Newcastle United now owned by the PIF | PL receives "legally binding assurances that the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia will not control NUFC" ;)

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Well, feck. That's us dropping out of the top four unless we get better than Pool.

Chelsea, City, Newcastle, <wildcard>. That's 3/4 top four spaces locked down.
 

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Well, feck. That's us dropping out of the top four unless we get better than Pool.

Chelsea, City, Newcastle, <wildcard>. That's 3/4 top four spaces locked down.
this take over won't affect Arsenal. We have been in midtable for 2 seasons already.
 

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I think you are wrong. It really isn't easy to buy your way to the top of the PL. Everton and Aston Villa can testify to that.

FFP is a live and kicking and it has stopped City, otherwise Kane and a whole host of others would be playing for them.

What FFP hasn't stopped is Pep. When he goes the playing field will be much more level imo.

In all liklihood it will take Newcastle a good few years to challenge for the top 4. It will take significant funds and good management and it may take many years.

My last post today.
Of course it is. If you have enough money then you can get to the top quite easily. City did it in 4 or 5 years. Everton and Villa aren’t comparable in the slightest.

And you conveniently leave out the billion or so Pep has spent in his time there.
 

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I assume they’ll follow a similar trajectory to Man City. A few years of bumming about throwing large fees at big club rejects and being better known for noise in the transfer market than on the pitch. Then they‘ll hire a half decent manager, become more established and start to win trophies.

Ultimately it becomes a big three trinity of oil clubs in them, city and Chelsea who are immune to all the transgressions and vagaries of the market and capable of paying through the nose for any talented footballer out there.

Leaving Liverpool and United fighting for 4th and Arsenal, Tottenham etc languishing perpetually in mid table. It’s tragic.
You basically wrote what I was about to type. It will take Newcastle a while to get going but, once they do, it’s two doped teams plus the rest fighting for the crumbs. Imagine a Champions League semi-final quartet including PSG, City and Newcastle…
 
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This is actually great news. Bruce can do us a favour an sign Lingard, Martial, Jones this winter window. Great upgrade for Newcastle and we get rid of players hogging up space and wages.

PS I love Martial, but comes a time when a player with great potential hasn’t fulfilled it and you have to let him go knowing he might be very good elsewhere
 

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Football is over. Chelsea and City accelerated it's death, city in particular as they were an absolute nothing club. Chelsea at least had put in the groundwork of becoming a competitive team.

If you're a team like Brentford or villa or any club that's been working so hard to build and progress then this is like being booted off the 'pyramid' and being told to be grateful to be let back on. Newcastle are a floundering shambles of a club and through no sporting merit at all are about to overtake clubs who have had projects in place for years with blood sweat and tears in it.

Abu Dhabi v Saudi Arabia. They should be made to change names to reflect reality. They're not football clubs anymore.
 

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Congrats to them. They deserve it after the shite they've had to put up with Mike Ashley. Hate owners like them, completely gutting the club. Like Arsenal.
Yeah, these are much better owners. Hurray for murderers!
 

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Well, feck. That's us dropping out of the top four unless we get better than Pool.

Chelsea, City, Newcastle, <wildcard>. That's 3/4 top four spaces locked down.
It's like our fanbase is in denial about how much we spend ourselves :lol:
 

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One Russian mafia and two oil countries in the Premier League. It will be finished in 8-10 years.
I'm waiting for the Taliban to buy a club in the EPL, probably some colombian drug kingpins as wel might be interested in buying an english club.
 
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remember when QPR had a shite ton of money and was one of the richest clubs in the prem? Now look....

Football is over. Chelsea and City accelerated it's death, city in particular as they were an absolute nothing club. Chelsea at least had put in the groundwork of becoming a competitive team.

If you're a team like Brentford or villa or any club that's been working so hard to build and progress then this is like being booted off the 'pyramid' and being told to be grateful to be let back on. Newcastle are a floundering shambles of a club and through no sporting merit at all are about to overtake clubs who have had projects in place for years with blood sweat and tears in it.

Abu Dhabi v Saudi Arabia. They should be made to change names to reflect reality. They're not football clubs anymore.
 

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This story resurfaced out of nowhere, and it's already done.

Damn.
 

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Many Newcastle fans seem to be delighted on their forums to 'have the club back' after many fell out of love. Fans are ridiculously shallow.
 

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Well, feck. That's us dropping out of the top four unless we get better than Pool.

Chelsea, City, Newcastle, <wildcard>. That's 3/4 top four spaces locked down.
Leeds. They’re a prime candidate for some oil state to buy.
 

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This is actually great news. Bruce can do us a favour an sign Lingard, Martial, Jones this winter window. Great upgrade for Newcastle and we get rid of players hogging up space and wages.

PS I love Martial, but comes a time when a player with great potential hasn’t fulfilled it and you have to let him go knowing he might be very good elsewhere
You think they’ll keep Steve Bruce? He’s a goner.
 

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Silver lining is that at least they didn't buy Liverpool. I think that was their aim at first.
 

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This is actually great news. Bruce can do us a favour an sign Lingard, Martial, Jones this winter window. Great upgrade for Newcastle and we get rid of players hogging up space and wages.

PS I love Martial, but comes a time when a player with great potential hasn’t fulfilled it and you have to let him go knowing he might be very good elsewhere
Bruce will be gone before the transfer window opens.
 

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Can we just put PSG, Newcastle and City in a league of their own?
 

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Seeing the Newcastle fans singing with joy as an actual murderous regime buys their club is actually knocking me sick.

LOVE Newcastle as a place. The people there are great. Can’t stomach more scumbags involved in football.
 

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You think they’ll keep Steve Bruce? He’s a goner.
absolutely. Money on Conte for me. He'll make them very good, but i imagine hes a royal pain for owners/chairman because he always wants new players.
 

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Hopefully they get relegated this year. Never would have wished that previously on Bruce. Awful people in charge.
 

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how many owners worldwide do this though (Bayern, Real, Barcelona, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal, Spurs, ? if clubs generate loads in revenue do owners often inject cash?
Well the sugar daddy owners like Abromovich, the oil owners all do it massively.

The point is United would just need a top up on top of what we can already spend and we could literally outspend anybody with that right owner.

Yes we already spend high, but as I said earlier that shouldn’t negate the fact we could spend a lot more with the right owner.
 

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So if their future star makes an own goal will they lure him into the clubhouse and saw him into little pieces? Or will they just do that to Gary Neville when he's critical of their play style?
 

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Beheading journalists with the left hand, making Newcastle fans cheer with the right hand.

What a disgusting day for the Premier League this is. Abhorrent.
 

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Maybe I am, but I think you are kidding yourself if you think they will be able to get to top for anything less than a billion.

City's owners have spent 2bn - to win the league/league cup, haven't won the CL yet.
Chelsea have spent 2bn since Roman came in - few leagues, couple of CL titles.
Utd have spent a billion in 10 years, nothing much to show for it.
Arsenal have spent half billion and are shit
Aston Villa and Everton have rich owners, they've outspent nearly every club in the league and most of Europe's top clubs - roughly half a billion each in the last few years - what have they got for it?
I’m not saying they won’t spend that much, they have the potential to splash much more than a billion over the next few years. But if they’re clever they could feasibly put together a team challenging for the CL spots for less than that. When they reach Europe is when you start to see the big vanity transfers.
 

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Of course it is. If you have enough money then you can get to the top quite easily. City did it in 4 or 5 years. Everton and Villa aren’t comparable in the slightest.

And you conveniently leave out the billion or so Pep has spent in his time there.
And the fact the case failed because their cheating was time barred due to ineptitude on UEFA's front...

People really need to understand how ridiculous this is - City cheated at the time when it was most crucial, which is essentially going from a lower/mid table club into the CL places and accessing the CL money. The start of that journey is when no matter what money you have, FFP really handicaps your spending and the whole idea was that you have to plough money into infra and the academy but their issue besides impatience was a half empty stadium, no huge global fanbase and massive outlays on some pretty rubbish transfers so they inflated sponsors, freed up more money for spending (or more accurately accounted for spending that had already taken place). Once the CL money came in they were sorted, that's why Pep waited as he never wants anything but the perfect setup, but the fact they were allowed to basically cheat the system and fast-track just shows how little the powers that be really care.

Saudis are just going to be even more aggressive and they won't be the last; the CIC will be coming at some point as well to hammer the last nail into the coffin of the working man's game: run by billionaires, played by millionaires and paid for by schmucks like us.
 

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Isn't this takeover the opposite of what people were talking about during the whole European Super League thing? That Premier League clubs shouldn't be owned by outsiders and that the 50+1 rule should be applied?
How are we doing on that? Any progress? No?
 

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Can't wait to hear what Neville and Carragher say about this.
 

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It's like our fanbase is in denial about how much we spend ourselves :lol:
Barcelona spent a lot too, so did Real Madrid. You’re being naive if you think a legitimate football club relying on fair market price sponsorship deals, gate tickets, and tv revenue can in the long term compete with state-backed clubs.

To make it worse, the more these clubs dominate, the more legitimate sources of income they will have on top of the over-inflated sponsorships and other less kosher sources of income. Last year’s CL quarterfinal featured 3 of these clubs, and Real Madrid who were largely schooled by Chelsea. This should give you a flavour of what things will look like for years to come.

Basically we need to change our approach sooner or later to rely on competitive advantages (better scouting, better development of talent, coaching that gives us a team that is better than the sum of its parts, and so on) because sooner or later, we won’t be able to outspend these clubs. They’re happy to inflate the market ad infinitum, which something we can’t afford to do.

…or maybe something like FFP is introduced and it actually works this time around and reigns in this craziness.