Will Ole get another PL job after this?

[adexkola]

If you mean he punched above his weight (managerial expertise) because he is a shite manager - sure. He managed to fool a lot of people for a lot of time.

on the other hand if you are Watford or Leeds in their current position in the table and looking at Oles resume - I wouldn’t touch him with a Bluetooth.. and I’m pretty sure most owners will think the same way.

I'm not sure how anyone can be so sure of this. Like someone has mentioned in this thread, worse managers have been appointed at different tiers in the PL. Regardless of the abject end to his tenure at United, he has some bright spots that may persuade a chairman or two to give him a chance. A

 

[Sky1981]

He fails so tragically at Cardiff it should have been a red flag. A very big red flag.

I dont think expecting him for top 6 or 8 is realistic but a good manager can analyze the squad better and given his resources he could have bolstered the defence, keep it tight and hit safety. But even in championship he failed badly.

What on earth do we think by hiring him.

 

[wise_old_man]

You're talking as if we've just come short of a title. We've imploded for the same weaknesses that left us trophyless and in bad runs of form previously. We've spent big on ill fitting players, that's easy.

Clubs will factor in the money he has spent.

You overestimate the common sense of football boards. There will always be someone desperate/clueless enough.
I mean the Glazers and Woodward, board of a big club like Manchester United are lamented on here as clueless. Surely all round Europe there would be some clubs with similar boards.

 

[Daengophile]

Ole will forever have a role following after Mourinho putting the sense of humour back in the side and fixing fractured egos

 

[Cnaiür urs Skiötha]

I am pretty sure he will be able to get a job in a few years time if he wants to. 2,5 years at the helm of Manchester United, finished 2nd and 3rd, quite a bit of PL experience.
Does not look that bad in theory.

 

[11101]

I think not. His only successes at United came from some of the players he bought that would be well beyond the means of most clubs. It seemed like he was a good motivator but his actual coaching was a total failure.

Having said that, the likes of Bruce, Hughes, Allardyce and Moyes continue to get jobs after periods of abject failure so who knows?

 

[Rolaholic]

I doubt it but at least he and his family are set for generations

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[roonster09]

I doubt it but at least he and his family are set for generations

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Why doubt it? He was here for 3 years and he was around 7.5 million per year.

 

[wolvored]

I mean the Glazers and Woodward, board of a big club like Manchester United are lamented on here as clueless. Surely all round Europe there would be some clubs with similar boards.

No way wherever you look will you find a board as inept as this.

 

[MUFC OK]

No and why should he?

We tried it, it was okay for a couple of years but was always falling short at the crucial time. This season was a disaster. He's left a good squad for the next manager. We need to close the book on this now but don't see why any PL club would take the same gamble on him.

 

[wolvored]

He got a job when he hadnt had a great first run of games as united manager getting him the permanent job, or doing well at Molde. He had done nothing and got the Cardiff job.

Now hes done something. Something that hasnt been good enough for a club wanting to challenge for the title, but far better than most managers at the bottom premier league clubs have done

Yes but he spent £440 mill in 5 transfer windows to win feck all. Bottom clubs aint going to be able to afford that.

 

[Rolaholic]

Why doubt it? He was here for 3 years and he was around 7.5 million per year.

I said I doubt in response to the question in the OP, no club will hire him in the PL.

He might get the Norway NT job at some point though but that's about it I suspect

 

[Ekeke]

Yes but he spent £440 mill in 5 transfer windows to win feck all. Bottom clubs aint going to be able to afford that.

They dont need to. They are trying to stay up not win something

 

[wolvored]

They dont need to. They are trying to stay up not win something

The point im making hes a chequebook manager first and foremost. He cant coach, he doesnt pick youth, he can only play one way, he picks his favourites regardless of fitness/form. So for him to manage he needs lots of money. Unless you had a rich owners team, (which doesnt make sense as they wouldnt be around the bottom anyway), then he would be fecked.

 

[MUFC OK]

They dont need to. They are trying to stay up not win something

I wouldn't call him a specialist in avoiding relegation either. Ultimately a managerial appointment is made in an attempt to make a squad punch above it's weight i.e. be more than the sum of it's parts - that's when you can say a manager and his coaches have done a great job. Ole at united made us less than the sum of ours. No club is going to look at that and think it's impressive.

 

[tomaldinho1]

I'm not sure how anyone can be so sure of this. Like someone has mentioned in this thread, worse managers have been appointed at different tiers in the PL. Regardless of the abject end to his tenure at United, he has some bright spots that may persuade a chairman or two to give him a chance. A

No chairman would deliberately pick a hands off manager though - it’s an outdated model that isn’t seen at all. It was classic United thinking that an antiquated setup would work when every other club has a head coach leading training. Ole was also semi hands off at Molde by his own admission, I don’t see how he’ll ever be employed unless it’s specifically for a non coaching role.

 

[redIndianDevil]

I doubt it but at least he and his family are set for generations

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Why would he need another PL after this? Retire happily in Norway managing a club there.

 

[KikiDaKats]

He might have not been the best manager at United but there are tonnes of clubs in top tier football that would appreciate it. He is shown some qualities and who is to say the United job is not the making of him. Did Moyes no harm at West Ham after his Spanish expedition.

 

[Vaultech]

He might have not been the best manager at United but there are tonnes of clubs in top tier football that would appreciate it. He is shown some qualities and who is to say the United job is not the making of him. Did Moyes no harm at West Ham after his Spanish expedition.

Moyes managed to make Everton achieve consistent top 6. Ole have not shown he could do the same with limited budget.

 

[KikiDaKats]

Moyes managed to make Everton achieve consistent top 6. Ole have not shown he could do the same with limited budget.

I beg to differ. That served him well in Spain.
The experience gained from managing a club like United is massive and some club will appreciate it. Prior to this summer a lot of fans accepted he has some good qualities as well. We can't wipe off everything that got him the full time appointment because things went bad.

 

[Max_United]

No idea how so many people still cannot see the difference between the likes of Moyes and Ole. Maybe because they are so United-centric. But the thing is, the owners of other clubs are not, and they will be looking at Ole's and Moyes' whole career and see that one of them at least has a long history of consistent outperformance relative to resources, so you can hope that he can recreate it. Ole has none of it. Any owner doing even cursory Due Diligence on Ole would find:

1. Molde. Ole had more resources than all other clubs in the League due to a billionaire owner. Won a few league titles initially and also had a decent EL run, but then regressed and could not win the title again despite the club being financially dominant. Had bad defensive record. Both times after he left, the club's performances improved, and they won titles, suggesting that it was him who was holding the team back. Fans were quite happy to let him go and astonished that United hired him full-time.

2. Cardiff. Took over when they were 17th, finished 20th. Spent 40m on 20 players, most of whom flopped. Promised attacking football - not delivered. No style, questionable selection and tactics. Was 17th in Championship next year despite the spending. After he was sacked, they improved and finished 11th.

3. United. Improved atmosphere after Jose, but very inconsistent, overall based on metrics only marginal improvement (on expected points we were 4th in both his full seasons and in general not much different from Jose and LvG) at best whilst spending a lot. Totally crashed in the third season after getting Varane, Sancho and Ronaldo. No style, questionable selection and tactics. Reliance on subpar coaching staff. Empty promises of game-time to squad players, favoritism, rushing players back after injuries. On the positive side - well-liked, initial good record against big teams, decent recruitment although for lots of money and no hidden gems uncovered. Limited youth promotion.

Overall, the picture is of a weak manager who has some good qualities, but they are by far outweighed by bad ones. Very little bang for the buck.

 

[Eli Zee]

Moyes managed to make Everton achieve consistent top 6. Ole have not shown he could do the same with limited budget.

ole with 0 transfers came in here and put us on a beautiful run of games where we finished 2nd that season. Maybe he can get a team playing good counter attacking stuff, but I wouldn't risk it if I was owner of aPL club

 

[Revan]

ole with 0 transfers came in here and put us on a beautiful run of games where we finished 2nd that season. Maybe he can get a team playing good counter attacking stuff, but I wouldn't risk it if I was owner of aPL club

Zero transfers as only Maguire, AWB, Bruno, Telles, Cavani, James, van der Beek and a bunch of kids, for the cheap price of over 300m pounds?

 

[RUCK4444]

Zero transfers as only Maguire, AWB, Bruno, Telles, Cavani, James, van der Beek and a bunch of kids, for the cheap price of over 300m pounds?

I assume he means when he first took over as caretaker and the excellent run we went on under him that originally got him the job. Which did happen in fairness.

I think other clubs, not sure what level, would like that sort of manager bounce. No guarantee of it of course.

 

[Revan]

I assume he means when he first took over as caretaker and the excellent run we went on under him that originally got him the job. Which did happen in fairness.

We started great, but after PSG game, it all went to crap. We finished the season with 2 draws and 3 losses in the last 5 matches, while we were fighting for UCL qualification.

 

[Orton]

ole with 0 transfers came in here and put us on a beautiful run of games where we finished 2nd that season. Maybe he can get a team playing good counter attacking stuff, but I wouldn't risk it if I was owner of aPL club

We won a bunch of winnable games and went to shit after PSG. Lost like 5 in the league after that. Not that good. We finished 2nd that season? Sure it wasn’t 6th?

 

[Max_United]

I assume he means when he first took over as caretaker and the excellent run we went on under him that originally got him the job. Which did happen in fairness.

I think other clubs, not sure what level, would like that sort of manager bounce. No guarantee of it of course.

Yes, the run (and that night in Paris) were great, but it ended quite quickly and at the end of the season we were utterly crap. We were 6th when Jose was sacked and we finished 6th, plus we were easily beaten by Barca in the UCL quarters. So for all the "vibes" the run did not bring anything really tangible.

 

[e.cantona]

Of course he can get a PL (or any of the top leagues) job after having been manager of one of, if not the biggest club in the world.

 

[RUCK4444]

Yes, the run (and that night in Paris) were great, but it ended quite quickly and at the end of the season we were utterly crap. We were 6th when Jose was sacked and we finished 6th, plus we were easily beaten by Barca in the UCL quarters. So for all the "vibes" the run did not bring anything really tangible.

No I'm not saying it did (other than getting him the gig full time), just replying to the point the original poster was making about that initial run/bounce he provided.

 

[Max_United]

Of course he can get a PL (or any of the top leagues) job after having been manager of one of, if not the biggest club in the world.

Not saying that he would never be able to (he needs only one offer of almost 100 clubs after all), but there is a difference between Ole and most managers with unsuccessful spells at big clubs. Most got those gigs on the back of success elsewhere - so a smaller club can look beyond the failure at big club and say "ok he is not good enough for United/Barca etc but he showed that he is good at around our level so he could recreate it". Ole got United job after actually failing at lower level. So he would be perceived as a lot higher risk than the likes of Moyes and even Lampard. He is more comparable to someone like Solari, who managed to get a job only in Mexico after RM.

 

[Rash Decision]

He’ll be back with us before we know it.

“Manchester United are determined to learn from their past mistakes after the failure of Mauricio Pochettino to win them either the Premier League or Champions League, despite investments totalling nearly £500 million over two years under the Argentinian. With Ole Gunnar Solskjaer having magnanimously offered the beleaguered club a second chance, the club hierarchy are more convinced than ever that success will only be found by seeing their original long-term plan with the Norwegian at the helm to fruition.”

 

[devilish]

I am very disappointed with Ole as manager. Don't take me wrong, we knew from day 1 that he's inexperienced. We can't blame him for that. However he

a- went full nepotism mode by hiring his Cardiff/Molde staff + ex players
b- he didn't bother coaching the team
c- he went on a holiday in the middle of a crisis

That stink of lack of professionalism and quite frankly.....laziness.

The EPL is extremely rich and competitive. Clubs can't afford someone whose interpretation of being a big club

 

[NinjaZombie]

The only way he'd get a job at the Prem will be if he took Salford to the top himself.

 

[Forevergiggs1]

ole with 0 transfers came in here and put us on a beautiful run of games where we finished 2nd that season. Maybe he can get a team playing good counter attacking stuff, but I wouldn't risk it if I was owner of aPL club

Pol Pot and Ghengis feckin Khan could of came in and lifted the mood of the squad after the previous 3 disasters at the club. It really was a case of go out and enjoy yourselves lads with minimal coaching. Once we had something to play for (top 4) Ole shat the bed and it all went swiftly downhill from there.

And we didn't finish 2nd that season. We finished 6th.

 

[VanDeBank]

217 people here are utterly delusional

Logically he shouldn't. But if they argument is "some club will be dumb enough", it's not far fetched. Just look at the chimps in charge at Utd.

Somewhere, someplace there could be someone more incompetent than Woodie.

 

[Greck]

Can we finally reach a consensus that Ole's contract renewal was very very very incredibly stupid. There was no fathomable situation where it could have put the future of the club in a better position. No one was coming for him and he wasn't leaving if they did. We might have doubled maybe even tripled his dismissal payout. Most disappointing is the people who had long berated Woodward and the club for questionable renewals were suddenly on board the decision simply because it favored a guy they liked. I don't know far deep heads were buried in sand to dismiss any possibility of things going south under Ole (like they had several times in his tenure already)

 

[UnofficialDevil]

I doubt it but at least he and his family are set for generations

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He made more than that. 7,5m a year for 3 years plus the sacking compensation, probably 30m plus. He is now is a 48 year old multimillionaire for doing nothing thanks to Woodward. He can enjoy the rest of his life a very very rich man.

 

[UnofficialDevil]

Can we finally reach a consensus that Ole's contract renewal was very very very incredibly stupid. There was no fathomable situation where it could have put the future of the club in a better position. No one was coming for him and he wasn't leaving if they did. We might have doubled maybe even tripled his dismissal payout. Most disappointing is the people who had long berated Woodward and the club for questionable renewals were suddenly on board the decision simply because it favored a guy they liked.

What was incredibly stupid was giving him the manager job way to early when he was still interim. If they had waited till the end of that season common sense would have not made him manager.

 

[stepic]

He made more than that. 7,5m a year for 3 years plus the sacking compensation, probably 30m plus. He is now is a 48 year old multimillionaire for doing nothing thanks to Woodward. He can enjoy the rest of his life a very very rich man.

i'm sure he was already a multimillionaire before this contract.

 

[Cascarino]

He had a better league record in terms of league finishes than Rodgers did at Pool, and it didn't stop the latter from eventually landing on his feet at Leicester.

Rodgers did brilliantly at Swansea though, and is generally just a better manager.

I said earlier in the thread that I thought Ole would eventually get another PL job, but his Cardiff stint will definitely hinder his chances. If his time in the league had only been his United tenure, I think his chances would be significantly higher.

I hope he gets another chance one day, but it’s a different scenario to the likes of Rodgers and Moyes.