Gary Neville was dead to me | Reborn as a Dragon

[clarkydaz]

It's nice of him to defend the manager but it also means he's a giant hypocrite.

At Salford he sacks managers for fun but he's telling us okay maybe Ole's time is running out but we need to wait till the end of the season.

Funny how its a different story when its his money

 

[Ronaldo's ego]

Feck off Gary. This isn’t a dictatorship with us fans being little minions that are incapable of forming our own opinions. Our match going fanbase is extremely loyal by any standards and it’s reached a breaking point. Fair enough you refuse to say your pal should be sacked but then don’t say anything at all. You’re not the official voice of Manchester United, just shut your mouth and let it play out.

 

[shamans]

His post match comments annoyed me.
Saying we tried the big manager route with LVG and Jose so it won't work.

I'd accept that if they both left and were successful elsewhere but they are both clearly past their best

Exactly. Where are those managers now? It's clear we didn't sign big managers.

 

[shamans]

Neville is a hypocrite. He thinks his stance on never calling for a manager to be sacked is so noble and strong.

Well, why are you a pundit then? You sure have no issues saying a player should be let go of a club if they are poor, what makes a manager difference?

 

[Garethw]

Neville was called out earlier on Twitter by Piers bloody Morgan. Told him to take his blinkers off and that Solskjaer had to go. Neville’s response was something along the lines of “not blinkers. Just decency”.

Neville is deluded. Finished with him after he’s put his mate before the club.

 

[Cantonaaa!]

He said the same about Mourinho LVG and Moyes, no?

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[redshaw]

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There's just no sense in what he's said here.

 

[kouroux]

Neville can back and defend Ole as strongly as he wants, I will never have an issue with that opinion, no matter how strongly I disagree with it.
However the arrogance and disdain he displays towards all those who don't agree with him is ridiculous.

 

[::sonny::]

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[Sayros]

Funny how its a different story when its his money

I think he did address that saying he had made a mistake sacking the manager and should have let it play out until the end of the season, but you have to wonder if he made that admission simply because the hypocrisy was too much not to address.

 

[roonster09]

He said the same about Mourinho LVG and Moyes, no?

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Its well and good that he wants to back manager but he ends up looking like an idiot when he goes on a tirade against players. For all the coach's incompetence he blames players.

 

[Trequarista10]

Why are people still accusing Neville of backing Ole?

 

[duffer]

Neville is a hypocrite. He thinks his stance on never calling for a manager to be sacked is so noble and strong.

Well, why are you a pundit then? You sure have no issues saying a player should be let go of a club if they are poor, what makes a manager difference?

Which players did he say should be let go?

 

[duffer]

Why are people still accusing Neville of backing Ole?

Because he hasn't called for OGS" sacking or called him out for bad management.

 

[OoopsMisclick]

Gary Neville is doing his job: Generating clicks/traffic.

He did the same with all our previous managers.
People still read what he says because it's controversial among the supporters.
It doesn't matter to him if it further polarizes supporters to the point that you can't have a balanced discussion.
It pays his wage. Sky probably loves it


That being said, kinda funny that former Liverpool players say that UTD needs a new manager since he is not up to it while the former UTD players are OK with the shite football that is on show every week.

 

[Trequarista10]

Because he hasn't called for OGS" sacking or called him out for bad management.

He's laying into Oles management. People want him to say Ole should be sacked which he just won't, but he's basically saying it without saying it.

 

[MUFC OK]

He's actually an incredibly arrogant little man. Worked his socks off as a player to be successful which he mentions all the time in fairness. He just can't help but try to present himself as the bastion of all things good.

 

[duffer]

He's laying into Oles management. People want him to say Ole should be sacked which he just won't, but he's basically saying it without saying it.

That's how I see it. He's not backing Ole, he's just not putting the boot in.

I've heard mention of objectivity in coverage but that's either naive or disingenuous. As if the coverage on Sky Sports has ever been objective. They've always got Liverpool dudes to cover Liverpool games, Man United dudes to cover Man United games, etc.

 

[King_Cantona07]

He not calling for a manager to be sacked is completly different to his policies as an owner for salford, this is where it gets irritating. When its his own financial matter and club direction, he and his other directors are quick to fire and change. He expects a big club like united to show patience, this is double standards of the highest level. He is a very bad pundit for not calling out issues like how other panel members do, he totally looked like a clown on the panel after liverpool game defending Ole with all invalid points.

 

[Devil may care]

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That strange twitter exchange between someone and Piers Morgan where Piers Morgan isn't the one who's the most full of shit.

 

[duffer]

That strange twitter exchange between someone and Piers Morgan where Piers Morgan isn't the one who's the most full of shit.

There's a good barometer in life, if you find yourself on the same side as Piers Morgan, it's worth taking a good long look to check yourself.

 

[Devil may care]

There's a good barometer in life, if you find yourself on the same side as Piers Morgan, it's worth taking a good long look to check yourself.

There's an exception to every rule.

 

[NicolaSacco]

Exactly. If you can’t read between the lines when he speaks, and understand why he’s framing his criticism in the way he does, then obviously he appears blinkered. But I think it’s clear to anyone with an ounce of perspective what he’s really saying.

 

[duffer]

There's an exception to every rule.

Sure, and sometimes I agree with Morgan but I stand by "if you find yourself agreeing with Piers Morgan, it's worth a quick re-evaluation, just to make sure you're not being a cnut".

 

[Devil_forever]

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Err then why is he so quick to sack managers at Salford then? Where’s his empathy gone then? Oh is it because it’s his club? He’s a raging hypocrite and a shit commentator to boot. Same guy who was railing on Johnson, is more than happy to bleed united fans dry to stay at his hotel next to the stadium.
He’s full of shit.

 

[Devil may care]

Sure, and sometimes I agree with Morgan but I stand by "if you find yourself agreeing with Piers Morgan, it's worth a quick re-evaluation, just to make sure you're not being a cnut".

In this case i am not worried about being a cnut, that's a given in some eyes on here anyway I'm sure, but Neville is insufferable right now, nobody is expecting him to say Ole out but he's not even doing his job properly by critiquing him and he's also going against the rule he used to live by in that nobody is more important than the club.

 

[shamans]

Which players did he say should be let go?

You haven't followed him then, he calls out players and often says they're not good enough.

 

[Dave Smith]

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Populist bullshit and as if Ole’s goal had anything to do with his managerial skills and job he’s doing as a gaffer, feck me it’s embarrassing - if you would’ve said 22 years ago that most of the class of 92 that I have idolized back then would turn out to be egoistic cnuts with little valuable to say I would’ve said no way.

I don't get this post from him. Firstly a playing career has nothing to do with a managerial one. If Ole was the manager of the 99 or 08 side, i'd get it, however he was a player.

Second, what has 'Johnson era' got to do with this particular situation? The fans want him gone because he is out of his depth, not because of some political reason.

 

[ayushreddevil9]

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Populist bullshit and as if Ole’s goal had anything to do with his managerial skills and job he’s doing as a gaffer, feck me it’s embarrassing - if you would’ve said 22 years ago that most of the class of 92 that I have idolized back then would turn out to be egoistic cnuts with little valuable to say I would’ve said no way.

So he does admit that he is backing Ole.

 

[Doracle]

That strange twitter exchange between someone and Piers Morgan where Piers Morgan isn't the one who's the most full of shit.

Isn’t Neville’s comment here basically saying that he understands the position (no blinkers) but won’t call on television for someone to get the sack (decency)? He doesn’t actually disagree with anything Morgan says, other than the blinkers point. Seems pretty reasonable to me.

 

[MUFC OK]

I think he’s got a lot to answer for. He’s not talking or acting in the interests of the club anymore - this blind faith is tearing down everything the club should stand for and primarily that is WINNING. To be honest I can’t stand when the bloke opens his mouth at this stage.

 

[Big Andy]

Why is everyone getting their knickers twisted over what Gary Neville says on telly or twitter? It has literally no bearing on anything that goes on in the club, so don’t let it worry you. I place as much stock in what Gary Neville says as I do with Paul Ince. None.

so what if he backs his mate? Would you go on telly and stick the knife in to one of your mates? I know I wouldn’t.

this whole Ole in/out thing has made our fan base so toxic, the bile and absolute shite posted on twitter today alone is embarrassing to read. Fan cam wankers loving it for the clicks and likes, Twitter nobheads posting “I hope Ole dies” on the United tweet about Walter Smith. People working themselves into a frenzy over the whole situation.

Just support the team, whether it’s Ole, Conte or fecking Whoever else, back your team and your manager until the end. If he gets potted, and it’s likely barring a massive turnaround, then so be it, you then support the new manager.

since Fergie left the online fan base have turned against Moyes, LVG, Mourinho and now Ole. Whilst we’ve flattered to deceive with Those managers, we’ve turned into spoiled brats, running to twitter as soon as things don’t go our way.

 

[Stig]

I am Pakistani and I was referring to Pakistani PM.

Hold up. Are Pakistan and India about to have some sort of amicable relationship here and agree on something ?

I didn't think that was allowed.

 

[Shane88]

Where has Keane been in all this? Is he Ole in or out?

 

[MUFC OK]

Where has Keane been in all this? Is he Ole in or out?

Can’t imagine him being behind giving Ole any more time, he’s too honest and focussed on winning. I don’t expect to see him on any Utd related coverage in the coming weeks as such.

Dont think he’d put himself in that position.

 

[ZolaWasMagic]

Its quite clearly a case of backing his mate publicly, but in private i think he knows OGS is not the man for the job. Even his fellow colleagues and pundits must realise he is becoming a bit of a joke re. Ole's job now. Carragher seems to call him out on it, i think Souness did, too

How can he still peddle the line about giving him time and building "his" team. He's spent big money to be fair, and I am almost certain a Conte, a Pep, a Klopp, Tuchel, Mancini etc would have this team performing far better.

He'll criticise Pep's decisions or tactics, he'll criticise some Klopp decisions, and other managers, but not Ole. I do like him as a pundit, but he has to be objective and he will only find fault with 19 of the 20 managers

 

[adexkola]

Why is everyone getting their knickers twisted over what Gary Neville says on telly or twitter? It has literally no bearing on anything that goes on in the club, so don’t let it worry you. I place as much stock in what Gary Neville says as I do with Paul Ince. None.

so what if he backs his mate? Would you go on telly and stick the knife in to one of your mates? I know I wouldn’t.

this whole Ole in/out thing has made our fan base so toxic, the bile and absolute shite posted on twitter today alone is embarrassing to read. Fan cam wankers loving it for the clicks and likes, Twitter nobheads posting “I hope Ole dies” on the United tweet about Walter Smith. People working themselves into a frenzy over the whole situation.

Just support the team, whether it’s Ole, Conte or fecking Whoever else, back your team and your manager until the end. If he gets potted, and it’s likely barring a massive turnaround, then so be it, you then support the new manager.

since Fergie left the online fan base have turned against Moyes, LVG, Mourinho and now Ole. Whilst we’ve flattered to deceive with Those managers, we’ve turned into spoiled brats, running to twitter as soon as things don’t go our way.

Agree for the most part. People frothing over Neville is as silly as people genuinely bothered that the Ole Out poll isn't over 95% on here.

Objectively, Neville is speaking a lot of nonsense on this issue. So do a lot of pundits on a lot of topics.

 

[ariveded]

He is trying to be noble when the issue isnt about him.

Its not decency for asking Ole to stay in job, nor one is indecent for asking Ole be sacked. Its just football…

 

[LoneStar]

Brutal, but absolutely true. Giving the interim manager the position based on the PSG game, not even waiting till the end of the season was a shambolic decision in hindsight.

This club needs to move away from the class of 92. Gary Neville just spews shit based on a misplaced sense of nostalgia and rambles on about the United way. It's the same with all these ex players. They are like a dark cloud hanging over the club, always trying to influence in weird ways. Respect them as loyal players and great servants to the club, but that's it.

 

[LoneStar]

He said the same about Mourinho LVG and Moyes, no?

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This just means that he is a shit pundit and should not be taken seriously as an analyst then.

None of those managers deserved more time. At this point, it just seems like he's against sacking managers, period. Why even bother saying it then.