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He said it was because none of the European giants came for him and he wasn't willing to leave Al Ahly for a middle of the pack European club which was understandable in a way because he was pretty advanced in age when he started ruling African football. He moved to Al Ahly at 26 years of age, before that he wasn't even being selected for the national team, after he signed for them he was the best player in the country and on the continent immediately.

You're clearly commenting from an ignorant standpoint. Do yourself a favour and catch one of his matches in his prime.
Look fair enough I don’t know much about him and I’m not going to pretend I do but I don’t feel calling a player who has 131 goals in 210 game while winning the PL and CL outrageous or controversial.
Also about your other comment Klose does get mentioned every WC as he is the top scorer in history and he is a hero in Germany.
 

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This guy has the real knack of being at the right place at the right time to score goals. The number of goals he manages to score off rebounds, and the little 6-yard tap-ins is insane!

Liverpool were lucky to hit the jackpot with two “average” signings - Salah and Mane, and of course the cash jackpot with Coutinho.
 

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This guy has the real knack of being at the right place at the right time to score goals. The number of goals he manages to score off rebounds, and the little 6-yard tap-ins is insane!

Liverpool were lucky to hit the jackpot with two “average” signings - Salah and Mane, and of course the cash jackpot with Coutinho.
When they signed Mane a lot of the caf wanted him he was class at Southampton. I didn’t think he be as good as he has been but he was never average
 

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This guy has the real knack of being at the right place at the right time to score goals. The number of goals he manages to score off rebounds, and the little 6-yard tap-ins is insane!

Liverpool were lucky to hit the jackpot with two “average” signings - Salah and Mane, and of course the cash jackpot with Coutinho.
Salah was already on an upward trend in Italy, scoring 14 and 15 goals in a defensive Italian league.
Place him in a Klopp team that creates more chances and allows him to play as the furthest attacker, and his goal return is not a surprise.

Same for Mane and Jota, though both are not lethal finishers unlike Salah. Maybe Jota is a better finisher than Mane. But coming from average teams that create less chances to a Klopp team that creates more chances.

It also helps, when the opposition is not focussed on you alone.

Salah is just a superior player, who has worked hard on his game and is driven. No luck in that.
 

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Salah was already on an upward trend in Italy, scoring 14 and 15 goals in a defensive Italian league.
Place him in a Klopp team that creates more chances and allows him to play as the furthest attacker, and his goal return is not a surprise.

Same for Mane and Jota, though both are not lethal finishers unlike Salah. Maybe Jota is a better finisher than Mane. But coming from average teams that create less chances to a Klopp team that creates more chances.

It also helps, when the opposition is not focussed on you alone.

Salah is just a superior player, who has worked hard on his game and is driven. No luck in that.
I think that's an outdated though process. Goals scored in Italy is up there in numbers with the PL. Salah was there between 2015-2017. In the 2016-2017 season Serie A had more goals than PL, 59 more goals that season. The season before PL had more goals. I think that defensive mindset goes back to a time when teams were ultra defensive. I know this because I had the misfortune of labelling it defensive recently with a work colleague who watches it and he grilled me
 

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I think that's an outdated though process. Goals scored in Italy is up there in numbers with the PL. Salah was there between 2015-2017. In the 2016-2017 season Serie A had more goals than PL, 59 more goals that season. The season before PL had more goals. I think that defensive mindset goes back to a time when teams were ultra defensive. I know this because I had the misfortune of labelling it defensive recently with a work colleague who watches it and he grilled me
It's definitely less open than the English league. There has been drastic fall in quality there, but that would be a recent phenomenon.
Surely it's nowhere near as defensive like in the past decade or before that, but my point was that it's definitely less open than the English league. Again when Salah played there.
 

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It depends on how you look at it. If you're from Mozambique, I can see why you might care that Eusebio is seen as a Portoguese lends and not a Mozambique one. If you're a neutral and considering this from the sidelines, I can see why you wouldn't care about any of it and just consider for which country someone played their international games.

Obviously though, football nationality is a hot mess. It would be more correct if this discussion were phrased as 'best footballer to have played for an African country' instead of 'best African footballer'. But I get why no-one can be bothered to do that.

And to be clear, I don't really care. It's just football. I'm just joining the discussion a bit.
Eusebio arrived in Portugal when he was 18, kinda an advanced age to consider him 100%
a product of portuguese football.
The case of Desailly and Makelele is different cause they live in France since kids, developed under french football system, and started their pro career in France ...hard to classify them as part of African football just because of ancestries.

Just to put an example, saying Rio can be considered a legend of irish football just because his mother is irish it's super ridiculous.
 

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If he played for us we wouldn’t be happy as it’s “moments fc” or individual brilliance.
 

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Think this season so far is the best I've seen him play.
Not quite at the level of that crazy year he had. But that goal was one of the very best I’ve seen from him. A brilliant piece of play.
 

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His consistency the last 4 years has been incredible, up there with the likes of Lewa and Messi.
 

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If he played for us we wouldn’t be happy as it’s “moments fc” or individual brilliance.
Thing with him is he creates his own moments of brilliance, rather than needing others to put it on a plate for him. He’s exactly the kind of player we need.
 

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Ah yes of course! Despite the fact he just got the ball, took on 3/4 players and banged it in all on his own!? Probably the coaching
Nonsense, other teams don't rely on individual brilliance they get results because of their finely tuned systems and patterns of play.
 

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A fantastic footballer, atleast a level above his teammate on the other wing and a much more likeable footballer.
 

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Oh bugger, even Utd fans are noticing Salah again. The diving, foreign, one season wonder, no right foot, twat. :(

Please (continue to) look the other way. Nothing to see here. :wenger: Don't want his agent and PSG getting silly ideas.
 

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Oh bugger, even Utd fans are noticing Salah again. The diving, foreign, one season wonder, no right foot, twat. :(

Please (continue to) look the other way. Nothing to see here. :wenger: Don't want his agent and PSG getting silly ideas.
He is still pretty much all that except one season wonder.
 

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Can't see us breaking the wage structure, even though the player in question is absolute world class and deserving of the wage.

And it will be scandalous, if Salah leaves because of that.