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I still wont believe we are getting Conte until I see the official announcement. I've been hurt too many times before.
 

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Had a think about this, & I think this is the way they will go. They obviously really like Vlahovic after bidding for him in the summer, & I think he's the type of focal point striker Conte will demand.

I don't think he's going to get Levy to go crazy with money (remember they have Romero still to buy), so my guess is sacrificing Kane, replacing with Vlahovic, 1of the Inter defenders & maybe Brozovic or Barella for midfield.
 

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It's a great job for Conte. Big money, short-term contract and everyone knows they don't have a Top4 squad + their greatest player ever scored just once in 9 games. Clearly Conte has greater ambitions than Spurs and the worst case scenario is he moves to one of Seria A teams this summer or next. You probably don't wanna end up in a position like Blanc when clubs forgot you even exist.
 

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So apparently he asked for a huge transfer budget already in January. Isnt Levy known for being a cheapskate?
I mean he didnt give Poch nor Nuno a lot of money, will he start splashing it now with Conte?
 

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So apparently he asked for a huge transfer budget already in January. Isnt Levy known for being a cheapskate?
I mean he didnt give Poch nor Nuno a lot of money, will he start splashing it now with Conte?
He simply has to - the amount of money the club loses from not getting Champions League football is enormous so we need to spend big to ensure we get there every season. No doubt, Conte would only agree to come to Spurs if he had a guarantee he has money to spend.
 

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He simply has to - the amount of money the club loses from not getting Champions League football is enormous so we need to spend big to ensure we get there every season. No doubt, Conte would only agree to come to Spurs if he had a guarantee he has money to spend.
Conte tends to leave with a bang if he doesnt get the exact players he wants.
We'll see if he'll be satisfied with Levy coming and saying look I cant get that and that player but I give you this and this.
Of course he could prove to be a huge success.
 

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So apparently he asked for a huge transfer budget already in January. Isnt Levy known for being a cheapskate?
I mean he didnt give Poch nor Nuno a lot of money, will he start splashing it now with Conte?
Probably realised they need to now. Tried ticking over on the cheap and they are falling away fast.
 

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He simply has to - the amount of money the club loses from not getting Champions League football is enormous so we need to spend big to ensure we get there every season. No doubt, Conte would only agree to come to Spurs if he had a guarantee he has money to spend.
Problem is competition is so fierce now, as we know all too well, & in a few years you can probably add Newcastle in the mix for that as well.

If, & I know it's a big If with Conte & Levy, but if they can stabilise & progress, they could be primed to take advantage of any turmoil of Pep leaving for instance. Klopp will probably leave Liverpool the year after as well. I think the chasing pack should be looking to build teams that can peak around then.
 

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He should be winning leagues. He won’t win the league with Spurs. Nor should he be expected to but I can’t imagine him being happy for too long about having to be miles behind Tuchel, Klopp and Guardiola.
 

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If I have to find a positive then One thing I'm looking to at Spurs and Conte is who his David Luiz, Ashley Young, Alexis Sanchez, Drinkwater and Bakyayoko players are going to be.

Spurs can't really afford those players on the short term can they?

They will really stick at Tottenham a bit long term.
 

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I don't know about that. Over the last decade, he has managed Juventus, Italy, Chelsea and Inter. The only one who can remotely be called an underdog is Inter, and they were no more an underdog than we are at the moment. He started managing very young, and his earlier jobs were obviously just to learn the trade. He clearly didn't go to the likes of Arezzo and Bari with any notions of elevating them to astonishing heights any more than Rooney did when he took the Derby job. So in the "serious" part of his managerial career, Conte has managed exclusively top clubs and the national team of a country that has always been ranked amongst the best.
When he took over Juventus was far from what they used to be until he himself ended their dominance. They were even struggling to get CL football regularly. They were the teams that not only bin diving for free agents, but also loaning players to get by with the lack of quality in the squad. You told anyone back hen when Conte took over Juventus that they're gonna win Serie A back to back from then until 2020, they would think you're crazy.

Everyone keep dreading about the Mourinho aftermath mess, yet Conte took over from Mourinho's meltdown mess at Chelsea, and didn't need 3+ years of rebuild! Setting some records back then too. The majority of that squad, and part of that starting XI soon would see their career approaching the declining part of their career.

Italy failed to make out of the group in WC 2014. Conte did well for a transition period until he left after EURO 2016. Pelle, Eder, Parolo, Giaccherrini. Those guys had a tournament of their life and pretty much soon to disappear. They didn't have great club career to begin with. Then Italy even failed to qualify for World Cup 2018! I don't know who rank Italy as one of the best back then, but it's pure bs. Italy NT job is exclusive to Italian coaches and it's very pressing cooking environment with the unrealistic pressure with not always near enough adequate quality to actually achieve the unrealistic expectation. It's considered a bold move for a young manager (back then) to take the risky Italy NT job. Only in the past 2 years, they're entering a good cycle of having a better balanced squad with good players (but soon they would have issue with their aging backline and no good forward have always been an on going issue).

You have tunnel vision on the names, but missing all the context even with the benefit of hindsight.
 
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Thought Romano said last week that Conte wasn't interested in taking over a club mid season, but will only make an exception for United? The Conte camp hurting his credibility I think.
 

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It's a great job for Conte. Big money, short-term contract and everyone knows they don't have a Top4 squad + their greatest player ever scored just once in 9 games. Clearly Conte has greater ambitions than Spurs and the worst case scenario is he moves to one of Seria A teams this summer or next. You probably don't wanna end up in a position like Blanc when clubs forgot you even exist.
Haha, Spurs’s greatest ever player? Have you ever heard of Dave Mackay? Glenn Hoddle? They actually won things with Spurs. Then of course you have the late great Jimmy Greaves……
 

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18 months just shows Levy knows this probably won't last. So he at least won't have to pay out 2 or 3 of a contract to him when he does get pissed and leave in 12 months.

I also just noticed how he looks a lot like a younger Bruce Dickinson.


 

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I find it hard to imagine what Conte would be getting out of this. He's not likely to challenge the big 3 on Spurs' budget, he's already facing a little gap towards fourth place, there is a question mark behind Kane's motivation and in general I feel like outside of the CL he has nothing left to prove.
I think his asperity as a person is catching up to him. None of the really huge clubs outside of Italy would hire him so Spurs it is.
 

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A short contract helped undermine the last manager. Really odd to only give Conte 18-or-so months again.
 

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I cant believe we are stuck with Ole. There is no manager available. Even if we loose the next 2 games he is going to stay till the end of season.
Now Chelsea, Spurs, City, Liverpool have world class coaches. Even a few mid table clubs have better Coaches. Again we see that the board is clueless and dont care about success
 

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Watching yet another good manager go to our rivals while we are too busy trusting the process nonsense. No words.
 

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If they can convince Kane he is still a footballer - or even sell him for a good profit and then replaced him with Vlahovic and a few other players he wants to shape his squad, they could be heading back to competitive.

Their squad isn't as bad as people make out, probably a few defensive reinforcements needed mainly.
City aren’t going to come back in for Kane unless it’s for a drastically cut cost, and past them there isn’t anywhere else he can realistically go. He’s going to end up staying I think.
 

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Inter weren't an underdog either. They were being bankrolled by Chinese money when he was there and were spending big. The article below shows that he was the third highest spending manager in football across his stints at Chelsea and Inter.

https://sempreinter.com/2020/11/20/...yers-of-all-managers-worldwide-since-2016-17/
You missed the part of my initial post where I clearly stated, Conte does the job with money. He can demand that by his reputation/ risking his reputation: jumping into jobs like this in the first place. As seen with other jobs, spending money alone doesn't guarantee you successes, especially when your rivals (in PL) can also spend too to keep the pace, and they were considered in better position to begin with.

Juventus made some serious big fee signings like Higuain, Ronaldo, De Ligt before his Inter stint, and they had a dominance to lean on. Even invested significant fee in fecking Morata when he's there. Their free signings were expensive in wage. It's just like SAF didn't have to spend on same scale of fee every season Chelsea or Man City to stay at the top. Take this with a pinch of salt, but still Juventus was to supposed to have significant bigger wage bill than Inter https://www.sportekz.com/football/serie-a-clubs-wage-bills/
 
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When he took over Juventus was far from what they used to be until he himself ended their dominance. They were even struggling to get CL football regularly. They were the teams that not only bin diving for free agents, but also loaning players to get by with the lack of quality in the squad. You told anyone back hen when Conte took over Juventus that they're gonna win Serie A back to back from then until 2020, they would think you're crazy.

Everyone keep dreading about the Mourinho aftermath mess, yet Conte took over from Mourinho's meltdown mess at Chelsea, and didn't need 3+ years of rebuild! Setting some records back then too. The majority of that squad, and part of that starting XI soon would see their career approaching the declining part of their career.

Italy failed to make out of the group in WC 2014. Conte did well for a transition period until he left after EURO 2016. Pelle, Eder, Parolo, Giaccherrini. Those guys had a tournament of their life and pretty much soon to disappear. They didn't have great club career to begin with. Then Italy even failed to qualify for World Cup 2018! I don't know who rank Italy as one of the best back then, but it's pure bs. Italy NT job is exclusive to Italian coaches and it's very pressing cooking environment with the unrealistic pressure with not always near enough adequate quality to actually achieve the unrealistic expectation. It's considered a bold move for a young manager (back then) to take the risky Italy NT job. Only in the past 2 years, they're entering a good cycle of having a better balanced squad with good players (but soon they would have issue with their aging backline and no good forward have always been an on going issue).

You have tunnel vision on the names, but missing all the context even with the benefit of hindsight.
I think the main point is not how the clubs were performing when he took them over, it's what level were the actual individual members of the squad at, & what budget he had to improve the squads, all in direct correlation to the opposition.

Hes about to compete against 3 of the best teams in the world, with 3 of the best managers in the world, all already well established, plus Man Utd who despite what's gone on recently still have a squad that can beat anyone on their day (& actually should be competing at the top of the table more).

And he'll likely have to do that with less resources than about 4 or 5 teams in the league. Although as an Arsenal fan I'm disappointed Spurs have got a very good manager, I'm actually quite excited to see how he'll get on with this challenge.
 

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Had to look up what acquiescence meant, but that reads to me that the board didn't want someone who would challenge them, which is basically what everyone has said on the caf. They want a yes man
 

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That structure of acquiescence permeated the defence and midfield against Liverpool. What a world. How come we are the only major player that ends up with a set of executives that don't care about results?
 

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Gutted Conte is going to Spurs. He'll make them top four material in no time at all.

Spurs have WC stadium, WC training ground and now a WC manager.

We have a stadium that's been neglected, a training ground that's fallen behind the best and a manager who needs a dummies guide to tactics and squad rotation.