goodridge's reaction - point out Ole's mistakes for half hour yet say Ole out is not a discussion as it won't happen. Ya but it SHOULD happen.

He never mentions what he thinks
should happen to Ole because he's too scared to say a legend should be sacked.

Too much top reddery. Ole will always be a legend no matter what.
 

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Has anyone been able to name a Man of the Match - I'm having real trouble. Possibly Bruno but leaning towards Lindelof of Edi... but not sure anyone deserves it
 

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I was worried about our record of never losing at Old Trafford if we are leading at half time… I waa so relived we managed to keep that record. That and our away record are the only things we have to play for now
 

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Gotta love Goodridge's reaction - point out Ole's mistakes for half hour yet say Ole out is not a discussion as it won't happen. Ya but it SHOULD happen.

He never mentions what he thinks
should happen to Ole because he's too scared to say a legend should be sacked.

Too much top reddery. Ole will always be a legend no matter what.
Why are you watching Goldbridge and then complaining about it?

Goldbridge is a nobody. His opinion has no impact on anything apart from you apparently.
 

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Leicester City are punching above their weight, that’s the difference. £400 million spent and we’re possibly a top 4 club and not a title contender. The fact that it’s even a debate who’s better is comical. Rodgers is the superior manager by far, has the record to prove it and trophies to his resume. He’s also taken a team closer to the title than Ole ever could.

FYI, that shower of shite Arsenal are 2 points behind us with a win today.
that last line speaks volumes...
 

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Why are you watching Goldbridge and then complaining about it?

Goldbridge is a nobody. His opinion has no impact on anything apart from you apparently.
umm who is Goldbridge?
 

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If our players go away and perform well in cohesive units then people will ask why he cannot get a consistant tune out of them.
Before this season there were obvious gaps in our team. As much as Glazers are loathsome and for obvious selfish preservation they backed OGS this summer. I hate to say it but whether is tactics, coaching or just getting consistency out of players, OGS is coming off as lacking. Can we find him a Queiroz or Meulensteen fast…. This team with this talent should not be playing this badly.
 

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Before this season there were obvious gaps in our team. As much as Glazers are loathsome and for obvious selfish preservation they backed OGS this summer. I hate to say it but whether is tactics, coaching or just getting consistency out of players, OGS is coming off as lacking. Can we find him a Queiroz or Meulensteen fast…. This team with this talent should not be playing this badly.
If they won't sack him they have to do something along those lines. All of them are out of their depth.
 

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I'm watching Chelsea V Southampton now. 70mins in and it's 1-1 at the Bridge. Let's see how Tuchel does in comparison to Ole.

Straight away, Chelsea have tactical subs made and are looking threatening. My feeling is that they will score.
 

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I'm watching Chelsea V Southampton now. 70mins in and it's 1-1 at the Bridge. Let's see how Tuchel does in comparison to Ole.

Straight away, Chelsea have tactical subs made and are looking threatening. My feeling is that they will score.
Southampton down to ten men as well now.
 

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Ronaldo has been brilliant but the bigger picture is there's an ego there that Ole doesn't have the experience in managing, and from the outside it looks like its having a negative effect on the team overall.

The Cavani substitute today was a strange one for example, for me he was our biggest threat and was working so hard leading the line, even if the plan was to introduce Ronaldo at some point, to do it after 55 minutes, was clearly bowing down to the fact that Ole feels like he must have Ronaldo on the pitch and Cavani was visibly annoyed at being subbed so early. I thought it was disrespectful so he must have felt the same. Also Pogba in mid-week was also visibly annoyed at being subbed off, clearly they've all moved down the pecking order, now CR7 is back, and it doesn't look very coherent at all to me.

Each player needs to understand that the club and team are bigger than any individual, and overall I think Ole has done a good job of rebuilding the squad, but I am starting to wonder if the CR7 return could be the downfall of his project..

There's only one way this squad wins the Premier League this season - by bringing in a strong manager, experienced in game management, and adding a killer mentality. No way should Everton have got anything from todays game, but in the end, we are lucky to have got away with a draw. Dont want Ole sacked but...
 

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Probably Ronny saying to Ole “I want in”. Cavani should have never came off as he was pressuring the defence. People say we are not scoring but we were creating chances, and our defence was not that bad. What is clear as day is that our midfield was not good enough again, both offensively and defensively. OGS must stop persisting with McFred. That paring is not working this year.
Could be right. Cavani changed it on Wednesday too putting pressure on defence, Ronaldo won't do that.

Fred's passing looked good for the first 25/30 minutes, but that's it. Still can't believe Donny couldn't get a game today.
 

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Ronaldo has been brilliant but the bigger picture is there's an ego there that Ole doesn't have the experience in managing, and from the outside it looks like its having a negative effect on the team overall.

The Cavani substitute today was a strange one for example, for me he was our biggest threat and was working so hard leading the line, even if the plan was to introduce Ronaldo at some point, to do it after 55 minutes, was clearly bowing down to the fact that Ole feels like he must have Ronaldo on the pitch and Cavani was visibly annoyed at being subbed so early. I thought it was disrespectful so he must have felt the same. Also Pogba in mid-week was also visibly annoyed at being subbed off, clearly they've all moved down the pecking order, now CR7 is back, and it doesn't look very coherent at all to me.

Each player needs to understand that the club and team are bigger than any individual, and overall I think Ole has done a good job of rebuilding the squad, but I am starting to wonder if the CR7 return could be the downfall of his project..

There's only one way this squad wins the Premier League this season - by bringing in a strong manager, experienced in game management, and adding a killer mentality. No way should Everton have got anything from todays game, but in the end, we are lucky to have got away with a draw. Dont want Ole sacked but...
Also, if you have Cavani and Ronaldo on at the same time, the defence has two world-classers to deal with - worked on Wednesday night. I simply don't believe that Cavani isn't fit enough to play 90 mins. He looks as fit as ronnie
 

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just seen the stats for the game, we had more than double the amount of possession but only 1 more shot. that's quite damning.

Possession Home72% Away28%
Shots Home13 Away12
Shots on Target Home 6 Away 2
Corners Home10 Away1
Fouls Home10 Away 9
 

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Could be right. Cavani changed it on Wednesday too putting pressure on defence, Ronaldo won't do that.

Fred's passing looked good for the first 25/30 minutes, but that's it. Still can't believe Donny couldn't get a game today.
Donny is done and clearly not going to have a career here. Ole is displaying a very stubborn streak which is not serving him well. But maybe he can at least put DVB in the shop window and at least see for a couple of games whether DVB can cut it. I have no love for DVB because he really hasn’t played enough but for OGS to persist with McFred is actually harming his own interests.
 

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just seen the stats for the game, we had more than double the amount of possession but only 1 more shot. that's quite damning.

Possession Home72% Away28%
Shots Home13 Away12
Shots on Target Home 6 Away 2
Corners Home10 Away1
Fouls Home10 Away 9
Everton got more from our corner than their own!
 

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He has to go now. Such a shame as he's built a really good squad but he's not the man to get the most from it
 

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just seen the stats for the game, we had more than double the amount of possession but only 1 more shot. that's quite damning.

Possession Home72% Away28%
Shots Home13 Away12
Shots on Target Home 6 Away 2
Corners Home10 Away1
Fouls Home10 Away 9
They scored as a result of one of our corners didn't they? 28% possession and still get 12 chances.
 

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just seen the stats for the game, we had more than double the amount of possession but only 1 more shot. that's quite damning.

Possession Home72% Away28%
Shots Home13 Away12
Shots on Target Home 6 Away 2
Corners Home 0 Away11
Fouls Home10 Away 9
Corrected it for you.
 

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All that possession against a Benitez side and yet only create one more chance than them. That's the only stat the higher ups need to put us all out of our misery and make the switch of managers.
 

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Shots on Target
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