I hope eveyone can just allow a new manager some time to develop the team. Looks like we’re getting Poch who isn’t my first choice, but his teams play decent football and he’ll certainly bring through players and has a defined style of play.
If we don’t hire the manager you want…
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Yeah mine neither but like you say at least he has a defined style of play so happy to get behind this appointment and let him prove me wrong
I will support whatever manager comes in, because they are the manager of my club. If they prove not good enough by the end of the season, then I will want a change, but I will always support a new coach until they show that they don't deserve the job.
How hard is to set high standards, regardless of who the manager is, then give it X amount of time and if things look shit, not good enough, then we all have a go. What we will have instead is, people will come with whole package of nonsense, he needs his players so it can be his team, he needs at least 2 summer windows and 300mil. spent, he needs to get rid of deadwood first etc.
Hope i am wrong but sadly think we will see more or less same shit in here.
Hope i am wrong but sadly think we will see more or less same shit in here.
Think most would be fine with either poch or eth. Rodgers muchhhh less so. Some unqualified manager who is just a former player hell no
Succinctly put.
I am with any manager who will not give excuses if the performances are not up to the mark and whose team will display aggression and a mean streak which will make other teams respect us again.
2 main ones who would likely be good and Rogers.
Zidane, Poch, ten Hag I would really like. There are a few managers I'm sceptical about but I would give any of them a fair chance to prove themselves.
All I know is it better not be Rodgers. And if we plan on wasting the season with an interim then it better be Ten Hag next season
Read this two or three times as "winning early on is a waste of time" and could not understand!
Seriously, it looks like if you do not get ETH then a large section of the online fans, will be ready and waiting to pounce on the first bad result. Poch gets a bit more time than Rodgers, but to be fair your board shouldn't be contemplating a former Liverpool manager as that is just asking for trouble.
The thing is these days people like show off and to be negative and shouty in full online anonymity is too easy, so even if you got Rangnick as DoF and ETH as manager, which seems a very popular combo, you'd have sections of the fan base calling for them to go very quickly.
It looks like you're getting Poch right now, personally I think that'll be an interesting appointment, your squad fits the way we know he likes to play quite well, so it makes a lot of sense.
We don't really have a solution right now. I don't think Poch is a lot better than Rogers or even Moyes for that matter, surely an upgrade but he still would be the 5th best manager in the league if he joins us, which is not ideal for a club with title aspirations.
I don't know much of Hag but that is the direction we should be going towards now that we've lost a manager in Conte who was our best shot at a title challenge in the near future, and Zidane has refused to take the job. We should be looking at someone like Hag who could be the next big thing.
So yeah, there are a few directions we could go into now, each one comes with their own risks and rewards.
I don't know much of Hag but that is the direction we should be going towards now that we've lost a manager in Conte who was our best shot at a title challenge in the near future, and Zidane has refused to take the job. We should be looking at someone like Hag who could be the next big thing.
So yeah, there are a few directions we could go into now, each one comes with their own risks and rewards.
I will back whoever is in charge just like I backed Ole when he was here. I will try to be objective in my criticism as much as possible.
At the moment, I really have no particular preference for the next manager because I feel like the entire structure of the club needs a revamp. In other words, as long as the owners are the same ones, I am not sure how much a new manager will achieve.
At the moment, I really have no particular preference for the next manager because I feel like the entire structure of the club needs a revamp. In other words, as long as the owners are the same ones, I am not sure how much a new manager will achieve.
From the "Next Permanent Manager" thread poll,
most selected is ETH with 56%. So even in this case half of the Caf doesn't find him the best option.
And next most wanted is Zidane with 13%.
So if not ETH, 90% of the Caf doesnt wouldnt have wanted that manager as their first choice!
Given the state most of us are in now, mentally exhausted/frustrated/defeated, if the new manager has a poor first few weeks, This place is gonna erupt. The Ole-wars will be rekindled.
most selected is ETH with 56%. So even in this case half of the Caf doesn't find him the best option.
And next most wanted is Zidane with 13%.
So if not ETH, 90% of the Caf doesnt wouldnt have wanted that manager as their first choice!
Given the state most of us are in now, mentally exhausted/frustrated/defeated, if the new manager has a poor first few weeks, This place is gonna erupt. The Ole-wars will be rekindled.
If we get one of Ten Hag, Enrique, Flick, Poch, Mancini or even Rodgers I think they'll quickly win the fans over. I think people will be amazed to see, what I believe will be, a near instant contrast between whoever comes in and Ole and his team. Ole & his staff were so bad that anyone better than championship level will make it seem like night & day.
I've backed all our managers to the end and have no hard feelings for any of them bar Mourinho who towards the end of his tenure deliberately sabotaged us in order to get his payout IMHO
However I have no problem admitting that I'd struggle with Rogers. You just can't remove that particular past association for me. It would take a monumental achievement from him for me to warm to him
However I have no problem admitting that I'd struggle with Rogers. You just can't remove that particular past association for me. It would take a monumental achievement from him for me to warm to him
Imagine the story though. Was an inch away from ending Liverpool's barren run in the league, he would have been their Klopp, an absolute idol, instead he's just the man that didn't quite make it. Then he goes on a redemption arc & takes their most bitter rivals on a run that ends our barren spell in the league & finally achieves that PL medal that has probably haunted him ever since slippy G. Beautiful.
Non of us have any control over who the club appoints, we all have different opinions over who should take over but its completely out of our hands.
Whoever takes over I will support, but depending who it is depends on how much patience I may have with them.
I'm fine with the options being heavily linked currently (Poch or Ten Hag). Anyone else would be disappointing to be honest.
Although my preference is ETH, I’ll be ok with Poch or any other big name manager except Rodgers.
agreed, not egotistical David Brent wankers.
Yup, United fans and their weirdness with managers.
It’s not rocket science. You behave like a big club. Get a manager in and look for the development with results and style of play. If it doesn’t come you move onto the next one. Unfortunately for us our board are even more stupid when it comes to managers than a section of our fanbase.
I heard Scholes speaking during one of his punditry sessions where he mentioned during his time the players feared Fergie and that he's pretty sure players at Man City, Liverpool, Chelsea and now Spurs currently fear for their places under their respective managers - managers who are not afraid to dish out the "hairdryer" treatment. He said the top managers always install abit of fear in their players that when they do not perform they will lose their places to someone else. We have not had that with Ole and that is why the next manager needs to be a scary bastard.
I think we need to move on from the simplistic generalisations. Fergie's approach worked then but he already struggeled with the emergence of global superstar players, as we saw with Beckam. Its as much about respect as fear, and fearing for one's place in the team. The players liked Ole but didnt respect him as a manager, nor as we know did those in the team fear for their places, they played regardless of form. These players dont need to be screamed at to perform, but sometimes they need motivating, there is a difference.
I think and have said on here that I think Poch is a gamble, but I still like him as a manager and would get behind him happily.
Ten Hag is probably my first choice, but he's obviously a bit of a punt as well.
I don't buy into the idea that Rodgers would be a total disaster, even if I think there are better options available.
I'm not convinced by Zidane, any more than he seems to be convinced by us - but I'd still be excited to see him take on the job.
Enrique and Mancini are the two I think would come in with the lowest amount of risk, in terms of their proven track records, but it seems unlikely we're in for, or would land either of them.
So no, my preference not getting the job wouldn't stand in the way of me "supporting" the new manager. But what does supporting the new manager mean? Are we setting ourselves up to settle for mediocrity for another 2/3 years?
If a Manchester United manager is underperforming, the knives should be out. I and many others supported Ole to the death, and what good did it do us?
If a new manager comes in and gets the results he should be getting, everyone will row in behind him naturally anyway.
Maybe it's time we started looking at the likes of Madrid, Barca, Bayern or Chelsea, and the standards they demand, and start getting a bit more ruthless with our managers and out board.
Ten Hag is probably my first choice, but he's obviously a bit of a punt as well.
I don't buy into the idea that Rodgers would be a total disaster, even if I think there are better options available.
I'm not convinced by Zidane, any more than he seems to be convinced by us - but I'd still be excited to see him take on the job.
Enrique and Mancini are the two I think would come in with the lowest amount of risk, in terms of their proven track records, but it seems unlikely we're in for, or would land either of them.
So no, my preference not getting the job wouldn't stand in the way of me "supporting" the new manager. But what does supporting the new manager mean? Are we setting ourselves up to settle for mediocrity for another 2/3 years?
If a Manchester United manager is underperforming, the knives should be out. I and many others supported Ole to the death, and what good did it do us?
If a new manager comes in and gets the results he should be getting, everyone will row in behind him naturally anyway.
Maybe it's time we started looking at the likes of Madrid, Barca, Bayern or Chelsea, and the standards they demand, and start getting a bit more ruthless with our managers and out board.
Pretty simple, really. I'm firmly in the Erik ten Hag camp. Missing out on him is not good. That being said, I'll get behind anyone, as long as it's not Rodgers or Lopetegui.
Heed your own advise stop generalising , man management was one of the key strengths of Sir Alex he tailored his approach based on Individuals Characters , it wasnt one size fit them all and it mostly worked.
Wow, dial back the sensitivity. For all his strengths Fergie had weaknesses, he hated Beckhams off field profile, he hated super agents etc. That wasnt about 'tailoring' his approach, that was about his beliefs. And I am not saying they were wrong, but they became a problem. The 'hair dryer' is also far less common in modern top management. Yes you are right he was unmatched in team building and overall motivation. But the 'hardryer' is hardly the solution to the problems facing United. A bit like the fans I hear on phone ins wanting Keano to come in and 'motivate' the players. Really?
Remember this is a forim were we can post views.
I don't even dislike him myself - it's more a question of finding it very hard to take him seriously.
I feel like we'd be hiring a cartoon character.
And, yes, I'm obviously aware of the fact that he isn't a clueless manager - that has nothing to do with it.
People will kick, scream and bump every thread after a loss, making the same point again and again 
There’s only a few we’ve been linked with I really don’t want. Rodgers, Carrick, Southgate. Willing to give most others a chance.
Seems most agree on the above which is why the club cannot hire them. Fan appeasement is important.
Seems most agree on the above which is why the club cannot hire them. Fan appeasement is important.
It depends doesnt it.
I'd love Ten Hag, I'll be happy with Poch, and I'll accept Rodgers. Any competent manager will do.
Don't expect me to support somebody like Giggs though, or Carrick if we stupidly decide to hire him permanently.
I'd love Ten Hag, I'll be happy with Poch, and I'll accept Rodgers. Any competent manager will do.
Don't expect me to support somebody like Giggs though, or Carrick if we stupidly decide to hire him permanently.
Sack him! Not good enough. We should have got the other one.
On a serious note. Every manager needs time and should be given time. I'm (almost) always for that. There are some managers that have been RedCafe darlings. Even if I don't agree with some posters how "good" some of those managers are I'm going to support and wish the man in charge all the best. Even if that means me having totally wrong from the beginning. Those managers will and should be judged based on performance and progress of the team. And in the end, trophies.
i don’t trust the club to make the right decision. so i will assume anyone who gets it is wrong for the club and will feel the wrath of my ire from day dot. my mate big stu, manages one of the most profitable greggs franchises in the whole of the south west (of maidenhead.) he saw the writing on the wall with mourinho and thought he’d be proactive and applied for the utd job. he made sure his application showed the impact he’s made on their financials over the past 3 years, alongside a host of ideas he had for improving team performance. like racially profiling the squad, assaulting “under performing staff” in the car park in front of their loved ones, playing a round of soggy biscuit (but not in a gay way, he was very clear on this) before each away game to both kill time in the hotel and improve team morale.
woodward didn’t even have the good graces to reject his application due to him being over qualified for the position. the club is a piece of shit right now.
woodward didn’t even have the good graces to reject his application due to him being over qualified for the position. the club is a piece of shit right now.
We're Man Utd. Lose less and he'll be alright.People will kick, scream and bump every thread after a loss, making the same point again and again
I'll be fully behind whoever gets the job. All the candidates are actual real managers, unlike the last one,
My preferences won’t impact my judgment, anyone who steps in through that door should be expected to take big steps forward in the next 12-18 months if that’s not happening and he tries to lower the expectations then get the next guy in the line. We have wasted at least 5 years by sticking for far far too long with LvG/Jose/Ole. Even Moyes should have been done in November in any serious club.
Fair play, I have to admit to wanting a European coach, ETH if I was asked, but would accept any 100% and just get right behind them all again.
Having said that, my knowledge of Dutch voetball is practically all from our posters here, without them I'd be clueless.
I'm as guilty as anyone on the Rodgers link but comparing Poch and his winning teams who's fared better?
Heresy I know but maybe he'd invest so much personal attitude into the job he wouldn't let standards slip and he does have bit of that old school about him.
Definitely not arguing for him as such just a fear that maybe Poch has found his level, getting Tottenham to the CL?
It's been a weird few years, Moyes I couldn't ever see doing the job, van Gaal I thought was initially a transitional manager and I never liked Mourinho but had to fully support him.
And I thought Ole was going to be another transition. Never liked the idea of Conte so I really hope this all means that we get the right manager at the right time, this time!
Exactly this.
Yeah, do well and people will come around, but the claws will be out again even after one loss.
I've just decided that since that is unacceptable I'm not even going to think about it. It's so beyond unacceptable at this point that it would be like letting the tea lady become the interim manager... That is how unthinkable appointing Giggs or Carrick as permanent managers should be at a club this size - they shouldn't even be in the discussion for long term interims.