Will Ole get another PL job after this?

Will Ole get another PL managers job at some stage?


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Going by the posts in this thread about Ole being underwhelming in Norway, why do so many think he'll become the national team manager? Isn't that likely to be an unpopular appointment?
 

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Where do you stand on this?

personal opinion is that he will at some stage.
Solid win %, the 3rd top manager for getting PL points in his tenure and the away record to his name.

obviously there are things against him too

So choose your side and let’s keep this for record
He'll get a job in top 5 leagues if not PL specifically. This season apart when the wheels fell off, he was doing a good job - meeting expectations, players were happy, is not controversial, showed good squad building abilities.
Not being able to take the final step doesnt make him a shit manager, will just mean that he isn't an elite manager. Plenty of managers fail, nearly every tenure ends with them getting sacked and there's no shame in failing at United.
 

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He'll get a job in top 5 leagues if not PL specifically. This season apart when the wheels fell off, he was doing a good job - meeting expectations, players were happy, is not controversial, showed good squad building abilities.
Not being able to take the final step doesnt make him a shit manager, will just mean that he isn't an elite manager. Plenty of managers fail, nearly every tenure ends with them getting sacked and there's no shame in failing at United.
You're talking as if we've just come short of a title. We've imploded for the same weaknesses that left us trophyless and in bad runs of form previously. We've spent big on ill fitting players, that's easy.

Clubs will factor in the money he has spent.
 

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Why would they, he’s won nothing and is universally seen as a joke?
As mad as it is, I reckon even bottom level PL teams fans, would be well and truly pissed off if their club hired him. He is absolutely seen as a joke outside of our club.
 

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He'll get a job in top 5 leagues if not PL specifically. This season apart when the wheels fell off, he was doing a good job - meeting expectations, players were happy, is not controversial, showed good squad building abilities.
Not being able to take the final step doesnt make him a shit manager, will just mean that he isn't an elite manager. Plenty of managers fail, nearly every tenure ends with them getting sacked and there's no shame in failing at United.
If you think anyone in Italy, Spain or Germany would be interested in D-tier manager who failed at Molde, Cardiff and United I’ve got a bad news for you. They’d much rather risk it with someone who can turn out to be good than go with a clueless guy putting himself before the club and players. There’s many prospective managers out there and Ole’s reputation outside of United bubble is zero.
 

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Name one PL club that would have him?

I can't think of any. If you can't get a tune out of our current squad, how can you do it at a lesser side.

He's done. Back to Norway is his only option.
 

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He'll probably outlast the PL as United manager the way things are going.
 

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To quote a former Cardiff manager: I couldn't care less.

But no. He's gone to the lowest level possible now: A joke, ridiculed by supporters of other clubs. Signing him would be like signing Phil Jones.
 

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As mad as it is, I reckon even bottom level PL teams fans, would be well and truly pissed off if their club hired him. He is absolutely seen as a joke outside of our club.
it’s mind boggling this is even debatable. Even Newcastle would have zero interest right now.
 

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Going by the posts in this thread about Ole being underwhelming in Norway, why do so many think he'll become the national team manager? Isn't that likely to be an unpopular appointment?
He most likely won't get that job either.

The guy managing Norway now has won much more than him and is doing well in the WC qualifications.
 
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I can't see it, as he's already proven himself lacking at both ends of the table and has become somewhat of a meme in the process. I wonder if he'd even want another coaching job after this anyways, especially one in the limelight? United was always going to be the pinnacle of his coaching career - which even he likely never believed possible in the first place - wouldn't be surprised if he called it a day.
 

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Honestly no, he's the worst in the league.

Teams in a relegation scrap will see that despite having hundreds of millions at his disposal, a very very good squad and all the time in the world, he's done nothing to elevate the standards at the club.

What would make them think that he could do it at a struggling club with little to spend? Especially since the only experience he had at a struggling club ended in their relegation.
 

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He'll get a job in top 5 leagues if not PL specifically. This season apart when the wheels fell off, he was doing a good job - meeting expectations, players were happy, is not controversial, showed good squad building abilities.
Not being able to take the final step doesnt make him a shit manager, will just mean that he isn't an elite manager. Plenty of managers fail, nearly every tenure ends with them getting sacked and there's no shame in failing at United.
He spent half a billion with nothing to show for. Failed miserably at Cardiff, 10m+ per season manager, who was on the verge of sacking every 3 months. Signed a 200m+ defence that's lacking all sorts of composure and structure. Signed Sancho and doesn't know how to use him, resulting him getting dropped from the English NT.

He's not just a shit manager, he's a checkbook shit manager that will get exposed everywhere he steps his foot in, depends on who is stupid enough to appoint him.
 

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He isn't getting one straight away. He'll have to try the Moyes / Schteve route and go via Spain / Holland or somewhere first I would think. If he even wants to of course. You have to assume he's doing his dream job right now, maybe if that's over he'll be happy to retire, who knows?
 

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Going by the posts in this thread about Ole being underwhelming in Norway, why do so many think he'll become the national team manager? Isn't that likely to be an unpopular appointment?
You'll find there are many Norwegians who don't give a shit about football beyond the national team, and they still view Ole as a national treasure. Then there are many yet who only follow their local teams and the national team.
Those who follow the Premier League would see Ole as a terrible appointment.
 

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it’s mind boggling this is even debatable. Even Newcastle would have zero interest right now.
Thing is, some fans have convinced themselves that he has done some cracking work here in terms of man management, cultural reset, progress, 2nd place, happy environment etc. The problem is, a-lot of those metrics are simply bullshit for a top level club, and this famed second place finish came with major caveats. When you scrutinise these buzz phrases deeper, they can be called out for the nonsense that they are. Don't get me wrong, initially he done some good work, but when the main defense of him after nearly 3 years are fluffy buzz phrases - because he's had no discernible on-field success to judge him by - then you know things are utterly fecked.

Outside the bubble of Manchester United, he's seen as the man that's won nothing with us after 3 years and poses no danger of winning anything meaningful. Some though, will keep believing to themselves that he's done some fantastic job, but only failed at the last hurdle. I find that notion to be absolutely ludicrous. The proof will be in the pudding when he leaves, and I'm confident he won't have much of a managerial career after this gig.
 
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I don't think he will want one. He looks utterly broken, he doesn't need the cash, especially when he gets his 7 million quid sacking bonus. This will finish him as a manager.
I think so, too.
He may manage in Norway or take the Norway manager's job, but the EPL is too stressful.
 

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Thing is, some fans have convinced themselves that he has done some cracking work here in terms of man management, cultural reset, progress, 2nd place, happy environment etc. The problem is, a-lot of those metrics are simply bullshit for a top level club, and this famed second place finish came with major caveats. When you scrutinise these buzz phrases deeper, they can be called out for the nonsense that they are. Don't get me wrong, initially he done some good work, but when the main defense of him after nearly 3 years are fluffy buzz phrases, because he's had no discernible on-field success to judge him by, then you know things are utterly fecked.

Outside the bubble of Manchester United, he's seen as the man that's won nothing with us after 3 years and poses no danger of winning anything meaningful. Some though, will keep believing to themselves that he's done some fantastic job, but only failed at the last hurdle. I find that notion to be absolutely ludicrous. The proof will be in the pudding when he leaves, and I'm confident he won't have much of a managerial career once he leaves.
Good post. Agree with everything
 

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Outside the bubble of Manchester United, he's seen as the man that's won nothing with us after 3 years and poses no danger of winning anything meaningful.
The "no trophy in 4 years" ends the argument.
Imagine if a manager went to LFC, MCFC, CFC - won no trophies in 4 years, would they still be in a job? Nope.
At CFC, if you don't win a trophy in 2 years, you're fired and they spend far less money than Ole has done.

A chequebook manager but without trophies? I doubt that any PL clubs would want that.
Give him loads of money and he'll win you nothing.
That about sums him up, I'm afraid.
 
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At his next interview he'll ask if he gets £400m to spend as he's worked wonders on that sort of budget before.
 

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Not a chance he gets a job in the premier League. He has stained his managerial career here, any fan of any club would riot if he was even mentioned as a candidate.
 

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Interesting to know what club (if any) would hire him
 

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He's nothing but decent, he's infact awful. Sure 2nd and all that, but he obtained that with 300M spending and a United Squad with things to prove. The more he meddles the worse we become.

And why? It's not like there's shortage of candidate. Managers like him are dime dozen. He's hardly SAF
To be fair, that's what I was saying really. When you drop down to where you haven't got those incredibly talented players, so therefore a system is way more important, I don't think he has it in him to do that.
 

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See Frank Lampard. Unless he strikes lucky and takes a big job in the Championship and gets promoted, he has no chance.

The pair of them are equals as managers, and Lampard is obviously damaged goods after the way Tuchel made that Chelsea team successful in the same season.
 

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He knows he's not getting any offers anytime soon, so once sacked he will pretend he's "taking a break from football".

His only option afterwards is either United States or Asia.
 

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See Frank Lampard. Unless he strikes lucky and takes a big job in the Championship and gets promoted, he has no chance.

The pair of them are equals as managers, and Lampard is obviously damaged goods after the way Tuchel made that Chelsea team successful in the same season.
Not sure if they’re equals, wouldn’t compare their managerial ability but Lampard was twice the player Ole was and never embarrassed himself to a level OGS has. His reputation following Chelsea exit was much higher than Ole’s after he finally leaves us
 

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He'll get a job in top 5 leagues if not PL specifically. This season apart when the wheels fell off, he was doing a good job - meeting expectations, players were happy, is not controversial, showed good squad building abilities.
Not being able to take the final step doesnt make him a shit manager, will just mean that he isn't an elite manager. Plenty of managers fail, nearly every tenure ends with them getting sacked and there's no shame in failing at United.
Who's going to give him 300m to spend and pray their top rivals all have their worst seasons in years?

He's fecking shit as a manager who wouldn't even get a job in league 1 after this.
 
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Going by the posts in this thread about Ole being underwhelming in Norway, why do so many think he'll become the national team manager? Isn't that likely to be an unpopular appointment?
I see a lot of people saying this, but I don't think it's likely he'll go back to coaching in Norway at all. Think he's too prideful to take such a step down. Plus, Norwegian football has been notoriously shit, but the quality of coaching has evolved quite a bit in recent years. The national team finally has a proven manager who actually knows what he's doing. Unless Solbakken fails miserably and nobody else is available I don't think he'll get the Norway job anytime soon.

If he manages another club, it would have to be a similar situation to Molde where he can outspend everyone, but I don't see which club could do that, and the opposition is quite a bit better now. The league was as a low point when he won it.
 

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I voted no because I'm struggling to think which club would consider him. There's also the question of whether or not he'd want to manage in England again.

Leeds, City, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool won't go near him for tribalistic reasons. Spurs, Leicester, Everton and arguably now West Ham won't touch him. Newcastle are more likely to hire his predecessor. Wolves, Palace, Southampton or Brighton? I can't see it personally.

No top club would give the time United have given him, relegation threatened clubs won't want him after what happened at Cardiff who weren't exactly nailed on for relegation when he took over.

This isn't a situation like David Moyes and Jose who both had credit in the bank so to speak for what they'd done in the past,. Solskjaer didn't cover himself in glory at Cardiff and the longer he stays at United, the worse it's getting.
 

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See Frank Lampard. Unless he strikes lucky and takes a big job in the Championship and gets promoted, he has no chance.

The pair of them are equals as managers, and Lampard is obviously damaged goods after the way Tuchel made that Chelsea team successful in the same season.
Lampard did a lot better than Ole in Championship though. If Ole leaves and we see improvement under the next manager, his stock would arguably be even lower than Lampard's. Plus outside United - quite universally - only one of them is seen as legendary player, and the other as good but unremarkable United squad player, who scored a legendary goal.
 

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He isn't getting one straight away. He'll have to try the Moyes / Schteve route and go via Spain / Holland or somewhere first I would think. If he even wants to of course. You have to assume he's doing his dream job right now, maybe if that's over he'll be happy to retire, who knows?
Moyes only got back as he had at least proven to be able to manage a mid table PL team. It's now become clear that this is his level. I don't think that Ole could keep any team outside of the big 6 in the PL.
 

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Now that I think about it, Neville should hire him as Salford City.
 

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That would be extremely unlikely. What has he shown here that would make other clubs interested in him as a manager?
 

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Premier League clubs won’t consider him and he won’t consider any offers even if they came his way, which I think is a red flag itself.

We need a manager who fights for his reputation and has drive to be the best manager. I don’t think Solskjaer has any real drive to be an elite manager and hes just lucking out at being parachuted into his dream role. A lot of successful players usually don’t have the ambition to do it all again as a manager.
 

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See Frank Lampard. Unless he strikes lucky and takes a big job in the Championship and gets promoted, he has no chance.

The pair of them are equals as managers, and Lampard is obviously damaged goods after the way Tuchel made that Chelsea team successful in the same season.
Frank was shite at Chelsea but I expect time and the general goodwill towards him will write off that spell as too much too soon, he'll manage in the Prem again if he fancies it.
 

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Doubt he would want another job in the EPL. Lowkey club Scandinavian ambassador the obvious solution to a rather embarrassing affair.
 

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So Villa just sacked Dean Smith, so to the people who think he would get another job in the league, do you think Ole would be in the running for the Villa job if United sacked him on Monday?