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Who's gonna tell him.. biggest tool of a utd fan on youtube. Fancies himself as a bit of a tactician too, which is hilarious.
I watch Howson and Goldbridge, mainly because they’re both fairly entertaining. Howson seems to know what he’s on about, what makes you reckon he’s a tool?
Webby and O Neil is a good one. Both used to work security at old Trafford and have good contacts with the former players. Think they now work at Hotel Football opposite the ground (but could be wrong) They regularly have Scholes, Neville on, and they are proper reds. No pretending with them
Yeah they’re good too. Can tell they’re genuine as they were getting guests like Neville and Scholes when they only had like 8k subs. Think Tony might work at Neville’s hotel? Seem to know their stuff too.
 

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I watch a bit of Rio's youtube show, but that's about it.
 

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Stretford Paddock and Webby and O’Neil are the 2 best United based Channels, also Rio’s Five channel is really good and has a lot of United centred content.

Steer well clear of United Stand and Goldbridge that channels a steaming pile of toxic shite. It’s only redeeming factor was Flex and he’s left now, although I think he may have started his own channel called United View but I haven’t checked it out yet.
Check it, United View is great. I used to watch Stratford Paddock but I found the top red looking down at others a little bit hard to take. Mark at least treats everyone as equals. As the other guy said Howson is a bit of a sanctimonious prick. I like United View best right now. Flex is just a regular fan and together with KG is super funny. Plus he brings on Rory and people to bring a more balanced view. Plus Statman Cam who really gets the tactics and gives it a new level of depth.

I also love The Kick Off for the sheer banter. Adam Mckola is way better on that than he was on Stretford or FTD.
 
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I watch a lot of the Stretford Paddock, they’re much more relatable. They sometimes have their blindspots just like anyone else, but at least they don't add to the toxic, reactionary nonsense that goes on elsewhere.

Goldbridge is all about the narrative. He senses the mood of his audience and reacts accordingly to keep the superchats rolling. He doesn’t hide the fact that “Mark Goldbridge” is an exaggerated version of his true self.
 

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Stretford Paddock is great. McKola and Howson may have the most profile, but Jay & Joe make it.
Yeah, they hold the channel together. Particularly with McKola becoming a regular part of the Kick Off. And Howson disappeared all together from Paddock for about 3 months.

Only a matter of time before Joe gets a TV or Radio gig.
 

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The United View guys (mainly Flex & KG) and McKola are the most watchable for me, good banter and level headed opinions. Goldbridge I mainly only tune in to for his content outside of United - funny enough guy but super agenda driven. Howson comes across like a bit of a twat any time i see his content.
 

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I've been listening to Mark Goldbridge, surely I'm not the only one who thinks he'd fit in well here?
He's OK half the time, and an idiot the other half.

For me Kick Off is the best, although it's wider football centric rather than United focused. That said they will talk about the current situation of all the big clubs if it's topical.

 

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I watch Howson and Goldbridge, mainly because they’re both fairly entertaining. Howson seems to know what he’s on about, what makes you reckon he’s a tool?
Sometimes you olny have to speak with conviction for people to believe your ideas. As to your question I see him as arrogant, slimey and slightly condescending to Utd fans who arent from greater Manchester. I've seen him post a lot of sh*te on twitter attacking people personally for not agreeing with his opinions, he gets nasty very quickly. I'm sure there's plenty who think he's sound but I'm not a fan personally.
 

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He wasn’t really on YouTube at the time… or if he was, nothing like the popularity it is now. This was all before and he was just trying to milk cash off gullible tourists visiting United.

Charging tourists £20 a pop each to take them around a free museum when you aren’t anything like a qualified guide… and many people would happily show people around for free. He was just a grifter ripping people off.
Still don't see the big deal, it's easy to find out that the national museum is free admission. So if people choose to pay for a tour with whoever that's their business. There are people who run all sorts of tours around Cities and/or public spaces by this logic they must be ripping people off too.
 

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Really only listen to the Stretford Paddocks newspaper round up segment they do just out of habit.

Genuinely can’t stand Goldbridge but I can sort of see the entertainment side of it for a neutral, sort of like us with AFTV. Don’t know if they have the same crew anymore but they had a bloke on there a year or two ago and he honestly might have been the weapon I’ve ever seen on these fan channels.

Like you can tell Troopz and DT love Arsenal, they might play up to the cameras every now and then but deep down they do. This guy though would look pissed off if we scored :lol: Unless it was Pogba or Martial, he really loved them two.
 

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Really only listen to the Stretford Paddocks newspaper round up segment they do just out of habit.

Genuinely can’t stand Goldbridge but I can sort of see the entertainment side of it for a neutral, sort of like us with AFTV. Don’t know if they have the same crew anymore but they had a bloke on there a year or two ago and he honestly might have been the weapon I’ve ever seen on these fan channels.

Like you can tell Troopz and DT love Arsenal, they might play up to the cameras every now and then but deep down they do. This guy though would look pissed off if we scored :lol: Unless it was Pogba or Martial, he really loved them two.
Think that's Rants you're talking about... saw a clip of him the other day talking about how he currently rates Ivan Toney over Ronaldo:lol:
 

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I watch a lot of Stretford Paddock (formerly full time Devils).

I do think Howson is a bit arrogant as some have said; I think he overplays his own tactical knowledge and insight sometimes and can be quite rude and derogatory about opinions that aren’t aligned to his.

Having said that he does make good content and has a great network now that he’s linked up with Rio on Five.

McKola is more likeable and he’s relatable because he cares a lot but he often gets stuck in a narrative (which is currently that everything is McFred’s fault). He’s also seemed to start calling everyone “bro” or “bruv” which is getting a bit annoying.

Jay is probably the best of the lot on Stretford Paddock. He’s very likeable and is much more balanced. And Joe has been a great addition too to bring a bit more humour to it and again he’s a bit more balanced and articulate than Howson and McKola.

I also watch The Kick Off and Five. The Kick Off is great and I really like the format as they have representation from different clubs. The only problem with that is that debate often escalates quickly and they end up just speaking over each other. McKola often doesn’t represent United that well in discussions because he loses his cool too quickly.

I wish they would actually put out more football content as the debates they have are more interesting than actually watching them watch a game.

Vibe with Five obviously has an advantage in having Rio and gets good guests as a result. It could be better though. I don’t think Joel brings a lot to it and it’s a bit too United-centric with Howson on there too.

Outside of those, James Alcott is good and is quite neutral as a QPR fan. And despite his allegiances I like Paul Maychin from Redmen TV.
 

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Still don't see the big deal, it's easy to find out that the national museum is free admission. So if people choose to pay for a tour with whoever that's their business. There are people who run all sorts of tours around Cities and/or public spaces by this logic they must be ripping people off too.
Not all people coming here from abroad will be aware that it’s free…

Not all tours are a rip off and I never said they were. The ones run by that grifter though… yeah they were. You’re defending him like you know him. Most reds I know think he’s a tool.
 

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Dont like Goldbridge but fair play to him for what he's built up, he was in the right place at the right time - nowadays he's just an actor with writers doing a lot of his material

Stretford Paddock is decent, at least they are proper fans

Webby& ONeill are also old school reds but their analysis is pretty basic so bit of a waste of time unless they get a guest on

We have considered going on YouTube with United Hour but probably we just stick to podcast
 

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They are all, in my opinion at least, a set of pricks, mainly profiting from spouting negativity on a club they supposedly support. Half of them (and Twitter 'united fans' too) aren't actual supporters of the club, they just know they can make money off using our name. They tend to claim their love for the club but spend most of their time creating a toxic atmosphere about anything and everything. They're not fans at all, but for some reason people actually pay attention to what they have to say, which is baffling. I think it was Red Issue who did a mini expose on a lot of them, and how they're people put in place but digital companies and paid to 'support' united on their channels. Plus didn't that Howson lad start getting a bit racist during some clip from the Europa final, something along the lines of 'those effing foreigners' or something to that effect - how are people OK with that shit?
 

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Sometimes you olny have to speak with conviction for people to believe your ideas. As to your question I see him as arrogant, slimey and slightly condescending to Utd fans who arent from greater Manchester. I've seen him post a lot of sh*te on twitter attacking people personally for not agreeing with his opinions, he gets nasty very quickly. I'm sure there's plenty who think he's sound but I'm not a fan personally.
Fair enough, he can be a bit absolute in stating what he thinks as being objective and 100% the truth, but then there’s a lot of posters on here who are the same :lol:
 

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Fair enough, he can be a bit absolute in stating what he thinks as being objective and 100% the truth, but then there’s a lot of posters on here who are the same :lol:
Wouldn't be much of a world if we all liked/disliked the same people, things etc. He's clearly done well for the fact that we even know who he is so kudos.
 

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Goldbridge has become a total tool recently, his United content is worse than some of the posts here. Flex and KG on united view are very good, balanced opinions and they vibe very well.

They discuss the games and topics like fans and realism unlike the other channels where they act as the armchair managers think they know it all.
 

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Goldbridge has become a total tool recently, his United content is worse than some of the posts here. Flex and KG on united view are very good, balanced opinions and they vibe very well.

They discuss the games and topics like fans and realism unlike the other channels where they act as the armchair managers think they know it all.
Flex is the best of a bad bunch, for sure.
 

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The whole Goldbridge thing goes completely over my head. Best of luck to the man. He's obviously raking it in and he has a cult following. If I was being paid to spout off I'd do it, most of us would. However, I don't get it at all. I can't say I've watched much of his stuff or the United Stand. But what I have seen just leaves me scratching my head.

I used to watch Stretford Paddock a lot more when it was Full Time Devils. Way back when it was the only place really where you'd see people tell the truth about what was happening with Moyes. That's how I got into it. But drifted away a lot over subsequent years. I like some of the stuff Howson puts up on his own channel. I like some of the stuff on Rio's channel, mostly listen for the United bits and United anecdotes and ignore the bits where they talk about other teams.

One thing I have taken to watching, when I have the time, is the Football Masterclass with Haider Rubbani and Rob Blanchette. I don't always agree with what they say. But I like that its not all shouting and going over the top for views. Not saying other channels are, just saying I like its not that. I generally hate seeing any kind of United content after we've had a bad result. However, after a few days once I've calmed down I know if I watch Haider and Rob it won't get me all riled up again. They'll go through the game, relatively calmly, and say what they think they saw. Doesn't always match my outlook but at least its not performance art.
 

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I quite enjoy Rio's FIVE videos. Mainly cos of him and appreciate an opinion of someone who's been there and unlike most pundits, will be a bit more candid
 

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Stretford Paddock is great. McKola and Howson may have the most profile, but Jay & Joe make it.
Yep, I agree.

Joe Smith and Jay Mottey are my two favourites. They're the most level headed of the bunch. Probably my favourite amateur football pundits on all of Youtube.

I think McKola is wrong more often than he's right. But it's difficult not to like him for his enthusiasm and pro-United bias.

Howson has a very, very forthright style. So I can see why it rubs people up the wrong way. But it's really no different to the posters on here who can't let anything go. And in fairness, even when he's wrong, he can usually back up his points with a decent amount of insight.

Five with Rio is a fantastic watch most weeks.
 

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Goldbridge is the PewdiePie of football fan streaming. People who like him are the type who'd do the Tide Pod challenge.
 

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Yep, I agree.

Joe Smith and Jay Mottey are my two favourites. They're the most level headed of the bunch. Probably my favourite amateur football pundits on all of Youtube.

I think McKola is wrong more often than he's right. But it's difficult not to like him for his enthusiasm and pro-United bias.

Howson has a very, very forthright style. So I can see why it rubs people up the wrong way. But it's really no different to the posters on here who can't let anything go. And in fairness, even when he's wrong, he can usually back up his points with a decent amount of insight.

Five with Rio is a fantastic watch most weeks.
Howsons verdict after the Everton game was full of contradictions!

I lost a lot of respect for him after that. He was slagging off Martial saying all he did was score a goal, then the previous week he was saying Ronaldo is there to score and nothing else.
 

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Check it, United View is great. I used to watch Stratford Paddock but I found the top red looking down at others a little bit hard to take. Mark at least treats everyone as equals. As the other guy said Howson is a bit of a sanctimonious prick. I like United View best right now. Flex is just a regular fan and together with KG is super funny. Plus he brings on Rory and people to bring a more balanced view. Plus Statman Cam who really gets the tactics and gives it a new level of depth.

I also love The Kick Off for the sheer banter. Adam Mckola is way better on that than he was on Stretford or FTD.
Yeah I’ll defo check it out then. I think Paddock is quality for the most part, Jay Motty, Joe and McKola are all good and as for Howson I think he’s alright but can understand why he can rub people up the wrong way with his stubbornness in his opinions. I think the kickoff is quality as well, although Laurence McKenna used to irritate the feck out of me but has grown on me a bit now.
 

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Mark Goldbridge is just too negative and moans all the time, also too up F Romano's a$$.

Howson is a proper United fan, but he swears too much on his channel. He's better during the Vibe with 5, more professional. He defo would be fun to have a pint with thou.

Only really watch vibe with 5 now when I have time.
 

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Out of the football channels I really like James Alcott and Rabona TV. Stretford Paddock annoy me a bit, except for Joe and Jay, while the Kick Off is just screaming half of the time. Goldbridge is a twat though.
 

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I watch Howson and Goldbridge, mainly because they’re both fairly entertaining. Howson seems to know what he’s on about, what makes you reckon he’s a tool?
Howson throws his credibility out the window when he constantly defends Ole to no end.
 

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Webby & O'Neill is good even through its seems just a front for Gary Neville's attempts at world domination.

i ve been subscribed to Goldbridge since 70k , i find him funny in an Alan Partridge sort of way.

Howson is ok

Its not a Utd channel as such but i been watching Ben Foster's channel lately and he has some good stories from his Utd days
 

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Webby & O'Neill is good even through its seems just a front for Gary Neville's attempts at world domination.

i ve been subscribed to Goldbridge since 70k , i find him funny in an Alan Partridge sort of way.

Howson is ok

Its not a Utd channel as such but i been watching Ben Foster's channel lately and he has some good stories from his Utd days
Watched a few of Ben Foster's but he's just repulsively positive to the point where you don't really get any real insight. Everyone is a "top player", "smashing it", etc...
 

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They're all parasites, the sooner they're gone the better (or someone at OT chins one)

Goldbridge is a Notts Forrest fan that jumped on the bandwagon, Howson used to rip of tourists, Flex was a Spurs fan, Saeed is a chippy tits.

Parasites, they just want to cause controversy for clicks.
 

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McKola and Motty seem like they’d be incredibly sound to get a drink with… Howson seems like he’d be a laugh for the start, and then get irrationally pissed off at someone who made an iffy face at him across the bar and youd spend the rest of the night trying to stop him having a fight with a group of students as he shouted “u wot m8?” a lot from the front forecourt.

Goldbridge wouldn’t get invited out
 

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Not all people coming here from abroad will be aware that it’s free…
I doubt that to be honest, who doesn't have access to Google these days.

Not all tours are a rip off and I never said they were. The ones run by that grifter though… yeah they were. You’re defending him like you know him. Most reds I know think he’s a tool.
I don't know him and I don't care to, I'm defending common sense more than anything.

Tourists go on holiday and pay people for all sorts of tours. If they've paid someone to take them on a tour and that person takes them on a tour then they've not been ripped off. They've got what they paid for.

Of all the things to criticize someone for this one's a bit odd to be honest.
 

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Personally, I watch United Stand, Stretford Paddock and sometimes flex's own channel. I also watch some of Ben Foster's podcasts too - he always has a good story to tell. Even if you dislike the YouTube channels, definitely look up Ben Foster talking with other people - he has stories on Fergie and Ronaldo too.

I like the watchalongs as well as interviews with ex-players and current journalists but I am not a fan of any of the transfer rumour videos which become stale and repetitive.

I will sometimes switch off because I can't stand the negativity, but that is no different to the forums either if we have a bad game. On the other hand, when we have a great result, I love to watch the fan reactions, the reactions to the goals and read the threads on the forums.

They're all parasites, the sooner they're gone the better (or someone at OT chins one)

Goldbridge is a Notts Forrest fan that jumped on the bandwagon, Howson used to rip of tourists, Flex was a Spurs fan, Saeed is a chippy tits.

Parasites, they just want to cause controversy for clicks.
Parasites... :D:rolleyes:

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They are "tools"
The top YouTubers, Stretford Paddock and United Stand, have both had professional footballers and journalists regularly on their channels. Do people really think they would bother working with them if they were really tools? They could easily just get "gigs" elsewhere if that was the case.

They are "performers"
We have posters on redcafe who you could argue are "performers", with specific posting styles. Also, every matchday thread we have people lose their shit or go ballistic when something joyous happens. Are they all performers too?

They clickbait
When you look at the forums and have titles which say "United will win the title this season" and there is just a post with a meaningless prediction rather than any deep analysis. It happens a lot on the forums, no one seems to mind and it can be fun, but when it happens on YouTube, people get angry about it?

The reality is that nearly every YouTuber has clickbait titles so that their videos match better with whatever YouTube uses for its algorithms in delivering content to the end user. So how are they expected to both maintain and grow their audience using the current Youtube algorithms without clickbait?

They pretend to know tactics
I am willing to bet most redcafe members have never received professional tactical training at any level, let alone the highest level. So of course all the opinions we have are pure guesswork. What do you expect? Even professional footballers get it wrong. There is a big difference between getting paid to give meaningful insight (Neville, Carragher etc) and delivering content for free on a YouTube channel.

Only in it for the money
How is this different to why many professional football players become footballers in the first place or why TV broadcasters actually show football - because it makes money. Should they be expected to deliver content 24/7 and not make any money from it?

Supported other teams
It is always based on "rumours" and never any actual evidence. Lots of people also support two or more teams. We have people here on the forums who support both United and Ajax, or United and Sporting etc. Footballers also support multiple teams. More to the point, whatever is the truth, who cares? The more United fans the merrier!

They are parasites
What exactly do they talk about which leads to controversy, which is not also discussed on redcafe, reddit and other social media platforms?

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The only platform I think I really dislike is Twitter. This is largely because it becomes ruined with bots, trolls and a small but vocal minority of people all of whom have clear sexist, homophobic or racist views etc which are not properly moderated out.
 

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They're clowns.

Used to tune into the Full-Time devils channel a few years ago...all McKola and Howson did was scapegoat Wayne Rooney after every defeat/draw during the Van Gaal era.

Can't be arsed with that agenda driven bias bollocks.

Havent watch rubbish like that since then. Although cant escape it all as some of that fancam shite finds it way onto twittter.
 

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Goldbridge is a funny bloke, but he plays into some of the worst parts of the fanbase and gives them a platform to thrive. Prefer his non Utd stuff as he is genuinely humorous. I avoid his Utd stuff especially when we're going through a rough patch because you know it'll just be a bit toxic from his audience. I can't believe people still want to believe he's not a Utd fan though :lol: there's pictures of him in a Utd kit as a nipper.

Stretford Paddock is good. Jay and Joe are great level headed blokes. McKola is fine too, at least you can tell he really cares.
 

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Personally, I watch United Stand, Stretford Paddock and sometimes flex's own channel. I also watch some of Ben Foster's podcasts too - he always has a good story to tell. Even if you dislike the YouTube channels, definitely look up Ben Foster talking with other people - he has stories on Fergie and Ronaldo too.

I like the watchalongs as well as interviews with ex-players and current journalists but I am not a fan of any of the transfer rumour videos which become stale and repetitive.

I will sometimes switch off because I can't stand the negativity, but that is no different to the forums either if we have a bad game. On the other hand, when we have a great result, I love to watch the fan reactions, the reactions to the goals and read the threads on the forums.



Parasites... :D:rolleyes:

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They are "tools"
The top YouTubers, Stretford Paddock and United Stand, have both had professional footballers and journalists regularly on their channels. Do people really think they would bother working with them if they were really tools? They could easily just get "gigs" elsewhere if that was the case.

They are "performers"
We have posters on redcafe who you could argue are "performers", with specific posting styles. Also, every matchday thread we have people lose their shit or go ballistic when something joyous happens. Are they all performers too?

They clickbait
When you look at the forums and have titles which say "United will win the title this season" and there is just a post with a meaningless prediction rather than any deep analysis. It happens a lot on the forums, no one seems to mind and it can be fun, but when it happens on YouTube, people get angry about it?

The reality is that nearly every YouTuber has clickbait titles so that their videos match better with whatever YouTube uses for its algorithms in delivering content to the end user. So how are they expected to both maintain and grow their audience using the current Youtube algorithms without clickbait?

They pretend to know tactics
I am willing to bet most redcafe members have never received professional tactical training at any level, let alone the highest level. So of course all the opinions we have are pure guesswork. What do you expect? Even professional footballers get it wrong. There is a big difference between getting paid to give meaningful insight (Neville, Carragher etc) and delivering content for free on a YouTube channel.

Only in it for the money
How is this different to why many professional football players become footballers in the first place or why TV broadcasters actually show football - because it makes money. Should they be expected to deliver content 24/7 and not make any money from it?

Supported other teams
It is always based on "rumours" and never any actual evidence. Lots of people also support two or more teams. We have people here on the forums who support both United and Ajax, or United and Sporting etc. Footballers also support multiple teams. More to the point, whatever is the truth, who cares? The more United fans the merrier!

They are parasites
What exactly do they talk about which leads to controversy, which is not also discussed on redcafe, reddit and other social media platforms?

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The only platform I think I really dislike is Twitter. This is largely because it becomes ruined with bots, trolls and a small but vocal minority of people all of whom have clear sexist, homophobic or racist views etc which are not properly moderated out.
Keep watching them, I think they're parasites so I don't click their shite.

You can, I'm not stopping you but I would rather discuss/argue with United fans rather than these pretend United fans :)
 

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Keep watching them, I think they're parasites so I don't click their shite.

You can, I'm not stopping you but I would rather discuss/argue with United fans rather than these pretend United fans :)
You think they are parasites but cannot come up with one reason as to why that may be. :rolleyes: