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Do you just log on the caf every day with the intention of shitting on someone? A brief glance at your post history suggests you use this platform forum like twitter. You log on, find your target and spend a while having a go at them until they stop responding.
No, I haven't been on for a few days. Thanks for asking, though.
 

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Do you just log on the caf every day with the intention of shitting on someone? A brief glance at your post history suggests you use this platform forum like twitter. You log on, find your target and spend a while having a go at them until they stop responding.
I will second that! She is always looking for an argument and encourages others to pile on until the poster in question gives up (fed up with arguing with her and her cohorts), then claims a “moral” victory. It’s an old and tired way of self promotion at the expense of people she doesn’t agree with. Boring
 

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I will second that! She is always looking for an argument and encourages others to pile on until the poster in question gives up (fed up with arguing with her and her cohorts), then claims a “moral” victory. It’s an old and tired way of self promotion at the expense of people she doesn’t agree with. Boring
You alright there?
 

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I will second that! She is always looking for an argument and encourages others to pile on until the poster in question gives up (fed up with arguing with her and her cohorts), then claims a “moral” victory. It’s an old and tired way of self promotion at the expense of people she doesn’t agree with. Boring
From what I have seen of his/her posts she challenges people until they feel uncomfortable about the position they have taken. I have never seen an issue with the quality of their arguments.
 

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You're equating this to Nazi Germany?
Marauding right wing gangs, spurred on by corporate fascists and their media outlets, shooting people in the street and not being convicted, reminds me of the Weimar Republic.
 

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From what I have seen of his/her posts she challenges people until they feel uncomfortable about the position they have taken. I have never seen an issue with the quality of their arguments.
I don't mind people taking issue with quality, but I'm usually the one who stops responding first so that's a pretty bizarre allegation. It's also intereresting how mr Bacon Sandwich took a quick look at my comment history, because I'm pretty sure it's private to non-staff.
 

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I don't mind people taking issue with quality, but I'm usually the one who stops responding first so that's a pretty bizarre allegation. It's also intereresting how mr Bacon Sandwich took a quick look at my comment history, because I'm pretty sure it's private to non-staff.
If you search posts by username in the search function it shows them regardless of it you have profile set to private
 

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I don't mind people taking issue with quality, but I'm usually the one who stops responding first so that's a pretty bizarre allegation. It's also intereresting how mr Bacon Sandwich took a quick look at my comment history, because I'm pretty sure it's private to non-staff.
You can still find past post by searching specific words and terms and filtering by usernames.
 

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Marauding right wing gangs, spurred on by corporate fascists and their media outlets, shooting people in the street and not being convicted, reminds me of the Weimar Republic.
Media outlets indeed -- they're the ones guilty of making a mess out of this case making us believe he was some mass shooter.
 

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And that's what people like you don't get. That people don't think people should be killed just because they're bad.

Remember those quotes of yours that dumbo pulled up, on how you react to things based on what race the victims are? They showed you in a pretty shit light, you're as far from a "martyr" someone on Redcafe can get. However, I'm not Jeff so if someone shoots you I'd still say they probably shouldn't have done that.
Not what I said. Can you not read? We're talking about how he's being treated and celebrated after his death. His criminal history isn't why he died. If you want the reason he died, aside from the poor choices made by Rittenhouse in being out there that night, it was because he was hyper aggressive and out with the sole purpose of starting fires and stomping heads.

I remember that tedious nonsense from the riots thread, yeh. Unfortunately I could not give less of a shit about how people like you or dumbo misrepresent posts and posters.
 

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Media outlets indeed -- they're the ones guilty of making a mess out of this case making us believe he was some mass shooter.
A guy who goes into a crowd with an assault rifle and shoots people is not a mass shooter? What the feck is wrong with you?
 

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Marauding right wing gangs, spurred on by corporate fascists and their media outlets, shooting people in the street and not being convicted, reminds me of the Weimar Republic.
Is this post satirical or just plain ignorant?
 

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Im not convinced he would have even been found guilty of Wisconsin statute 948.60 because the statute was written by an idiot and if you read the statute in its entirety Rittenhouse technically didnt even violate that law the way it is written. You can argue what the law probably meant vs what it says word for word, but seeing as its a class A misdemeanor in wisconsin i can understand why little time if any was put on this angle.

I cant say i agree about what would have influenced the jury, i can however say the really big charges as it applied to the gun were left in by the judge. I think the fact that the gun was illegal would have been more impactful in other parts of the world or even other parts of USA. But certainly not in Wisconsin as it would appear.


the prosecution did my friend.


COUNT 2: FIRST-DEGREE RECKLESSLY ENDANGERING SAFETY, USE OF A DANGEROUS WEAPON

COUNT 3: FIRST-DEGREE RECKLESSLY ENDANGERING SAFETY, USE OF A DANGEROUS WEAPON

these two counts also had the dangerous weapons modifier that would have added extra five years on top of the 2 counts of reckless endangering. Which further puts the illegal weapons charge as a red hearing.
I know there were 2 lesser-included but Wisconsin seems to work differently than what I've seen. I've seen cases more like 3 charges, say 3rd-degree murder, manslaughter, and negligent homicide and the jury would deliberate on each charge from greatest to least based on the set of criteria. From what I heard of the jury instructions Wisconsin or maybe just this judge instructed a bit differently than what I've personally seen before.

Whether or not the weapon and curfew charges would have influenced anything is pure speculation but it certainly could have.

Yes I’ve seen your multiple posts about this “chase” and I’ve seen the video. But it hasn’t been proven afaik that he was pursuing anyone. All that can be proven is that he was running in that direction. His intent no one can know or prove, though his “threatening” or aggressive nature is subjective.
That's fine if you want to only speak about what can be objectively proven (Rittenhouse running right after the group).

But then you also have to apply that standard the other way and you can't assume that Rosenbaum would have taken the AR-15 and especially can't assume he would use it against Rittenhouse. None of that is proven either. It's also not proven Rosembaum would have taken the AR-15 since he could have just been reaching out reflexively after being shot and incapacitated. The only thing you can really say is that Rosenbaum charged Rittenhouse after Rittenhouse ran after the group.
 

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Why don't lots of black people wander around 'white' areas brandishing uzis..surely they'd be cheered on by the locals?
 

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Was not active here for the trial but based on what I have read, seen and heard, based on where this incident happened and what led to it - as complicated as this case is, this was the only outcome. Yep, details are messed up, things don't make sense, but America is a different World.
 

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What about the whole picture did I get wrong?
I find it crazy that a German gentleman would attempt to make the comparison. Especially citing “corporate fascists and their media outlets” as comparative.

I strongly suggest you look up some of the Weimar printed media from around 1926 on. If anything close was published in the US the fbi would be kicking the door down.

If that’s not evidence enough, look up evidence from state parliaments of that era and you will find ample example.

I’m simply incredulous at the fact you feel it’s comparable in any way shape or form. Overt racism is on the very fringes of society. You won’t find a single credible media outlet running cartoons with blacks as monkeys or child killers. If a member of the House of Representatives says nutty crap (hi Marjorie) they’ll be called out and ridiculed for it. And I must have missed the 200,000 strong ideologically driven paramilitary army dominating the streets too.

I’ll ask it another way: what actual (real not perceived) similarities are there that you see?
 

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I find it crazy that a German gentleman would attempt to make the comparison. Especially citing “corporate fascists and their media outlets” as comparative.

I strongly suggest you look up some of the Weimar printed media from around 1926 on. If anything close was published in the US the fbi would be kicking the door down.

If that’s not evidence enough, look up evidence from state parliaments of that era and you will find ample example.

I’m simply incredulous at the fact you feel it’s comparable in any way shape or form. Overt racism is on the very fringes of society. You won’t find a single credible media outlet running cartoons with blacks as monkeys or child killers. If a member of the House of Representatives says nutty crap (hi Marjorie) they’ll be called out and ridiculed for it. And I must have missed the 200,000 strong ideologically driven paramilitary army dominating the streets too.

I’ll ask it another way: what actual (real not perceived) similarities are there that you see?
Agree with everything here but the ‘fringes’ comment. Overt racism is a bit more engrained & widespread.