Is Rashford better than the likes of Saint Maximin?

[pocco]

If you think so, why?

Because we come up against these types of player, even from lower placed teams, who show things that I don't remember seeing from Rashford in a long time.

Some might say ASM and others like him (Bowden, Neto, Traore etc) are 1 in 5 players, but if that's their '1' then where is Rashford's game where he is just a one-man wrecking machine for the opposition?

What other players fall into this category that you think may actually be better than Rashford?

 

[OL29]

Not in his current form obviously but in fairness I don’t think this is Rashford’s true level.

 

[Pickle85]

Not in his current form obviously but in fairness I don’t think this Rashford’s true level.

This

 

[Samid]

Hard work beats talent if talent doesn’t work hard.

 

[mewnew11]

Rash and lingard have a level of their own.

I can't believe people say he is good on the left when we have had legends like Giggs play there.

Rash is not a winger or a striker. He is another one of this I can do a bit of everything but good at nothing footballers who constantly fail. I would seriously take maximan ahead of rash

 

[Jacob]

I've been saying it for years, Rashford is a good athlete but that's it. No way in hell he would start for any other club with title aspirations. Greenwood is a far superior player.

 

[Bwuk]

Rashfords been off the boil for a long time.

I think the back injury finished him as a top top player. He’s never consistently looked the same since.

 

[Kush]

He looked on the cusp of becoming a top left side attacker before his back injury. He's never looked the same since to me.

I honestly don't know what can sort him out because his game and decision making hasn't evolved at all.

 

[Leftback99]

No. He's just another one of our many overrated players. He's getting worse too.

 

[TwoSheds]

Possibly. Saint-Maximin is class though, it's not a particular slight in my book. I love watching him play.

 

[RoyH1]

Yes, when he’s at his best. Which he really is not at the moment

 

[LilyWhiteSpur]

Possibly. Saint-Maximin is class though, it's not a particular slight in my book. I love watching him play.

I think if he was in your own team he would be incredibly infuriating, moments of brilliance surrounded by headless chicken, flatters to deceive far, far too often. His chance today should have been finished, and that has been his problem for a long time.

 

[TwoSheds]

I think if he was in your own team he would be incredibly infuriating, moments of brilliance surrounded by headless chicken, flatters to deceive far, far too often. His chance today should have been finished, and that has been his problem for a long time.

Oh for sure, but he's also utterly unplayable at times and works very hard too. Completely mental sort of player and definitely frustrating but he'd be an asset to most sides really. Would love to watch him, Traoré and Lamptey in the same team

 

[OhGee]

Problem with most forumites is that they see an opposition player play a few good games and then start to make odd comparisons. Yes, St Maximin had a good game today but I’ve seen him have loads of frustratingly average games as well. United players are always on the spotlight so deep scrutiny comes with that package. Yes, Rashford is off form of recent, but on form he is one of the worlds best.

 

[Skills]

Rashfords been off the boil for a long time.

I think the back injury finished him as a top top player. He’s never consistently looked the same since.

I feel the same way.

 

[R'hllor]

Comparing our players with others is waste of time, if you want real comparison, bring them first in Manchster United triangle where talent disapears, give them few months and then compare.

 

[TMDaines]

Feels as if someone may have not watched much ASM and Newcastle in recent years.

 

[croadyman]

Not on recent showings that's for sure

 

[pocco]

Problem with most forumites is that they see an opposition player play a few good games and then start to make odd comparisons. Yes, St Maximin had a good game today but I’ve seen him have loads of frustratingly average games as well. United players are always on the spotlight so deep scrutiny comes with that package. Yes, Rashford is off form of recent, but on form he is one of the worlds best.

I don't see Rashford as one of the world's best at all. I'm fact I think your summary of ASM fits Rashford too. Put ASM into a better team and I reckon the numbers would improve too. Does that make him good enough? I don't know, but that's been the argument for Rashford for years in spite of the performances that have been largely average.

 

[AbusementPark]

I cheered when Saint Maximim went off, I’m sure the whole United defence done the same as well. What a game he had, terrorised the team, even before half time when he was doing all the tricks and Joelinton came over and megged Rashford, they’ll be having nightmares for weeks after that.

 

[Idxomer]

Based on this year, no.

 

[Eddy_JukeZ]

Hasn't been the same since the back injury.

Was one of the best attackers in the league before that.

 

[sparx99]

It’s just decision making with Rashford. Unfortunately, that’s the most important to part of football.

 

[Cascarino]

ASM is very talented, is an incredible dribbler. It's not easy playing in a side like this Newcastle one.
I don't think he's capable of Rashford's goalscoring feats though, they're very different players with different strengths. Hopefully Rashford can get back to his best.

 

[Dazzmondo]

ASM has never had end product anywhere close to that of Rashford at his best. Rashford has scored more than 20 goals in each of his last 2 seasons. ASM has never come close to this. They're both among the best dribblers in Europe. Rashford is in really bad form atm but even this season ASM only has 1 more goal than Rashford in far more mins. Hopefully Rashford can get back to his best soon. Frankly all of our attackers have been pretty rubbish lately, not just Rashford and they were certainly all rubbish today.

 

[eire-red]

Come on man, let's look at this objectively and not in the light of tonight's game. Rashford is going through a real tough moment. However, Rashford is approaching 100 goals for United, in the past has delivered in high pressure moments, and I don't know what you mean by Saint Maximin showing things that you haven't seen from Rashford?

Worth noting Saint Maximin is older than Rashford, and I've never seen him be a true match winner. Flicks and tricks get the crowd going, but Rashford has won plenty of games for us in his time here. Rashford is worth persevering with I think, he'll come back into form.

Just my opinion of course, but you're comparing Raahford at his worst, to Maximin and his very infrequent, unreliable best.

 

[Lewnited]

In 2019 I thought Rash was on course to becoming one of the most dangerous attackers in the league. He had a very good blend of end product, off the ball threat and was a pretty good ball carrier... that Rashford was definitely the better player. Unfortunately he's regressed in pretty much all of those areas since then.

Currently, Rashford would maybe edge out ASM in end product over a season (debatable) but what you'd gain in simply 'unsettling' the opposition defence with ASM would be worth far more for me. Hazard for example didn't reach 20 goals or assists in 2014/15 when Chelsea won the league, but his dribbles, incisive passing and general presence caused absolute chaos for every team in the league. I could see ASM having a similar type of effect on the game in the right setup and squad.

 

[Red Shorts]

Reminds me a lot of Adama Traore: brilliant to watch in the attack buildup, but doesn't have quite the end product. Rashford when he was in top form was more effective for me.

 

[Ali Dia]

ASM would do far more damage than Rashford in a dominant team. If Rashford was playing for Newcastle today they would have lost.

 

[calodo2003]

Hard work beats talent if talent doesn’t work hard.

This.

 

[Withnail]

Rashfords been off the boil for a long time.

I think the back injury finished him as a top top player. He’s never consistently looked the same since.

This is something you would be able to say after a season or two but he's literally only back from the surgery. It's not even been three months.

 

[jesperjaap]

Lets face it, currently there are 5 or 6 you would start in the England side above him and easily as many foreign players in the premiership, couldyou have put that question at any of the first choice wingers in Fergusons era (bar them not being English of course).

I think his initial breakthrough and off the field work has blinded people to his true levels of performance in his time here. I would compare hm to the latter Arsenal years under Wenger, jsut when you think he is dreadful he goes on a decent run and just when you start to believe in him he goes dreaful again...last coupel fo years though have resembled Wengers last two year, he has literallly been dreadful the vast majority of them, forget the goals, you almsot have to go right back to the PSG penalty for his last spell of consistant performances

 

[Wing Attack Plan R]

Not for the past couple of years.

 

[RUCK4444]

ASM will never score 20 in a season. Just saying.

 

[pocco]

ASM will never score 20 in a season. Just saying.

Not at Newcastle (unless they spend big).

Would Rashford score 20 at Newcastle? No chance.

 

[RooneyLegend]

Obviously he's not as good as ASM. ASM puts fear on a whole defence. This sort of fear he has no right to impart given the side he plays for. However he can simply make something out of thin air.

 

[Harry190]

Saint Maximin is better. On song, Saint Maximin is one of the best players in the world.

His body can't handle it however. But he puts everything out there.

 

[Nicolarra90]

Not at Newcastle (unless they spend big).

Would Rashford score 20 at Newcastle? No chance.

Nobody would score 20 at this Newcastle

 

[Teja]

I've been saying it for years, Rashford is a good athlete but that's it. No way in hell he would start for any other club with title aspirations. Greenwood is a far superior player.

Yeah I'm coming round to this view. He could be a very good impact sub but that's it.

He did put up some very good numbers last year though and I think both Ole and Rangnick tried to turn him into a CF that stretches defences but it didn't work.

Sancho, Greenwood, Bruno and ??? should be our long term forward line.

 

[shahzy]

I've never rated him. Thought he was a kick and run merchant even when he was rated on here.

Another I don't rate is Bruno. He plays 5% passes and loses the ball so many times. Just by the law of averages one of those passes come off and he gets seen as amazing. Before it was his penalties papering over the cracks of a poor team player. Now with losing his penalties, he's being exposed for what he is. An erratic Hollywood passer