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Ballon d'Or 2021 | Lewandowski robbed again
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Agree...and he can't dance like Lewa
So we are now treating the award as a concession trophy? In that case Lewandowski should have won as he was clearly the best player in the world the year France Football made the daft decision to cancel the award eventhough all major club football competitions were still decided on the pitch.
This is honestly the biggest reason for the push back here IMO. The last year should have counted for something in terms of individual awards and in losing the cointoss to Messi this year (there are absolutely arguments for Messi winning it on the merit of this years performances) it feels like another major robbery towards him.
The sensible thing to do from the start by France Football would have been to take both the last and this year into consideration for the Ballon D´or and then it would have been undoubtly be Lewandowski who would have deserved it the most.
Of course stats matters, why do you think Messi & Cristiano are two of the GOATS in football history?
Lewandowski was 100% robbed and the stats I provided speaks for itself
By that criteria alone (G+A), Messi would have 10 more balon de ors than the next person. Stop moving the goalpost
Sneijder won all he could in 2010 - we heard that numbers matter, not trophies.
Ribery won all he could in 2013 - we heard that numbers matter, not trophies.
Lewandowski had great numbers in 2021 - we hear that fecking Copa America matters.
Ribery won all he could in 2013 - we heard that numbers matter, not trophies.
Lewandowski had great numbers in 2021 - we hear that fecking Copa America matters.
Ronaldo 1997It's funny how suddenly the Copa America is one of the greatest competitions in the world and the winner should definitely be rewarded. This is the first time I can remember that the winner of the Copa America also won the Ballon D'Or. It's honestly only because Messi won it that is gained this grandiose allure
Brazil won in 2019 and Allison didn't even make the top 5 despite having winning the UCL and having a great domestic season. Sanchez won the best player in 2016 but didn't even get in the top 30 that year, despite also having a great start to the 2016-17 season as well.
Of course, although this is 2021 Ballon d'Or and Lewandowski should've won it.
Lewandowski not winning the Ballon d’Or this year is the biggest robbery since Lewandowski not winning the Ballon d’Or last year.
Shit award, glorified by moronic fanboys.
No idea why anyone takes this seriously, apart from the players who have contract bonuses and monetary value riding on this.
No idea why anyone takes this seriously, apart from the players who have contract bonuses and monetary value riding on this.
How many did Cannavaro scored when he won it? And Modric?
The media, Argentina and the fans that don't like Messi put so much importance in Messi not winning Copa America, when he finally won it, it seemed like the champions league.
Actually is was Rivaldo in 99 as the latest, that too was considered robbery given our treble and Beckham not winning it
Farcical
They claim they did!
Messi with great numbers & Copa > Lewa with great numbers & BL. it really isn't that complicated.
Its a combination of individual performances and team achievements. While Sneijder had a 9/10 year team trophies-wise, individually he was on a different galaxy than Messi, nobody is touching 2010 Messi individually. Sneijder wasnt even a top 3 that year for a reason.
Then why is it always awarded and advertised for the entire year, if by design it completely ignores around a third of the time when highest level football is regularly being played?
Uh? Really? Haven't heard that till now.They claim they did!
Why are you all taking it so seriously??
It’s like footballs version of Eurovision
Who cares who wins it, it’s a load of crap anyway
It’s like footballs version of Eurovision
Who cares who wins it, it’s a load of crap anyway
Messi playing in Ligue Un > Lewandowski playing in Bundesliga as far as FF is concerned is a less complicated equation.
Eduoard Mendy losing out to Donnarumma despite him being PSGs reserve goalie.
Wait, what reallyThey claim they did!
? Yeah, then it is a farce. Nobody in their right mind would argue that Lewandowski was not the overall superior football player in that timeframe.That's the bigger disgrace for me.
How is Messi winning that? Ffs
This is an ex football award.
The journalists are from all over the world and only a few of them work for FF, the ones working for FF also don't follow that logic at all.
I knew I’d get a bite out of you for that one
Dropped vs Chelsea a few days before Messi wins the Ballon D'or, Ronaldo will be going in hard on a Carrick Shaped punch bag right now.
Maybe these elements all matter - the trophies as well as individual stats.
You people are just angry over stupid things now
The talk that he ‘would have won it’ in 2020 is pointless as they cancelled it for no reason + I would say he maybe would have had a 10% chance of winning it against Messi back then too. At club level Messi had basically the same season back then and Lewa had a worse season despite winning CL. Messi would have walked it in 2020 too and he’s absolutely walking it in 2022 unless Ronaldo wins CL or WC.
I barely watch this thread so you are kind of lucky.I knew I’d get a bite out of you for that one
So the winner of the Bundesliga should definitely be rewarded then ?It's funny how suddenly the Copa America is one of the greatest competitions in the world and the winner should definitely be rewarded. This is the first time I can remember that the winner of the Copa America also won the Ballon D'Or. It's honestly only because Messi won it that is gained this grandiose allure
Brazil won in 2019 and Allison didn't even make the top 5 despite having winning the UCL and having a great domestic season. Sanchez won the best player in 2016 but didn't even get in the top 30 that year, despite also having a great start to the 2016-17 season as well.
This is an individual trophy, it's actually quite simple, Messi is a better footballer than Lewa. End of.
Lewandowski has scored 14 more goals over the course of the year.
But Messi has 8 more assists, completed 185 more dribbles, created 63 more chances, 10 more big chances, scored 1 more match winning goal, won more points because of G/A, has 14 more MOTMs.
If you want to base it purely on goals + assists then Messi would have 9 Balon d'ors. Roy Makaay would also have won in 2005. (CR7 would only have 1).
I get it your player didn't win but let's not make it out to be as if it's some great robbery when he only had 6 more G+A than Messi throughout the year and Messi is clearly ahead on every other metric in a footballing aspect.
Messi: “can I just shock you; I like Lewa”
Messi has no idea wtf either of them are saying to him.
Lewandowski's fans are just bitter that their hero didn't get the award by putting 5 past every tinpot Bundesliga opposition.
Guaranteed to win the league title every year, Lewandowski starts every season without any competitors for top goal scorer.
I still can't forget the year Lewandowski hilariously lost out to Aubameyang for top Bundesliga goal scorer despite being part of a far superior title-winning squad. Did Lewandowski blame himself? No. He blamed his Bayern teammates.
And now he's blaming the Balon D'or organizers for a grand conspiracy of not giving him what he thinks he deserves. It's always somebody else's fault isn't it for Lewandowski?
Face it, he's not any better than a vast array of strikers out there, including the likes of Mo Salah. If Mo Salah couldn't win it, he sure as hell doesn't deserve to win it.
Guaranteed to win the league title every year, Lewandowski starts every season without any competitors for top goal scorer.
I still can't forget the year Lewandowski hilariously lost out to Aubameyang for top Bundesliga goal scorer despite being part of a far superior title-winning squad. Did Lewandowski blame himself? No. He blamed his Bayern teammates.
And now he's blaming the Balon D'or organizers for a grand conspiracy of not giving him what he thinks he deserves. It's always somebody else's fault isn't it for Lewandowski?
Face it, he's not any better than a vast array of strikers out there, including the likes of Mo Salah. If Mo Salah couldn't win it, he sure as hell doesn't deserve to win it.
Because his stats in the Champions League and the World Cup were nothing special. He scored 6 goals in the Champions League; there were many people ahead of him. He scored 1 goal in the World Cup.
No one cares. You pulled this metric out of a toilet, because it is shit.