Ole Sack Watch

[Zoo]

Who would be your choice for a caretaker manager till next year (provided Ten Haag will only leave in summer)? The current crop under him are pretty much useless

Rangnick, Favre, Valverde, Blanc. All competent managers which truthfully Ole isn't

 

[Regulus Arcturus Black]

Or manage the 70k fans that chanted he was a pedophile.

Yeah I’m gonna go with erm, “highly unlikely”.

 

[alexanderplatz]

I’m an Ole out guy now but I don’t see the alternatives. Feel like we just have to stick with it until the end of the season now. Also hope a proper coaching team is brought in now, we need experts with experience and not people learning on the job.

 

[hurricane thunderclap]

Who would be your choice for a caretaker manager till next year (provided Ten Haag will only leave in summer)? The current crop under him are pretty much useless

What use is a caretaker manager , really?
How long do you give him
What happens if things get worse
What happens if they get better
Would you let him loose in the transfer market
Who in your opinion has the managerial/ tactical abilities to see the club through the season is available and is currently despite all that not actually fit to be the right person for the job?

 

[smi11ie]

If it is between the Brodge and Southgate it's a no-contest. Has to be David "Brodger" Brent. I think Gareth would be a dissaster.

 

[Bobcat]

I’m an Ole out guy now but I don’t see the alternatives. Feel like we just have to stick with it until the end of the season now. Also hope a proper coaching team is brought in now, we need experts with experience and not people learning on the job.

That would have surely helped, but its too late now imo. I also find it bizzarre that Ole constantly praises them as "brilliant, exceptional" and whatever adjective he want to throw out there, but if they really were we would have seen that on the pitch instead of the complete mess we are right now

 

[Orton]

15 games in and still haven’t won more than 2 games in a row. The erratic results go way back into last season and we only put together a 5 game win streak after being humiliated at home by Sheffield United. You could clearly see we were out of any ideas near the end and the luck ran out hence we struggled so much at the tail end, then obviously have taken an even bigger nosedive this time round. Any other big club and he would never have got this long. Seeing him smile last night after another fluke result made me nauseous.

Then he compared us to the Michael Jordan/Chicago Bulls;, you know the same combo that dominated basketball in the 90s, after watching us scrape a 2-2 draw against Atalanta.

These players deserve a proper coach. How can anybody sit there and think he needs more time. How? What are they seeing that most of us aren’t.

 

[Westerkerk]

What the funk are you smoking??

A win versus a Spurs so poor they sacked their manager afterwards, a draw vs the 5th placed side in Serie A and “not being disgraced” so say 0-3 at home to City are “acceptable”, no the vast majority absolutely did not say that.

Acceptable would be a good showing and result versus City, showing that the management team have learnt from the Liverpool disgrace. Not acceptable is limping to piss poor defeat but at least “not disgraced”.

Listening to the likes of ShoutSport and 5 Live in the days after the Liverpool match, as well as the odd TV pundit pretty much everyone I heard say a win vs spurs, a draw at Atalanta and not to lose horribly vs City were the minimum expectations - personally I think a win vs Spurs and Atalanta (as well as convincing performances showing we've learned something) were the minimum - all I want to see in the City game is an upward trend - but we regressed yesterday so that's already out of the window.

 

[Orton]

Tbh with you any one of Rodgers, Poch, Ten Hag and Potter is a significant upgrade on Ole. If results get worse and there's no options I'd go for Potter right now regardless of if Brighton go from strength to strength. They play a lot better than we do.

Literally 19 other premier league managers are a bigger upgrade. He’s hilariously bad. He would drag Liverpool and City down to 6th.

 

[Adamsk7]

I think we should get an interim in until the summer and spent that entire time really assessing what we want in the next manager. There are plenty available for six months who are perhaps not what we’d go for full time (as said by others, like Laurent Blanc) but they’d have a better chance of improving our performances than what we have currently.

I had been behind Ole until the bitter end as I felt he’d built a squad of players I like however we are now playing terribly regardless of the personnel and formation, which tells me for sure him and his coaches aren’t up to it anymore.

 

[MonkeysMagic]

Surely all of our nearest rivals benefit from Ole being in the job for as long as possible. Call me a conspiracy theorist but I wouldn't put it past City 'taking it easy' on Sat if it means Ole gets to keep his job.

 

[Coops73]

Yeah the lack of emotion I felt with that Ronny equaliser must me the club feels dead to me which is sad to say

When that goal went in I just started laughing like a fecking mad man, the wife thinks I’ve finally lost it…she’s not far wrong.

 

[pocco]

Tbh with you any one of Rodgers, Poch, Ten Hag and Potter is a significant upgrade on Ole. If results get worse and there's no options I'd go for Potter right now regardless of if Brighton go from strength to strength. They play a lot better than we do.

I agree but I'm looking at it from the POV of the club, who won't make a change more till summer.

 

[arnie_ni]

Has an International manager ever had a club job at the same time?

Just thinking out loud but I'd take someone like mancini in a heart beat until season end even it meant you lose him to Italy during the international breaks.

Don't think any international manager would go for that though. They he hounded by the media if their country faltered then

 

[Wednesday at Stoke]

100%, but do we really think he’d taint his Arsenal legacy to manage Manchester United for seven months?

We're not Spurs and he's been itching for the right opportunity to get back in.

 

[Wednesday at Stoke]

Has an International manager ever had a club job at the same time?

It would be a conflict of interest and other clubs would complain.

 

[arnie_ni]

It would be a conflict of interest and other clubs would complain.

How would it be a conflict of interest, out of interest? My brain isn't getting there today.

 

[pascell]

Has an International manager ever had a club job at the same time?

Just thinking out loud but I'd take someone like mancini in a heart beat until season end even it meant you lose him to Italy during the international breaks.

Don't think any international manager would go for that though. They he hounded by the media if their country faltered then

Reportedly already said he doesn't want the United job, same with Deschamps and Enrique.

 

[IncyWincySpider]

Has an International manager ever had a club job at the same time?

Just thinking out loud but I'd take someone like mancini in a heart beat until season end even it meant you lose him to Italy during the international breaks.

Don't think any international manager would go for that though. They he hounded by the media if their country faltered then

Didn't Keagan manage Fulham and England at the same time briefly?

 

[arnie_ni]

Reportedly already said he doesn't want the United job, same with Deschamps and Enrique.

Ever or as a caretaker til season end?

 

[Wednesday at Stoke]

How would it be a conflict of interest, out of interest? My brain isn't getting there today.

Imagine him going to Chiesa and saying, its too bad you play at Juventus, otherwise you could be starting for the national team today.

 

[Flytan]

Imagine him going to Chiesa and saying, its too bad you play at Juventus, otherwise you could be starting for the national team today.

To be fair that's how ole chose our captain. Oh you play for England! Here you go

 

[Xaviesta]

Has an International manager ever had a club job at the same time?

Just thinking out loud but I'd take someone like mancini in a heart beat until season end even it meant you lose him to Italy during the international breaks.

Don't think any international manager would go for that though. They he hounded by the media if their country faltered then

Guus Hiddink and Alex Ferguson have both done it but they had club jobs when countries (Australia for Hiddink and Scotland for Ferguson) came calling.

 

[arnie_ni]

Imagine him going to Chiesa and saying, its too bad you play at Juventus, otherwise you could be starting for the national team today.

So is it actually not allowed then?

 

[arnie_ni]

Guus Hiddink and Alex Ferguson have both done it but they had club jobs when countries (Australia for Hiddink and Scotland for Ferguson came calling).

Yea this would be the other way around.

Hmm. Just a thought. We don't seem intent on sacking him anyway

 

[Rusholme Ruffian]

The only enjoyment I'll get out of Ole's inevitable departure is watching everything labelled 'excuses' for him suddenly become valid and second/third becoming commendable achievements when someone else is getting them.

Apologies if I'm reading this wrong, but you seem to be suggesting that there is no other manager out there that could hope to do any better than Soljskaer with this squad?

 

[Simbo]

I stuttered after the 'pool game for sure but am a 'give him the season' guy really. Give this team chance to gel, reward those who put the effort in and prove themselves.

A united legend at the helm is a dream I won't give up on easily.

 

[Rusholme Ruffian]

A united legend at the helm is a dream I won't give up on easily.

Why does this even matter? Sir Matt Busby played for City and Liverpool...

 

[Wednesday at Stoke]

So is it actually not allowed then?

No but people don't do it as it is unethical.

 

[LordSpud]

I stuttered after the 'pool game for sure but am a 'give him the season' guy really. Give this team chance to gel, reward those who put the effort in and prove themselves.

A united legend at the helm is a dream I won't give up on easily.

Bailly saved our skin last night and should be rewarded for his efforts but it will be back to Lindelof next game.

 

[Steven-UK]

I stuttered after the 'pool game for sure but am a 'give him the season' guy really. Give this team chance to gel, reward those who put the effort in and prove themselves.

A united legend at the helm is a dream I won't give up on easily.

I'm guessing you're not actually paying to watch us at OT? The guy is clueless as a manager. The fact he even got the job is a sentimental fluke, and he was also lucky that we'd already been through a few managers before he got the job, or he'd already be gone.

Ronaldo is literally carrying this guy, and do you know what, Ronaldo and the team actually deserve better.

 

[KingCavani]

Varane injury was so predictable. He was doubtful last Saturday ffs.

His desperation to keep his job is absolutely killing us.

The decision not to sack him earlier will haunt us for a long time.

 

[Ixion]

The only enjoyment I'll get out of Ole's inevitable departure is watching everything labelled 'excuses' for him suddenly become valid and second/third becoming commendable achievements when someone else is getting them.

Or the things labeled minimum expectations or failures for Mourinho being achievements for Ole

 

[RazorOz]

Surely all of our nearest rivals benefit from Ole being in the job for as long as possible. Call me a conspiracy theorist but I wouldn't put it past City 'taking it easy' on Sat if it means Ole gets to keep his job.

Doubt it. Pep is a winner, you can hardly go in with a mentality of take it easy, that's how you lose. City are also coming off the back of a defeat, ie. have a point to prove, and can't afford another slip up.

 

[Judas]

Surely all of our nearest rivals benefit from Ole being in the job for as long as possible. Call me a conspiracy theorist but I wouldn't put it past City 'taking it easy' on Sat if it means Ole gets to keep his job.

Hilariously idiotic opinion, no offence. Sort of stuff belongs on RAWK.

 

[bond19821982]

Hilariously idiotic opinion, no offence. Sort of stuff belongs on RAWK.

Can you blame him ? It's becoming laughable. After one point, you do know that you can't continue like this. But our management still don't get it.

 

[pratyush_utd]

He isnt going anywhere this season. Our board has already decided to throw this season it seems.

Hopefully he gets it right and win something. Atleast have a decent run in CL and a top 4 finish and then we move on to new manager next season

 

[NoLogo]

The only reason this season hasn't turned into an unmitigated disaster so far is because he has Ronaldo now.

Still horrendous work from him and his team, probably the worst manager of any top 4 team in the big European leagues.

 

[Regulus Arcturus Black]

No but people don't do it as it is unethical.

I don’t think that’s the reason at all, just the most people understand that it is a hell of a lot of work just to do one of the jobs let alone trying to do two at the same time. A club manager can never fully commit the time that is required of an international manager, and disappearing from your club for weeks at a time aint good.

That said, Hiddink, Fergie, Keegan, Dick Advocaat amongst others have done it for periods.

 

[lilcurt]

Who are people changing their vote to 'give him more time?'

I've noticed it creep up slightly. Surely WUMS?