Rashford is going ahead with surgery and could be out until October

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But we’re struggling at that with and without Rashford, difference is, we’re also now even pretty shit at our main weapon, the counter.

So Marcus return is a huge plus however you look at it.
It is a plus but I agree with him that Rashford's skillset doesn't bring what this team badly needs. His return won't solve the problems we have as opposed to say Scholes or Keane coming into this XI.
 
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It is a plus but I agree with him that Rashford's skillset doesn't bring what this team badly needs. His return won't solve the problems we have as opposed to say Scholes or Keane coming into this XI.
I honestly don’t think Scholes or Keane would make much difference, the pair of them though… well then you’d have a squad just making the tactics themselves.
 

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Will be a huge boost to have him back. Here's hoping he returns fired up and hungry.
 

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A treble would pale against what he’s currently achieved in life.
As a red A treble will be 100 times more important to me.
He’ll be more famous for what he’s done off the field than his actual profession.
 

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He’ll be more famous for what he’s done off the field than his actual profession.
So? Is that a bad thing when you consider what he’s done off the field? I’d say successfully campaigning to feed hundreds of thousands of children should always take higher credit than any sporting achievements.
 

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So? Is that a bad thing when you consider what he’s done off the field? I’d say successfully campaigning to feed hundreds of thousands of children should always take higher credit than any sporting achievements.
No it’s great what’s he’s done off the field , I’m just saying he needs to concentrate on what’s happening on the field when he comes back .
 

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No it’s great what’s he’s done off the field , I’m just saying he needs to concentrate on what’s happening on the field when he comes back .
I’d rather his off field work took prescience personally.
 

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Rashford has never let his off the field work affect his performances on the pitch, he has always kept banging in the goals even when playing through various injuries. It's a really lazy way to have a pop at him suggesting he needs to stick to football, focus on his performances etc.
 

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@Red00012 @Pexbo I think you’re both right in a way. We shouldn’t forget that it’s only because he had already established himself as a famous footballer that he has been able to exercise such massive clout. And I think it would be a shame if the people moaning that his off field work has caused him to lose focus on his football were proved right.

I’m pretty confident that his loss of form was simply down to injury and we will soon see him back to his best. Who’s going to be dropped to accommodate him?
 

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It’s pretty obvious he wont forget what he primarily is, and it’s good that he’s now got competition for places with Sancho, Greenwood and even Ronaldo now. I didn’t think he was that much challenged for his squad place at times which may have caused some complacency in his form, along with these injuries which he had been playing with for the best part of a year. In hindsight he should have binned off the Euros and got the surgery.

His off-field philanthropy doesnt involve him being actively involved in stuff every day. He undoubtedly has a PR team and another team who work on that, and he can make use of his platform to get messages out there. Hes not leaving morning training to go to meetings all day with public sector people every day.
 

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It’s pretty obvious he wont forget what he primarily is, and it’s good that he’s now got competition for places with Sancho, Greenwood and even Ronaldo now. I didn’t think he was that much challenged for his squad place at times which may have caused some complacency in his form, along with these injuries which he had been playing with for the best part of a year. In hindsight he should have binned off the Euros and got the surgery.

His off-field philanthropy doesnt involve him being actively involved in stuff every day. He undoubtedly has a PR team and another team who work on that, and he can make use of his platform to get messages out there. Hes not leaving morning training to go to meetings all day with public sector people every day.
This. I like Rashford but he has to up his game if he wants to be automatic for United and especially England. With England he is behind Graelish, Sterling, Mount, Foden and Saka. Greenwood and Sancho could join that list in a matter of months.
 

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A treble would pale against what he’s currently achieved in life.
Ok, but we still need titles. That is his job here. Doesn't have to be one or the other
 

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This. I like Rashford but he has to up his game if he wants to be automatic for United and especially England. With England he is behind Graelish, Sterling, Mount, Foden and Saka. Greenwood and Sancho could join that list in a matter of months.
I think that is very harsh. I don't think Rashford is behind that long list for England. If that were true he wouldn't even be taken to Euros, let alone get playtime. In reality he was played and that was despite him playing with injury. Best form Rashy is a massive player, at least as good as any of those you listed. In my book he is even better than most of them
 

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Rashford has never let his off the field work affect his performances on the pitch, he has always kept banging in the goals even when playing through various injuries. It's a really lazy way to have a pop at him suggesting he needs to stick to football, focus on his performances etc.
Whether it's related or not, I don't know. But his form properly nosedived in terms of performances last season and it seems to have coincided with his political stuff and feeding the kids.
 

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I think that is very harsh. I don't think Rashford is behind that long list for England. If that were true he wouldn't even be taken to Euros, let alone get playtime. In reality he was played and that was despite him playing with injury. Best form Rashy is a massive player, at least as good as any of those you listed. In my book he is even better than most of them
I think the Euros pointed to that all being true. If his injury was that bad they wouldn't have took him. He played most games for us iirc.
 

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I don’t think his off field work harmed his play at all. I think it was a mixture of injury and the manager doggedly refusing to drop him no matter how poor he was. This year with extra competition the hope is Ole doesn’t make the same mistakes and can shuffle the pack to a more in form/fitter lineup. I’m not so sure about Ole in this respect though. I think it’s his biggest weakness. I think he’ll play Rasford Bruno and Maguire in everything again and they’ll all probably be wrecked looking by March despite having a huge and expensive squad. Hopefully he proves me wrong this year but I wouldn’t bet on it
 

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Whether it's related or not, I don't know. But his form properly nosedived in terms of performances last season and it seems to have coincided with his political stuff and feeding the kids.
...and his 2 chronic injuries. :rolleyes:
 

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...and his 2 chronic injuries. :rolleyes:
If they were that bad he wouldn't be playing. As a pro player it is apparently rare that you okay without any knocks, niggles, injuries or pain.

You see players have an injury that they play with until the next break when they get surgery. He even went to the Euros, the lack of urgency says it wasn't a severe injury. Or just plain stupid medical staff at United and England.
 

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If they were that bad he wouldn't be playing. As a pro player it is apparently rare that you okay without any knocks, niggles, injuries or pain.

You see players have an injury that they play with until the next break when they get surgery. He even went to the Euros, the lack of urgency says it wasn't a severe injury. Or just plain stupid medical staff at United and England.
They were quite bad though weren't they, he even said he was playing with pain.
 

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It is a plus but I agree with him that Rashford's skillset doesn't bring what this team badly needs. His return won't solve the problems we have as opposed to say Scholes or Keane coming into this XI.
I actually feel we badly needed his pace against Aston Vila and Everton. They ruthlessly went all out to press us without too much worry on our counter attack.
 

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I actually feel we badly needed his pace against Aston Vila and Everton. They ruthlessly went all out to press us without too much worry on our counter attack.
Ronaldo will be a lot more dangerous with Rashford as well.

Rashford will stretch defences which will give Ronaldo the space to operate. Its not be coincidence that even Martial looks far better with Rashford in the team.
 

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A fit raring to go Rashford could really swing the tougher fixture list in our favour and relieve some of the pressure on Ole. Rashford, Ronaldo with Sancho/Greenwood. Bruno and Rashford are the two key men in the past seasons in how we play and I think Ronaldo will be helped with Rashford's speed taking on defences.
 

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How the hell does this “concentrate on his football” bullshit still persist? FFS that and his campaigning are not mutually exclusive and there’s been zero suggestion that he’s ever let it get in the way of his football.
 

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Rashford is the missing piece.

Once fully fit, him Ronaldo and Sancho will be scary to play against.