Some surprising stats that show how Ole compares to the almighty Klopp after 162 games...and lo and behold, the Norwegian has a higher win rate.
Ole in? Some surprising stats that reveal another side to Solskjaer's management performance
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
Oh no...
Can't argue with the facts.
Ole in.
Ole in.
You've changed my mind. Ole in!!
pfft, everyone knows you can’t draw any proper parallels between managers until 186 games
Some nice scouse clobber Klopp is wearing
okay this is epic
Very true. But then look at the next 100 games Klopp managed.... that's the impossible to see massive step up in quality.
And that record is Ole splashing the wong, whereas it's most likely Klopp pre keeper and Van D.
And that record is Ole splashing the wong, whereas it's most likely Klopp pre keeper and Van D.
Does not surprise me.
Doesn’t mean he’s better than Klopp by any measure and nobody has claimed that, ever. Just that he’s done a better job than many people give him credit for.
Like I said it doesn’t mean he’s better but I would have liked to have seen Carraghers face if this stat was trotted out last night on MNF.
Doesn’t mean he’s better than Klopp by any measure and nobody has claimed that, ever. Just that he’s done a better job than many people give him credit for.
Like I said it doesn’t mean he’s better but I would have liked to have seen Carraghers face if this stat was trotted out last night on MNF.
Nani > Ronaldo.
Cool. A stat that no one cares about actually.
The big context missing in this is quality of football. The whole world could see Liverpool were about to go on to great things - there football was improving constantly.
Unfortunately, I don’t think the Ole In crowd actually watch United, so this stat will give them plenty to get excited about.
Unfortunately, I don’t think the Ole In crowd actually watch United, so this stat will give them plenty to get excited about.
Said it in the other thread but Klopp was getting a lot of stick and calls for the sack as well, after signing VVD they transformed. Can we do that with a midfielder? I doubt it but we can try. Note this a rhetorical question assuming the club is keeping Ole and for those wanting Ole to stay.
I bet there's many a manager with a similar record but never went on to do anything of note, people might forget under Klopp they were bouncing around 8th even, it's just the form and stats you have when up and down the top half.
Liverpool sadly spent the Coutinho money wisely, we have spent our own large amounts of money many times over and come up with nothing.
I bet there's many a manager with a similar record but never went on to do anything of note, people might forget under Klopp they were bouncing around 8th even, it's just the form and stats you have when up and down the top half.
Liverpool sadly spent the Coutinho money wisely, we have spent our own large amounts of money many times over and come up with nothing.
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Now compare Ole to someone who’s not a gigantic bell-end.
Curious as to how much had Klopp spent after 162 games?
Oh higher win rate that must translate into winning more silverware as well then right? ….right?
Yeah but the massive obvious difference is Klopp was a manager who won the Bundesliga twice and made a CL final before joining Liverpool. Ole has genuinely only won a few Norwegian titles. Expecting him to suddenly burst into life as a top manager is just not going to happen
To be fair we’ve given enough backing to him, that certainly isn’t the issue. Surely signing both Varane and Maguire should be equivalent. With all the money spent, he chose to buy a winger over a CM.
We just need to win more 50/50s and it's game over for the rest of the league.
The difference is everyone knew Liverpool's problems in the defense. Meanwhile United's problem seems to change everything just to excuse Ole. First it was CB, then no it's RW, now now it's the midfield.
Stats like these never take into account the context of games won and lost.
However, Ole in all the way
However, Ole in all the way
Yeah I know, it's a rhetorical question really.
At this stage I believe Klopp still was close to 100 games away from winning his first trophy for Liverpool? At least 50.
Some surprising stats that show how Ole compares to the almighty Klopp after 162 games...and lo and behold, the Norwegian has a higher win rate.
Jesus that is so badDon't think pics are allowed in here. You must have thought you were in the General. What are you doing out of there anyway ffs!
The xG data shows that Klopp has always been a much better coach than Ole despite league position finishes.
Is that @Ranchero after this thread has been going a day?
Rodgers, who Klopp took over for, had a win ratio of 50 %. Mourinho had a win ratio of 58,3 %. In my opinion, that context is quite relevant when looking at those numbers.Some surprising stats that show how Ole compares to the almighty Klopp after 162 games...and lo and behold, the Norwegian has a higher win rate.
Unrefutable evidence Ole > Klopp
I think it was always the midfield… I’m more than happy with Varane and Sancho but if we’d had to ‘make do’ with Maguire/Lindelof/Bailly and Rashford/Greenwood/Martial BUT got a top def mid (don’t ask who), I’d have taken that for the balance.
In the same way we could see what a player like Bruno could do (though I didn’t think he‘d do this well), most posters could see the benefits of a top DM in screening the defence
I don't delve heavily into stats but I would imagine he would be on par with Fergie at the same stage of managing Utd.
Done.
Pidgeons learn faster than Ole inners.
It's only been 30 minutes and it's not looking good. Although it's a stylish way to go out.
It seems you have not yet learned how to spell pigeon though.
How did they look as a team though? He completely transformed the way they play and you could clearly see they were building towards something. Once they got to the CL final and lost they came straight back the following season and won it as well as pushing City all the way in the league. They then won the league the season after, constantly on an upward trajectory.
Did they do xG back then? Got any links, curious to look at it.
Suited up guy > donkey in tracksuit
Careful dude these ole in guys just care about ppg or something. Doesn't matter than klopp has spent a fraction of what ole has or has a pedigree of winning.