Premier League Gameweek 17+18

[Carl]

Are there any other sports in the world where the officials aren't expected to explain how they reached their decisions? There's zero accountability at all.

 

[PoTMS]

That's some of the worst PL defending I've ever seen. Newcastle threw the match before it had barely started.

You don't remember us last season at home against Sheffield United?

 

[Classical Mechanic]

That we don’t ever get an explanation for these decisions is the most infuriating thing.

I think the thinking would be that Fraser isn't getting the ball and that goalkeepers get extra 'leeway' to do dumb and dangerous stuff. It's something that really annoys me. There shouldn't be anywhere on the pitch where you can just wipe a player out nowhere near the ball. If Fraser's feet are planted there anything can happen.

 

[kouroux]

That's the most obvious penalty ever. Whoever is monitoring VAR should be sacked.

Maybe Atkinson told them to feck off ?

 

[padr81]

Weve had 2 huge decision go our way the last couple of games. Shocking really how we got the pen vs Wolves and how Newcastle hadn't one today. It is insanity. Some Liverpool 2 season ago style decisions going our way. Refs have to be held accountable

 

[FeedTheGoat]

Anyone watching that and concluding the Atkinson didn't make a clear and obvious error needs firing. There's obviously something else going on other than an objective decision based on the footage.

VAR in England is implemented to protect the referees on-pitch decision, not to secure the right decision.

The process when looking at footage from the start is "it there a way to justify the decision that has been made? " rather than the way it should be; "is this a foul?"

In it's current incarnation it is doomed

 

[kouroux]

Newcastle have been decent but in the crucial moments weak.

They had a decent little build up till then. The whole movement didn't need that dumb attempt

 

[Desert Eagle]

Because Atkinson.

Such a trash ref

 

[kouroux]

VAR in England is implemented to protect the referees on-pitch decision, not to secure the right decision.

The process when looking at footage from the start is "it there a way to justify the decision that has been made? " rather than the way it should be; "is this a foul?"

In it's current incarnation it is doomed

You nailed it with your first paragraph.

 

[FireballXL5]

The Saudis should forget acquiring players and concentrate on buying officials.

 

[Not a plastic hoe.]

VAR...
what a complete joke.

 

[SirAnderson]

That's the most obvious penalty ever. Whoever is monitoring VAR should be sacked.

Michael Masi. He ain't going anywhere.

 

[SilentWitness]

Weve had 2 huge decision go our way the last couple of games. Shocking really how we got the pen vs Wolves and how Newcastle hadn't one today. It is insanity. Some Liverpool 2 season ago style decisions going our way. Refs have to be held accountable

It's rank. Managers/Players that get these decisions need to start calling it out as much as the team that gets shafted.

 

[padr81]

Michael Masi. He ain't going anywhere.

Ederson and Fraser were just racing Toto.

 

[youmeletsfly]

Michael Masi. He ain't going anywhere.

If it's Massi he surely got it right.

 

[ZolaWasMagic]

Eddie Howe was a silly appointment by Newcastle. I was genuinely surprised to see their supporters happy with it.

 

[Pexbo]

I think the thinking would be that Fraser isn't getting the ball and that goalkeepers get extra 'leeway' to do dumb and dangerous stuff. It's something that really annoys me. There shouldn't be anywhere on the pitch where you can just wipe a player out nowhere near the ball. If Fraser's feet are planted there anything can happen.

If Edison doesn’t wipe him out he’s pressing and there’s an open goal as a reward for any mistake.

 

[choccy77]

Michael Masi in VAR today

Not Stevie Wonder?

 

[Withnail]

VAR in England is implemented to protect the referees on-pitch decision, not to secure the right decision.

The process when looking at footage from the start is "it there a way to justify the decision that has been made? " rather than the way it should be; "is this a foul?"

In it's current incarnation it is doomed

Yeah I agree, it seems fundamentally flawed. I don't know where they are going with this protect the decision of the precious on-pitch referees thing. The whole clear and obvious error bit is a fudge.

If the team of officials get the right decision then who gives a flying feck if the on-pitch ref didn't see it properly but VAR picked it up. It's infuriating.

 

[padr81]

It's rank. Managers/Players that get these decisions need to start calling it out as much as the team that gets shafted.

Yeah its going to need managers to call this shit out when it goes for them as well as against them for this to change. How anyone could get those 2 decisions wrong with the benefit of video is beyond me. Its ludacris, as the other City fan posted above, the VAR aren't looking to correct decisions, they are looking to back up their friends on field decisions. Its stupid, "We have the technology but we're not gonna use it"

 

[Samid]

Eddie Howe was a silly appointment by Newcastle. I was genuinely surprised to see their supporters happy with it.

Those supporters didn’t see Eddie Howe, they saw ‘not named Steve Bruce’.

 

[CloneMC16]

You don't remember us last season at home against Sheffield United?

That was bad, but this was worse. The keeper just stands there when he can easily come out and catch the ball.

Maybe Atkinson told them to feck off ?

The game would have to stop for him to do that. He didn't look at the monitor to watch it again. The people checking it decided it was fine for some reason.

 

[choccy77]

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Newcastle player should get a yellow for diving no?

 

[Withnail]

Ederson and Fraser were just racing Toto.

(In the most condescending tone possible) It was a football match.... Ok?

 

[Lecland07]

Eddie Howe was a silly appointment by Newcastle. I was genuinely surprised to see their supporters happy with it.

They were going down no matter who they got. Their team is complete trash.

 

[CraftySoAndSo]

I'm starting to think no amount of money can save this Newcastle side.

 

[SilentWitness]

Eddie Howe was a silly appointment by Newcastle. I was genuinely surprised to see their supporters happy with it.

It depends what they're looking for. If you want a manager to get you straight back up from the Champ then it's a decent appointment.

 

[90 + 5min]

That we don’t ever get an explanation for these decisions is the most infuriating thing.

Agree. Been saying that for ages. Referees need to explain decisions on tv or hav a mic on for audience.

 

[klsv]

Could Chelsea not have a couple of youngsters on the bench at least?

 

[Samid]

Could Chelsea not have a couple of youngsters on the bench at least?

Different bubbles. If there’s covid in the first team, why put the kids at risk too?

 

[klsv]

Different bubbles. If there’s covid in the first team, why put the kids at risk too?

Yeah, didn't think of that.

 

[Cloud7]

VAR in England is implemented to protect the referees on-pitch decision, not to secure the right decision.

The process when looking at footage from the start is "it there a way to justify the decision that has been made? " rather than the way it should be; "is this a foul?"

In it's current incarnation it is doomed

Var always seemed to be met with reluctance by the referees in England so it's no surprise that they seem to be using it to protect the on field decisions.

 

[sullydnl]

Agree. Been saying that for ages. Referees need to explain decisions on tv or hav a mic on for audience.

The difference hearing the rationale for a decision from the ref and VAR (as you do with the ref and TMO in rugby) would make is massive.

 

[One Night Only]

What's with all the bandages on Saint maximin?

 

[Idxomer]

Chelsea playing much better in the 2nd half.

 

[Gazautd18]

Longstaff looking like a WW2 fighter pilot

 

[Scarlett Dracarys]

When will City lose again?

 

[DomesticTadpole]

That looks onside to me.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Goal stands.

 

[Ayoba]

When will City lose again?

From our pov hopefully not for a while if we need them to win the league over Liverpool