The Smith-Rowe strike that gave Arsenal the lead. Correct decision?

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Such a bizarre goal to say the least. Question is: should it have been allowed?

It’s pretty obvious to me that DeGea is overestimating the fact goalies are generally well protected in situations occurring in the penalty area and by staying down with his back towards the opposition the ref would blow the whistle.

The injury was not only inflicted by his own teammate but apparently not as serious as was first made out to be.

It was of mega importance to get the decision right. If the goal had been disallowed we’d be having Gk’s hitting the deck as soon as the opportunity arises.

So correct decision and an act of craziness from De Gea.

Apart from that he saved us so he’s forgiven!
 

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I don't see how any other decision could have been made here to be honest. You disallow that goal and you could have players bumping into their goalkeepers at any opportunity to stop the flow of the game. I was surprised they were even thinking about it.
 

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Yep, correct decision and shocking from De Gea. Don't think there is any argument really.

Deserves a goal given against him for being such a drama queen.
 

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The thing is had De Gea been a little more to his right the ball could have struck his head and he could have been killed.
 

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Yep, correct decision and shocking from De Gea. Don't think there is any argument really.

Deserves a goal given against him for being such a drama queen.
He thought it was an Arsenal player that bumped into him. There is no other explanation for such stupidity.
 

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Yes. De Gea should be embarrassed and apologize to his teammates.
 
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I think the refs gotta do better there, he’s got tunnelvision.
I expect most refs would’ve noticed almost immediately and blown up, by the time he notices it’s too late and he is left with no real choice.
 

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Frustrating for us? Yes
Correct decision? Yes

As long as this sets a precedent for the future then ultimately the debate will die.

Had this been a serious injury, you would've hoped that Arsenal would give an immediate equalizer but they did nothing wrong in this instance.
 

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Correct decision even though it pissed me off. Arsenal's reaction to the goal was embarrassing though. Pathetic to celebrate like that after scoring in an empty net.
 

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Correct decision but Smith-Rowe is a little turd, obviously knew keeper was down and acted completely unsportingly. Embarrassing celebrations for an embarrassing football club.
 

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Technically correct. Ref had no choice. However very unsporting from Arsenal. It is not like they had clear chance of scoring and David went down to negate their advantage.
 

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100% goal, De Gea fcuked up royally, thought an Arsenal player hit him with the studs, regardless you stay on your feet and never turn your back. You're taught as a kid play to the whistle.In the end, didn't cost us and De Gea will surely never try that again. Lying with your back to play and then literally sprinting after the ref when he gets up, not his proudest moment, but a lesson learned.
 

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100% correct decision and I wish with VAR now, that the refs would always just let the play run if a goalkeeper falls and pretends to be injured. Far too often they just fall down under minimal contact and get a cheap free kick to relieve pressure, when nothing happened in the first place. Yesterday especially, you just can't fall down and start rolling around and turn your back to play. It doesn't hurt that much. Once refs stop calling those fouls on goalkeepers and let VAR do it, goalkeepers will stop falling over and trying to con the ref as they know it might result in an easy goal.
 

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If Fred broke his ankle would it still have been the correct decision?
 

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Correct decision in a number of ways. Firstly, he didn't blow the whistle before it hit the net and secondly it wasn't a serious injury (even though it probably hurt like at first) which even was caused by a teammate. Weird that Atkinson didn't stop the game at first, but correct in hindsight. Slightly embarrassing celebration, though.
 

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Correct decision but Smith-Rowe is a little turd, obviously knew keeper was down and acted completely unsportingly. Embarrassing celebrations for an embarrassing football club.

Goal is a goal. It's not the teams fault that the other team fecked up.
 

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It should have stood, but Arsenal should have let us walk the ball in the net after. Classless club, with a shite manager.
 

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Absolutely the correct decision. De Gea rolled on the ground because he thought an arsenal player stepped on him. Stupid decision by him, but he did make amends with some great saves later on.
 

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If Fred broke his ankle would it still have been the correct decision?
Yes? You don't stop the game in a dangerous position when a team hurts its own player. It's not arsenals fault that Fred stepped on De gea, their chance for a goal shouldn't be stopped because of something that they didn't cause.
 

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Yes? You don't stop the game in a dangerous position when a team hurts its own player. It's not arsenals fault that Fred stepped on De gea, their chance for a goal shouldn't be stopped because of something that they didn't cause.
He's a goalkeeper though, not an outfield player. I'd expect the rules to be slightly different for keepers because when they're down injured, it gives a significant advantage to the other team.
 

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Those ridiculing DDG - I have rarely seen, actually you know what I don't remember seeing David rolling in pain like that. Certain injuries can be very painful for a short period and the pain recedes after a min or so.

So give him some benefit of doubt before calling names.
 

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I think it's the right decision.

I also don't agree with this idea that you automatically blow up if the keeper is on the deck, especially if he seems to have thrown himself to the ground. Keepers get far too much protection as it is.
 

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Yes. There’s no debate
 

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Correct decision but I think it’s shocking sportsmanship. Not only do they claim the goal they celebrate like mad too. I think if they were actually good sports they would have given us one back because there’s no way that’s in the spirit of the game even if De Gea was a massive pussy. It’s an unwritten rule that you don’t score when the keeper is down injured in my opinion.
 

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He's a goalkeeper though, not an outfield player. I'd expect the rules to be slightly different for keepers because when they're down injured, it gives a significant advantage to the other team.
Doesn't matter IMO. It's like when a cross is played and a defender bundles into his own goalkeeper leaving an open goal for the attacking team. You fecked up, got in each other's way. That's all there is to it. A ref simply can't stop an attack/dangerous position because a player is on the ground. There's no way to know if it's a real injury or if a goalkeeper is faking/exaggerating (which happens in the vast majority of occasions, as it was yesterday), and a goalkeeper doesn't get to just feign injury to stop a dangerous opportunity. VAR can look at the play and determine if a foul happened after the play. It's easy. No foul, no call to make. You can't punish the attacking team when the defending team hurts each other. You let the attack run its course and deal with it after.
 

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Correct decision but I think it’s shocking sportsmanship. Not only do they claim the goal they celebrate like mad too. I think if they were actually good sports they would have given us one back because there’s no way that’s in the spirit of the game even if De Gea was a massive pussy. It’s an unwritten rule that you don’t score when the keeper is down injured in my opinion.

Pretty much where I stand on this.

Also having had someone tread on my achilles by accident on a pitch before, I can say no blame for De Gea here.
 

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People bringing up poor sportsmanship from Arsenal on social media/TV etc - it was De Gea with poor sportsmanship trying to con a foul! Very silly from him.

I can't see any blame placed on Arsenal for what happened.
 

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Correct decision but I think it’s shocking sportsmanship. Not only do they claim the goal they celebrate like mad too. I think if they were actually good sports they would have given us one back because there’s no way that’s in the spirit of the game even if De Gea was a massive pussy. It’s an unwritten rule that you don’t score when the keeper is down injured in my opinion.
Was it shocking sportsmanship when Nani scored that one goal vs Spurs? The other team fecked up, you take your goal. Can't cry about fecking up yourself. Don't let it happen in the first place is the answer.
 

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I think it was very unsporting of Smith Rowe. When someone like Di Canio shows a higher level of fair play than you, then you have issues.
 

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It was the lack of decision before he scored that was the feck up. Play should have been stopped much earlier.
 

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legally yes, morally no.

Arsenal should have given us a goal back IMO. I'd feel a bit pathetic winning a game through that.
 

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The FA rules state ‘Play is allowed to continue until the ball is out of play if a player is, in their opinion, only slightly injured’, but it also states ‘Exceptions to this ruling are made only for: Injury to a goalkeeper’.

So shouldn’t play have been stopped as soon as the goalkeeper went down injured, regardless whether it was our player or an arsenal player that caused the injury?

Atkinson should’ve noticed De Gea was down injured and stopped play immediately.