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Maybe sell in January for even 10m and also save on his wages for the remaining part of the season.
There's also compensatory elements to Pogba in the French team.Can’t argue with this.
You put Fred in that french team and he will look world class.
I agree but then again if there weren't real offers or interesting enough for him then we were always gonna keep him. The uncertainty doesn't help anyoneThe only option was to sell, we have been trying to extend for at least 2 years now and it has been obvious to anyone with half a brain that Paul and that delightful gentleman who represents him never had any intention of staying here. We might have been able to get him sold before the start of last season but COVID torpedoed that and once he got to this summer he knew he was only months away from the promised land and is happy to wait and see those bids roll in. I would not advocate banishing him to the reserves for wanting to leave, every player is entitled to do what is best for them, I would however stop playing him so much in the place of players who may have a long term future here and identify the best system that does not include him instead of constantly shoving a square peg in a round hole.
Let's not rewrite history. Pogba and Jose are two different problems. Jose had to be sacked because he had problems with many playersLong term contract ? No, he's not justifying a first team place.
Attitude stinks, Jose was right about him. Tbh, I'm wondering if we wouldn't have been in a better place now if we'd kept Jose and let him sell Pogba
Nobody will pay 10M in January nor will he accept moving for a fee when he can get a big fat golden handshake instead.Maybe sell in January for even 10m and also save on his wages for the remaining part of the season.
If they wanted him.Why would they?
I think it's best to part ways with Pogba now that Fernandes is also at the club. I think it would also make life easier for a new head coach, if he had one less issue to deal with when trying to balance the squad/team. I like Pogba but I don't see him fitting into the dynamic with Fernandes.What seems to be the consensus on what's happened thus far? He's been offered a 400K deal and still keeping his options open, or have we not offered him a deal yet?
Yeah...He needs a defensive midfield behind him. That's all.
I dread this scenario. I'm sick to death of the Pogba era, the constant bending over for him is as embarrassing as the Moyes and Fellaini eras, or the Old Man Rooney era.We are the only show in town when it comes to stupidly spending money these days so he’ll sign with us again and it’ll be spun as some great coup that we managed to keep him.
Seems I've read this sort of sentiment on the forum and elsewhere, that Pogba is basically a luxury player that requires others/tactics to make him stand out. That perhaps he was vastly overrated at Juve thanks to the performances of others and the tactics employed. I've no clue how much of that is truth and fiction.There's also compensatory elements to Pogba in the French team.
For eg. in the World Cup in 2018, Matuidi played LW just so that if Pogba went forward, Matuidi could drop back and cover him knowing full well that Pogba wouldn't.
A more recent example would be the Nations League final vs. Spain. Pogba was in a 2-man midfield, yes, but it was a 3-4-3 with Theo Hernandez to his left, the work-horse Griezmann in no.10 and Kimpembe at LCB behind. Whether forward sideways and behind, he had running players to compensate.
Done.
What do you want the question to be?Thanks!
Edit: Haha
Pogba wouldn't like that to be fair. Pogba is old enough to supposed to learn how the game works and be the leader on the pitch but instead, he hasn't developed it and probably would never develop it and needs an experienced one to coach him on the pitch but would he like and accept it if he is being told what he does is wrong?Came across this vid of Tuchel laying into an individualistic player whilst at Mainz.
Absolutely what Pogba needs.
Pogba had the benefit of playing in a Juve team that had some incredible leaders, such as Pirlo, Chiellini and Buffon. It certainly helps to have those voices around you, to check your poorer instincts, to compliment you better ones. He also played under Conte and Allegri, two managers who are very well organised defensively.Seems I've read this sort of sentiment on the forum and elsewhere, that Pogba is basically a luxury player that requires others/tactics to make him stand out. That perhaps he was vastly overrated at Juve thanks to the performances of others and the tactics employed. I've no clue how much of that is truth and fiction.
You know what, i'm wondering the same thing.......somebody should do a FM simulation.Long term contract ? No, he's not justifying a first team place.
Attitude stinks, Jose was right about him. Tbh, I'm wondering if we wouldn't have been in a better place now if we'd kept Jose and let him sell Pogba
Yeah, let's give the captaincy to the guy who only turns up about 10 games a season and gets his brother and agent to mouth off about how much he deserves to go to another club every other international break.The sensible thing would be to tie down a World Cup winning player even if its to sell him on next summer, but with the board we have who knows whats going to happen. We seem to be happy over paying for players and just as happy under selling them.
Personally id keep him, on his day (after CR) hes probably the best player we have should have been made captain before Slab head, and his performances would have been a lot better.
Funny how Raiola doesn't actually talk much about moving his players on apart from Pogba during his stint with us. Otherwise he pretty much keeps quiet until it's the transfer window when he's angling for a re-contract or a big money move and he starts his show.He's a player who has been indulged too much during his career. Incredible talent but it's like he's been told that every day and nobody ever taught him where to improve. To be fair our managers have either been unwilling or incapable of teaching him, and his agent is there in the background undermining anybody who might try. You look through Raiola's client list and its mostly the same, great players who could have been better still with more sensible advice. Pogba will go down as the same.
A better manager could set a team up to cater to him but for us, that would sacrifice Bruno and we don't want to do that. At this point it's better to let him go and be somebody else's problem.