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Think we have given up on spoilers now? Ts been released, people know better than to enter the thread now.
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I was suppose to watch it tonight, but got carried away with other stuff, will watch it in the morning, not even sure why I came into this thread though, but wasn't expecting spoilers but to know how to set my expectations, if it was shite or not more or less.
 

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Ah fair enough. Wonder if they'll give her money to make another one.
Pends how this does in the box office I guess. The ending suggests they might and I think they put enough in there to expand on.
 

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Pends how this does in the box office I guess. The ending suggests they might and I think they put enough in there to expand on.
I'd like to see a flashback movie with all that stuff of the machines fighting each other. They prob wouldn't make a movie without Keanu though.
 

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I'd like to see a flashback movie with all that stuff of the machines fighting each other. They prob wouldn't make a movie without Keanu though.
He’s in great shape for his age, CAM too but I think it suffered for their lack of mobility.
 

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He’s in great shape for his age, CAM too but I think it suffered for their lack of mobility.
Yeah they kind of focused on his Neo bullet blocking powers etc rather than the long hand to hand combat scenes. He's still doing it in the John Wick movies though. Fair play, I'm a big fan. Apparently he's a sound bloke too.
 

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Yeah they kind of focused on his Neo bullet blocking powers etc rather than the long hand to hand combat scenes. He's still doing it in the John Wick movies though. Fair play, I'm a big fan. Apparently he's a sound bloke too.
Yeah he’s solid gold. Absolutely top bloke by every account I have ever read.
 

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Yeah he’s solid gold. Absolutely top bloke by every account I have ever read.
Had the pleasure of meeting Keanu at a dog fight once. He was surprisingly coked up and VERY racist.
 

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I enjoyed it but I'm fully expecting it to get roasted. Despite leaning very heavily on the previous movies, it had enough going for it and enough thought put into it to be better than other franchise returns in the last few years. *Cough* Star Wars. I never thought I'd see these characters back on the big screen, so i'll happily take it.
 

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Yeah, they should have left this alone
 

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It's an absolute shitshow of a film. I mean, it's just really really bad. It's bad as a sequel, it's bad as a standalone film. It's poorly written, it's ugly, and the acting is dreadful. It really has no redeeming features.

I expect nothing and I'm still let down.
 

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It looks as though people are either loving it or hating it. Better than the collective 'meh it was fine I guess' response Marvel films tend to get I suppose, nothing wrong with a movie taking big swings and dividing opinion. Looking forward to seeing it.
 

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It’s so fecking bad. I hated literally everything about it. It looks like a cheap CW production for a start. Most of the new cast is appalling. It’s lost all of the grimness and grit of the original and changed tone entirely to something almost resembling satire. I thought it would take itself too seriously and be sort of Zak Snyder Justice League bad. Instead it went full Zak Snyder Sucker Punch bad.

They pretty much shit on the entire Matrix franchise. The Wachowksi’s, both of them, should’ve been exiled, like one of their mythical programs, from the production offices after the first film, and let someone else make all the sequels. I guess they had no really actually good ideas or storyboards after the ones they allegedly stole for the original had run out.

This is like being a kid at Christmas and your parents telling you all you were getting were new socks. But ho hum, at least it’s a present. So on Christmas morning you pick up the soft wrapped package and prepare to open your inevitably disappointing gift, only to find it’s not even a pair of shitty socks. It’s just a loaf your dad pinched the night before. A literal steaming pile of shit.

That’s the build up and pay off for Matrix Resurrections.

Programs that are magnets, robots that are birds, strawberries, the Catrix, Smith isn’t Smith but is Smith but doesn’t look like Smith, “bullet time”, architect to analyst, and coming in the next installment - probably called Matrix Repercussions - I’m expecting Tobias Funke as the Analrapist.

Worse than Hawkeye/10
 
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It looks as though people are either loving it or hating it. Better than the collective 'meh it was fine I guess' response Marvel films tend to get I suppose, nothing wrong with a movie taking big swings and dividing opinion. Looking forward to seeing it.
I sincerely have no idea how anyone, anyone, could love this film.
I think that’s the message I took from it too.
Yeah I know my message was cryptic but that was the gist of it.
 

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I saw the first hour and a half of it so far.. Will finish it tomorrow. It's not good, but I don't see how it's as bad as others in this thread. It's clearly being very meta and asking the question of did the whole first trilogy even matter? Kinda like Star Wars 7. That being said Matrix 2 and 3 were shit so I'm assuming this goes further downhill in the final hour.. I'll be back after finishing it tomorrow.
 

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I saw the first hour and a half of it so far.. Will finish it tomorrow. It's not good, but I don't see how it's as bad as others in this thread. It's clearly being very meta and asking the question of did the whole first trilogy even matter? Kinda like Star Wars 7. That being said Matrix 2 and 3 were shit so I'm assuming this goes further downhill in the final hour.. I'll be back after finishing it tomorrow.
Oh boy... You're in for a hell of a ride
 

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It’s so fecking bad. I hated literally everything about it. It looks like a cheap CW production for a start. Most of the new cast is appalling. It’s lost all of the grimness and grit of the original and changed tone entirely to something almost resembling satire. I thought it would take itself too seriously and be sort of Zak Snyder Justice League bad. Instead it went full Zak Snyder Sucker Punch bad.

They pretty much shit on the entire Matrix franchise. The Wachowksi’s, both of them, should’ve been exiled, like one of their mythical programs, from the production offices after the first film, and let someone else make all the sequels. I guess they had no really actually good ideas or storyboards after the ones they allegedly stole for the original had run out.

This is like being a kid at Christmas and your parents telling you all you were getting were new socks. But ho hum, at least it’s a present. So on Christmas morning you pick up the soft wrapped package and prepare to open your inevitably disappointing gift, only to find it’s not even a pair of shitty socks. It’s just a loaf your dad pinched the night before. A literal steaming pile of shit.

That’s the build up and pay off for Matrix Resurrections.

Programs that are magnets, robots that are birds, strawberries, the Catrix, Smith isn’t Smith but is Smith but doesn’t look like Smith, “bullet time”, architect to analyst, and coming in the next installment - probably called Matrix Repercussions - I’m expecting Tobias Funke as the Analrapist.

Worse than Hawkeye/10
:lol: At least its got one thing going for it then, its exactly like the trailer portrayed. I took some convincing after watching that, that it is actually a real film being made and not some fan made satire.
 

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I saw the first hour and a half of it so far.. Will finish it tomorrow. It's not good, but I don't see how it's as bad as others in this thread. It's clearly being very meta and asking the question of did the whole first trilogy even matter? Kinda like Star Wars 7. That being said Matrix 2 and 3 were shit so I'm assuming this goes further downhill in the final hour.. I'll be back after finishing it tomorrow.
When you finish the movie you will see that it is not asking that question :) This is now a very personal battle for Neo & Trinity.

Personally... Erm... I am not sure where I stand. I kind of liked it.
 

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Shit movie, pandering to nostalgic idiots.

Had the audacity to even joke about it. "Hey guys we know we're using nostalgia and not much else but hahah, isn't it funny and ironic, hahaha hahaha"

The Wachowskis are the definition of "hacks".
 

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Is this worth the £50 to go watch in the cinema? Are the visuals and audio impressive at least? It’s been panned as a story, but does it at least feel like an audio visual treat?

Don’t want to spend on this if it’s truly pants all-round.
 

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Is this worth the £50 to go watch in the cinema? Are the visuals and audio impressive at least? It’s been panned as a story, but does it at least feel like an audio visual treat?

Don’t want to spend on this if it’s truly pants all-round.
Nah not really. It’s polished but it’s nothing like a visual feast.
 

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Watched this yesterday. The first Matrix film is one of the best films ever made and I don’t mind the sequels that much either so was looking forward to this, and while the idea and concepts were interesting I do think the film failed. It was simultaneously too long, and not long enough to cram in all of the concepts and the story it was trying to unload on the viewer. As a result, I found it a little incoherent. The pacing is bad. There are long stretches of the worst kind of tropes the Matrix films are known for: barely coherent, psychobabble jargon about free will, choice, fate, etc. The thing is, I find these concepts and ideas extremely interesting, but they’re written here in such a meandering, verbose kind of way that you’re nodding off halfway through.

The original movie discusses these themes, obviously, but they are fresh. It was something new and exciting. That movie also had an urgency about it and was paced exceptionally well that it never got bogged down in all this jargon for long stretches (unlike the infamous architect scene in Reloaded). The way this film relies on nostalgia is also to its detriment. So many flashbacks to the original movies do it no favours, as all it does is make you want to sit in the cinema and watch the first Matrix film on the cinema screen. All I could keep thinking about was “wow, I wish I was watching that film instead"

I got to say though, the thing that surprised me more than anything in this film was how poor the action was. Considering how groundbreaking and original the first film was (and the sequels to a certain extent) I was shocked at how bad it was here. So many of the action scenes were incredibly stilted, poorly choreographed, and terribly filmed. They were just so unoriginal and mundane. There was a point where I genuinely thought there was a problem with the cinema screen I was watching it on. The camera was so close to the action at points, it never allowed the scene to breathe and for you to actually see what was going on. I was just waiting for it to take off. Like all this other stuff was just a preamble to something truly exciting that, no matter how bad you thought the movie was, it would have “that” scene. But no. Nothing. It had all the bad aspects of the Marvel movies, where you have these incredibly strong beings throwing each other through buildings and walls, getting shot, beating seven shades of shit out of each other with no consequences or any sense of weight to their actions.

There were some nice visuals in the film, though. And it did begin in a way that I thought was going to be interesting. Oh well.

Still, the trailer was an absolute banger.
 

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Nah not really. It’s polished but it’s nothing like a visual feast.
I have to say I'm a bit gutted because I wanted this to be great or at least good. My OH didn't want to go to the cinema to watch it because of Covid worries, understandably, and with these reviews and it not even being a good popcorn movie, I'll probably yield and not go watch it on the big screen now.

Did you feel it gained anything from you watching it in the cinema? I'm conflicted because like something that should be watched on the big screen even if it doesn't live up to expectations.
 

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They completely ignore the Matrix Online Morpheus storyline too. And the MO was supposed to be canonical along with Animatrix and Enter the Matrix.
 

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I have to say I'm a bit gutted because I wanted this to be great or at least good. My OH didn't want to go to the cinema to watch it because of Covid worries, understandably, and with these reviews and it not even being a good popcorn movie, I'll probably yield and not go watch it on the big screen now.

Did you feel it gained anything from you watching it in the cinema? I'm conflicted because like something that should be watched on the big screen even if it doesn't live up to expectations.
Honestly, nothing. Wish I watched it on my TV to be honest.

Also, I dragged my partner along and she’s not really into sci-fi and I spent the entire film with a sort of embarrassed anxiety that she was judging me at how bad it all was and we’ve been together for nearly 13 years, been travelling together and stayed in a hostel where we had to poo in a toilet right next door to our bed with only a curtain separating us so we are pretty comfortable with each other.
 

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Don't think it was a "shitshow" like some are suggesting, it was nothing like the 3rd movie (which was a shitshow). Personally thought it was alright.

Hugo Weaving not playing Agent Smith didn't feel right however.

Get the feeling there may be another one after this.
 

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Honestly, nothing. Wish I watched it on my TV to be honest.

Also, I dragged my partner along and she’s not really into sci-fi and I spent the entire film with a sort of embarrassed anxiety that she was judging me at how bad it all was and we’ve been together for nearly 13 years, been travelling together and stayed in a hostel where we had to poo in a toilet right next door to our bed with only a curtain separating us so we are pretty comfortable with each other.
:lol:

Bolded makes me sad. But it costs a small fortune to go IMAX and if it's not up to the job, I'm going to leave it and save myself some cash as well as potential exposure to Covid.

Hey, these things are an exchange; my OH has me watch some painful rom-com and has taken to Christmas movies of her choice this year to top it off, so the odd sci-fi she has to endure is fair trade!
 

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I kinda liked what they were doing at the start, with the extremely meta stuff (at least from the standpoint of, well, it’s different) but it went downhill very fast and by the end I couldn’t even tell you what they were aiming for, it was just a squirrelly mess. So much of it just didn’t work. And also it kinda looked bad?

I love Yaya Abdul Matteen but his Morpheus was just fecking weird and completely off book and I can’t even work out what purpose he served… if he even did? Plus he looked really crap when he turned into ball bearings for some reason.

The new Smith was palpably shit and only in it when they needed some contrived convenience and a call back to the original (when they weren’t just cutting to the original, or playing it in the background - which they were doing a lot, often all at the same time) Also Morpheus was supposed to be half Smith anyway? So there’s two Smiths in this, and neither of them do much of anything.

The bit where the Lost Boys from Hook turned up and tried to rush them in a burnt out shed was hilarious…. Though easily beaten out in the laugh out loud stakes by the dive bombing kamikaze bots. Epic naffness.

Wait, was that… Christina Ricci? Who cares, doesn’t matter.

It took me ages to work out that was Jada Pinkett-Smith cos she’s obviously had so much weird work that by the time they put old age make up on top of that, she was entirely unrecognisable, to the point it would’ve been better to cast an actual old woman, or at least someone who could act and wasn’t going to put on a distractingly bad “old woman voice/walk” the whole time.

Wait… who is that other women in old age make up with Jada Pinkett Smith? Is it someone we know? It must be as theyve aged her up right? I mean I…. Oh, never mind. Doesn’t matter.

Why did the “real” Keanu that everyone else saw not look like a real person? Was he in prosthetics? Was he CGI’d? It looked like a child FaceApp’d to look old.

NPH’s Analyst was a fecking idiot… You want to convince Trinity that she’s not actually Trinity and not living in a simulation? Better pack this local coffee shop with hundreds of agents then, that won’t look suss…. Oh, and remember to keep taking tonnes of these really shiny blue pills. You know, like the ones in the Matrix.

So, the film was actually a video game? Are games photorealistic in this Matrix? Were they all Cutscenes? Which bit was the actual game?

What were the new crew actually trying to do? Rescue Neo, sure, but then what? They didn’t even seem to know about Trinity, or that she would magically solve everything (I guess?) so, what was the plan.

It just kinda ended didn’t it?

That cover of RAM was like if Tarantino made a sequel to Pulp Fiction and put the Black Eyed Peas over the credits.
 
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I thought it was alright. 6.5/10.

Too many cutbacks to the old movies. But good action.

Storyline, was a little weak, but enough.
 

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Just about to see it. Hoping it's better than the previous two. First was great though.
 

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I kinda liked what they were doing at the start, with the extremely meta stuff (at least from the standpoint of, well, it’s different) but it went downhill very fast and by the end I couldn’t even tell you what they were aiming for, it was just a squirrelly mess. So much of it just didn’t work. And also it kinda looked bad?

I love Yaya Abdul Matteen but his Morpheus was just fecking weird and completely off book and I can’t even work out what purpose he served… if he even did? Plus he looked really crap when he turned into ball bearings for some reason.

The new Smith was palpably shit and only in it when they needed some contrived convenience and a call back to the original (when they weren’t just cutting to the original, or playing it in the background - which they were doing a lot, often all at the same time) Also Morpheus was supposed to be half Smith anyway? So there’s two Smiths in this, and neither of them do much of anything.

The bit where the Lost Boys from Hook turned up and tried to rush them in a burnt out shed was hilarious…. Though easily beaten out in the laugh out loud stakes by the dive bombing kamikaze bots. Epic naffness.

Wait, was that… Christina Ricci? Who cares, doesn’t matter.

It took me ages to work out that was Jada Pinkett-Smith cos she’s obviously had so much weird work that by the time they put old age make up on top of that, she was entirely unrecognisable, to the point it would’ve been better to cast an actual old woman, or at least someone who could act and wasn’t going to put on a distractingly bad “old woman voice/walk” the whole time.

Wait… who is that other women in old age make up with Jada Pinkett Smith? Is it someone we know? It must be as theyve aged her up right? I mean I…. Oh, never mind. Doesn’t matter.

Why did the “real” Keanu that everyone else saw not look like a real person? Was he in prosthetics? Was he CGI’d? It looked like a child FaceApp’d to look old.

NPH’s Analyst was a fecking idiot… You want to convince Trinity that she’s not actually Trinity and not living in a simulation? Better pack this local coffee shop with hundreds of agents then, that won’t look suss…. Oh, and remember to keep taking tonnes of these really shiny blue pills. You know, like the ones in the Matrix.

So, the film was actually a video game? Are games photorealistic in this Matrix? Were they all Cutscenes? Which bit was the actual game?

What were the new crew actually trying to do? Rescue Neo, sure, but then what? They didn’t even seem to know about Trinity, or that she would magically solve everything (I guess?) so, what was the plan.

It just kinda ended didn’t it?

That cover of RAM was like if Tarantino made a sequel to Pulp Fiction and put the Black Eyed Peas over the credits.
Good review. Wanted to like that more than I did. I feel like they've fecked up a chance for more sequels with this ..