He's earned far more than that, he's on 4million a year.So, Jesse, in 7 years as a premier league player you've managed to amass a fortune to the tune of £10m whilst scoring a total of 29 goals, how do you feel about that?
Jesse Lingard 'to leave on a free'
- Thread starter Ranchero
- Start date
Mike Phelan is worth multi billion. £10m is peanuts.So, Jesse, in 7 years as a premier league player you've managed to amass a fortune to the tune of £10m whilst scoring a total of 29 goals, how do you feel about that?
Think about it. Barca are after all kinds of average players they can get as cheap as possible as they cant pay any top wages. What difference is leaving now to leaving end of the season, if you ar only going to end up at West ham or Newcastle anyway? There must be some big team who has turned his head, that he has changed his mind about leaving in Jan.
I have just answered @Eyepopper my thining further. It may sound like madness. but I cant think of another explanation why hes suddenly changed his mind. I cant see RR telling the board to give him a new contract as he is going to be a regular here, after all his time.
You say you cant make someone leave, I say you just arent beating them hard enough
A few more million when signing on as a free agent.
Crazier things have happened I guess, not many, but I'll do you a deal, if Lingard signs for Barcelona I'll live stream myself eating a bowl of warm dog shit.
I'll hold you to that mateHe's homegrown talent who was born a spit away from Manchester. Surely he loves the club enough not to leave on a free. Could it be the case that a homegrown local talent would only give a feck about his pockets? That's impossible
That’s a predictably stupid comment from you. It’s quite possible (in fact, likely) that he loves the club and wants to leave to play regular football in the most lucrative way possible. Which is exactly what you (or anyone else) would do in the same situation. A decision which is made even easier when he’s constantly in the firing line of the millions of toxic wankers infesting our fanbase (many in this thread)
I agree and disagree.
say I was an actor, offered a chance to play a leading role in a movie franchise I love but one that also has millions of loyal fans across the world. Thought I could do a good job but acknowledged when accepting a multi million pound paycheck that it came with responsibility and if I fuked up, in this day and age, all those millions of fans were gonna let me know.
Personally, I would take the fuking cash, live my dream, but fully expect to be lambasted if I didn’t do a good job. At the end of the day it’s the Movie company’s fault for not recognising I wasn’t good enough and trying to protect the franchise better.
Jesse is a grown ass multi millionaire adult who has more access to resources to help him deal with nasty comments from fans. While I don’t condone pointless slagging and negativity...some perspective is required when people go the other way and make these guys out to be defenseless and completely subject to circumstance. Jesse wasn’t, he knew what he was taking on. It’s hasn’t worked out. The end.
Don't blame him, this is on ole telling him he had a future here. Ole has made so many mistakes and this is another that cost the club millions in a transfer fee.
I would have handed a transfer request and left long ago for a fee. You don't shit on the very people that made you and were patient with you throughout most of your career. There again I am no local lad/talent so I might not know what Manchester United is all about
Also if you do a shit job you get slagged off for it. That happens in most jobs
Last edited:
With all these players on unbreakable contracts making huge wages is it time to change the contracts that we offer players.
Unless you are an A* player contracts for the youth coming through or transfers in from Southampton or Crystal Palace or wherever should get 18 month contracts with the club's option to extend for a year at a time, and a modest fee going to the player for the exercise of that option.
With regard to salary if you have joined and are not a proven world class player the salary will be the same or marginally more than you were making before at your old club or in the youth team, but if you play for the first team you get the average wage of the first team for that week, and if you get on the bench for the first team you get a percentage, say 60%, of the average first team pay for that week.
Paying average players a fortune for not playing isn't sustainable financially and blocks progress either internally from the youth or our ability to try a better player. Come for 18 months on modest money, prove yourself or move on, and we will give someone else a shot is a system I would like to see is more aligned to.
Unless you are an A* player contracts for the youth coming through or transfers in from Southampton or Crystal Palace or wherever should get 18 month contracts with the club's option to extend for a year at a time, and a modest fee going to the player for the exercise of that option.
With regard to salary if you have joined and are not a proven world class player the salary will be the same or marginally more than you were making before at your old club or in the youth team, but if you play for the first team you get the average wage of the first team for that week, and if you get on the bench for the first team you get a percentage, say 60%, of the average first team pay for that week.
Paying average players a fortune for not playing isn't sustainable financially and blocks progress either internally from the youth or our ability to try a better player. Come for 18 months on modest money, prove yourself or move on, and we will give someone else a shot is a system I would like to see is more aligned to.
United need to offload him in January, even if its for £2-£5m
Why we hang on to squad players who hardly play, let alone give them stupid contracts. It is why we have fallen so far behind others.
Why we hang on to squad players who hardly play, let alone give them stupid contracts. It is why we have fallen so far behind others.
So we’ve had two classics on P13 thus far — “if he loves the club he’d play for free, or help us get loadsamoney for him” and the “rich people can’t be unhappy”. Any other cliches anyone wants to add?
Why are people acting as if he had clubs lined up for him in summer and he was willing to go to those clubs?
That isn't possible right, if he doesn't want to go to the clubs that are offering 2M
I refuse to believe you’re genuinely this clueless about how football transfers work. So you’re pretending to be clueless to shit on Lingard. Which is amazing really.
As fans I can understand the frustration people feel about certain players who don't seem to be "committed" to the cause.
However if I was a 29 year old football player in the same bracket as Jesse I would do exactly what he is doing. Tye next contract will be potentially my last. And I'd be looking to earn as much as possible, you're a long time retired as a sportsman
However if I was a 29 year old football player in the same bracket as Jesse I would do exactly what he is doing. Tye next contract will be potentially my last. And I'd be looking to earn as much as possible, you're a long time retired as a sportsman
There's absolutely no reason Jesse Lingard's next contract has to be his last at 29 years old if he has been looking after himself.
All I can say is that I'm just sick of Lingard in general. Yes, he's more than entitled to do what's best for his career and his bank account (and it's pretty hard to feel sorry for Woodward and co. in either this situation or in Pogba's.) However, I'd be happy to never see him play for us again. Unlike Pogba, who, for all his baggage, is most certainly of the required standard, Lingard is nowhere near, and never has been.
I did say potentially my last.
You're not wrong in terms of him having more than one contract, we don't know how it will go for him. However if his next contact is 3 years I don't think the one after will be as lucrative at 31/32 years old.
Good hes leaving. Should have moved on ages ago. Pogba as well.
I wouldn't believe it until both of them are gone for real. There is always the danger that the club gives them a contract and they lap it up.
Not that I disagree with you Pogue. And I don't, you are right. I just hope you see its the exact same for Pogba just that he gets shitted on even more for a trasnfer fee we paid for him that he is in no way responsible for.
I don't see Jesse wanting to play in Ecuador to be honest.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barcelona_S.C.
That's his own choice to put up with it for years, though. Perform shit for years while on mega wage, players most likely get social media "toxicity". That's not exclusive only for him.
And yeah, he has the right to loves the Club while still screw them over for his own gain. In United supporter POV, that's a shitty move on his part.
Last edited:
I don't see Pogba getting an England call-up either way.
Isn't that obvious?
He would get more money as a free agent in the summer. No transfer fee equals bigger signing on fee and wages.
You've asked me what I would have done and I gave you the answer. Are you suggesting that loyal players tend to let their contracts run to the end so they walk on a free? Ronaldo was Portuguese and despite wanting to join Real he still signed a new contract extension with us with the intention to strengthen our hand at the negotiating table. Del Piero took a pay cut to stay with Juventus. That's how loyalty and respect is shown.
The reality is that nowadays loyalty in football is so rare that it borders to non existent. Players are in it for the money and they hire cut throat agents to make that happen. There is nothing wrong with that really as long as we accept and embrace that. The trouble is that we are still stuck to a time where respect was mutual. At a well run top club Lingard would have been sold the moment his performances nosedived. Its all about meeting standards something Lingard had failed in for quite some time.
We made the guy the player that he is, we gave him is first team opportunity and we stuck to him when he was passing from a shit time. Now he's walking for free. I am surprised that it doesn't piss you off.
I never blamed Jesse tbh. He does what's best for him (I hope so anyway). Our club could have handled it better a while ago (like not renew his contract last time)
Last edited:
Yeah, exactly. Only one who really pissed me off is Jones with his interview; "Look at me haters, i am multi millioner and you work on your shit jobs".
Lingard did what most of us would do; took a chance. I mean; better to be a bench player in United for 100k than starter in Saints for 40k.
This is all on club
Moyes said that Lingard wanted to flstay in United. On top of that Solskjaer wanted him to stay. And that is the whole truth.
Ya. So the player didn't want to go to the only club that were interested in him. It is not entirely the club's fault that the player is not gone last summer.
It was badly handled by Solskjaer and that's the plain truth.
The time to move Lingard on was immediately after his loan spell at West Ham, there would have been at least half a dozen clubs wanting him at that time, and if Solskjaer had been honest with Lingard and told him straight "you're not in my plans, and I won't be selecting you" then Lingard would have taken a transfer offer.
Instead though Solskjaer did the exact opposite and promised Lingard plenty of game time, which he then didn't give him.
A ridiculous situation, no good for anyone, and no fault of Lingard's.
It will be melted Mars bars. Don't bother.
It's just so weird. He's at an age where he could play at a good level but doesn't push for it. You gotta wonder if he takes training as seriously as he used to when he started.
I think you’re talking about a different issue, though? With homegrown players the expectations are lower. If they don’t make the grade it’s no big deal. If you spend a lot of money on a player then they need to perform at a high level, or questions have to be asked (of the player and the manager who signed off on the transfer)
I don’t personally have an issue with either player leaving on a free. They’re always going to act in their own self-interest. What I would hope for, though, is a manager strong enough to freeze out any player who obviously has no interest in being here next season. Let them waste a season of their short careers playing reserve team football if that’s their attitude.
The only shambles is that we didn't get £20m~ off West Ham for him in the Summer. I don't understand what the point of keeping him was given how much he's played this season. Even more alarming considering the injuries to forward players we have had this season and the late move for CR7.
This is how football works now
Agree a contract with a player, player fulfills that contract and is then free to leave
Agree a contract with a player, player fulfills that contract and is then free to leave