Ralf Rangnick | ex-interim manager | does anyone rate him?

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Hmm. Well, we acted quickly which is commendable. Not sure about what he may be, realistically, be able to do in six months, so that's a bit of an issue for me... Does he help choose the permanent manger? And what are the implications if he does? A new manager will need to align with his style and playing strategy, which may reduce options for an appointment, so l would appreciate a little more clarity on his role and the longer term plans, and how the club sees this working. (I'm not sure who would even make this announcement on behalf of the club...).

But he sounds respected, and has done some v good things... It's interesting, and I hope his style is current, not Schalke 2010 etc...
 

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Post Fergie we have tried every successful philosophy out there under different managers. We tried Pep’s/dutch possession based football through Van gaal. Then we tried defensive football through Mourinho. Then we tried to emulate Sir Alex formula and football through ole. Now we go for Gegenpress through RR. The ideas were ok but every time we picked the wrong person to emulate it. Every single candidate either was past it or didn’t have it in them to properly do it. I hope we didn’t make the same mistake with RR and given Rangnick managed for only 2 years in the last decade doesn’t fill me with confidence. He talks a good talk but so does Bielsa and so did LVG and nobody was better than Louis Van Gaal at that. Fingers crossed:nervous:
 

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I'm reading some of the posts since the Ralf announcement has been made and the concerning thing is that some come across as suggesting or thinking there will be a massive shift in our playing style etc straight away and we could be winning trophies by the end of the season.

Now I'm not saying we won't win a trophy or that it wouldn't be nice to suddenly see a team performing to a high level. However I think we need to be cautious and patient here. I think there maybe a bit of pain initially and a lot of banter/abuse from opposition fans. Depending how n how much work is needed to get the players, culture of the club etc back on track.

For me these next 6 months are not as results focussed but seeing a change in attitude, culture, players used or dropped etc

Ultimately what I know of RR (and I was touting him a couple of years back) has me excited as I think we will be having a plan and a structure in place that we don't currently. His appointment isn't about the short term but benefits for the mid to long term.
Agree. I'm expecting very little change in the short term, it's more about priming this squad for next season now. We're not even going to have that much time on the training pitch over the next month or so in between games.
 

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Not gonna lie I dont know what to make of this. Mainly cos I know nothing of his cnut.

Obviously it's exciting as most new signings are.

I just hope we play like a good proper team again and win titles
 

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Based on what I've read of him so far Rangnick is probably one of the best experts in modern football. The only reason big clubs haven't signed him yet is him demanding full control of the football matters, which of course wouldn't go well with most of the big clubs.

He refused the coach position at Chelsea so in order to persuade him to come here we must have offered something bigger, the DOF role with full power for example. Imo his first six months is actually only a trial, if things go well he'll be escalated to be the one who run the football side of United from now on. We'll definitely hire a new coach this summer but he'll be the one to decide who. Also the whole structures and organisations of how that side would be run. While the commercial side would be run by Arnold and co.

This potentially would be the life changing, absolutely required appointment United has been desperately needed in the past decade post SAF. Maybe a bit too hopeful and premature from me but I really hope it's the case.
Agreed and it's what I'm hoping to see too. We've just wasted three years on a project that consisted of lifting the mood of the dressing room. Now it's time for something that's actually meaningful and significant; an overhaul of our footballing structure to not only implement a better style of play, but to provide continuity and better transition between future managers (head coaches?) Finally we may be moving into the modern era as a football club.
 

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Well, at least this season that's just not true imo. Maguire is in horrible form.

Even his passing has been awful. He will have to get better asap and Shaw as well.
I agree that he’s generally been awful this season so far.
he did however hit one beautiful pass to put Rashford clean in which was messed up
 

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From what I have read about Ralf is his teams play a high energy pressing game so with that style a really fit team with a high work ethic would be required and that is not us as is reflected by metres covered compared to other sides in the Premier League so I hope our players are prepared to lift their work rate for the new boss and not push back like they did to Moyes not so long ago.
I do remember that Schalke side we played in the semis a few years ago and they were one of if not the worst side I have seen reach that stage of the competition but I cannot remember if they had big names or not; I think Neuer was their GK at the time.
It is going to be an interesting time and I just hope all the players give 100% to Ralf and cut out the “We will bounce back” shite and teary apologies after any future gutless displays and just realise where they are and who they play for.
 

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Could we have actually stumbled upon our genuine next long term manager? he is in the mould of fergie in terms of playing attacking football and will happily take full control of the entire club from top to bottom with a clear blueprint which would suit the glazers perfectly.
 

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Why if he is so good and the majority here happy to get him, he hasn’t managed any top side?
 

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Why if he is so good and the majority here happy to get him, he hasn’t managed any top side?
He is good at a specific thing - laying down tactical foundations and then buildup the football club. In the former I guess he's a bit like Bielsa. So we're getting a teacher type coach who can offer the club a lot in years to come. That seems good for an interim appointment. Obviously he's not a top manager, we all know that.
 

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Could we have actually stumbled upon our genuine next long term manager? he is in the mould of fergie in terms of playing attacking football and will happily take full control of the entire club from top to bottom with a clear blueprint which would suit the glazers perfectly.
Probably not. You never know in life, but I'd be happy if he just did as much to lay a platform of modern footy for the permanent manager, or at least start that process.
 

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I hope we give Ragnick absolute authority to mold the squad and make us a European powerhouse again. Give him an unlimited budget and 3 years and I'm incredibly optimistic.
Not a big fan of him as a manager but read about his work as a director of football and I'm impressed.
 

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Really excited for this appointment they actually made a footballing decision! He's the right type of interim manager to come in and give some identity to the players and bring a style of football we so desperately need. Also getting him to stay for another two years after is great he can oversee the whole structure of the club and bring us into the modern era, I hope he will do whatever he can to bring in Erik Ten Hag in the summer.
 

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United brand is winning, when you win a new sets of fans are born. The rest are just romance.

Sure I started during 92s where we're still forming our dominance, but i wont even see us on tv if we're not successful and facing Juventus on the Champions league.

So all those united dna mumbo-jumbo and wing play etc means nothing if we're spanked left right center playing like a bozo against well drilled team

Ask chelsea fans, what sort chelsea way they're playing? The winning ways.

United ways is worthless without the trophies to back our ways.

I'm practical, any winning ways is united ways. Renarate it as Renaissance, resurgence, new MU, or whatever, win first talk later
I agree, while everyone wants to play entertaining football we’d still have either Moyes, LVG, Mourinho or Ole if any of them were continually winning trophies. We’d obviously be whining about the football and any bad run would be magnified but they’d carry enough credit to see them through. There were moans about our play in SAF time particularly the last few years.
 

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"All those 3 players, including Mo Salah, were when they came to Europe, were not natural born ball winners. None of them. They were not the kind of players where everyone went 'Wow, they are pressing machines!' All of the things that happened at Liverpool were the job of the coach and coaching staff."
Exactly. Everyone presses at Liverpool. And at City. That's why they win. Ronaldo's goals are great, but you have to subtract them from the unseen goals we won't score because one of our front guys won't press. For example Mbappe scored against Man City on Wednesday but didn't press. And so PSG lost and always looked like loosing.
 

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I do remember that Schalke side we played in the semis a few years ago and they were one of if not the worst side I have seen reach that stage of the competition but I cannot remember if they had big names or not; I think Neuer was their GK at the time.
They had kicked the shit out of reigning champs Inter in the QFs, 7-3 aggregate. They had the remnants of Raul leading the side with a mixture of castoffs and youth from what I see. Howedes, Matip, Neuer some of the known youth that excelled. There have been a few posts many pages back that describes Schalke's performances during this period. Rangnick took over in late-March before Inter QF round. Looks like Magath had them doing well in Europe and DFB cups but struggling in Bundesliga.
 

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Ralf Rangnick Stiftung, a non-profit organisation founded by Ralf Rangnick, appears to confirm that he is the new interim manager on Instagram

Edit: they removed the post but here is what it said

 

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I'm looking forward to seeing what he can do here. I still feel burned by LVG and Jose coming into the job with massive expectations that they did not live up to in any way. Those bad experiences mean I'll wait to see what this guy can do before getting excited.

I find it impossible to believe that he'll be able to get Pogba and Martial pressing for 90 minutes every week. I hope the board are more confident than I am!
 

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It's not about what trophies Rangnick has won in recent years. It's about setting the course for United now and he is the right man. He has the expertise, the eye for detail and is good at transfers.

If United now find the right coach in the summer and make it into the CL, then that is the spin in the right direction. There needs to be someone pulling the strings in the background, the power of the club is there.
 

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Ralf Rangnick Stiftung, a non-profit organisation founded by Ralf Rangnick, appears to confirm that he is the new interim manager on Instagram

Edit: they removed the post but here is what it said

Looks like the post has been quickly removed. Rangnick is quite excitable isn't he. No secrets with this guy. Same thing happened with Milan and it indirectly caused Zvonimir Boban's sacking.

Would be lovely if he calls out whatever incompetence there is in the club so the fans have greater visibility into the current mismanagement.
 

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Seems firm in what he wants from players, says set pieces are very important, with the hiring of Ramsey I'm sure everything aligns to make him succesfull here
 

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I realize that German managers are in high demand, but hiring Rangnick now is about the equivalent of Arsenal signing Podolski when Germany was starting to produce all this amazing young talent.
Yeah I kinda agree with this. But he's our manager now so I'm going to back him plus we need football people at the club. Never mind the quality. We cant have accountants and businessmen making footballing decisions.
 

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Side note and seemingly on the same path as the Rangnick appointment, are we doing things the right way from now on?


 

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Post Fergie we have tried every successful philosophy out there under different managers. We tried Pep’s/dutch possession based football through Van gaal. Then we tried defensive football through Mourinho. Then we tried to emulate Sir Alex formula and football through ole. Now we go for Gegenpress through RR. The ideas were ok but every time we picked the wrong person to emulate it. Every single candidate either was past it or didn’t have it in them to properly do it. I hope we didn’t make the same mistake with RR and given Rangnick managed for only 2 years in the last decade doesn’t fill me with confidence. He talks a good talk but so does Bielsa and so did LVG and nobody was better than Louis Van Gaal at that. Fingers crossed:nervous:
TBF we've tried every has-been successful philosophy. My concern with Rangnick as our manager is his managerial record and the fact that he's indirectly admitted to being a has-been (Nagelsmann, Tuchel and Klopp have surpassed him). I'd love it if we could still bring someone like ETH or Poch in right now together with Rangnick to salvage this season.
 

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Side note and seemingly on the same path as the Rangnick appointment, are we doing things the right way from now on?

If we have to accept the nepotism and inept cronyism running at senior levels of the club, then this is the next best course of action. Hopefully the cronies do not impede progress and allow the genuine talents to flourish. I think they're able to, Ole was just the wrong man.
 
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