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We will never know how well they bowled because of the standard they were bowling against.28 overs ago England had all the momentum.
What a bowling performance by Australia.
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And we dropped the bloke in second for a guy averaging 11. Can't believe it didn't work.Fair play to Burns for beating out extras.
There will be a focus on how well Australia bowled, which will be used as an excuse to ensure nothing changes for England. It will be presented as though England could have done nothing to avoid this outcome.28 overs ago England had all the momentum.
What a bowling performance by Australia.
It really won't mate the whole team is being crucified.There will be a focus on how well Australia bowled, which will be used as an excuse to ensure nothing changes for England. It will be presented as though England could have done nothing to avoid this outcome.
We get pumped in Australia routinely every 4 years bar once in the last 40 years?On the bright side, it's nice for a new generation to experience this. The thought of people who started watching England in like 2005 never having had to suffer anything like the nineties did always bother me a bit.
We did at least have the excuse back then that many sides had ridiculously good bowling attacks.On the bright side, it's nice for a new generation to experience this. The thought of people who started watching England in like 2005 never having had to suffer anything like the nineties did always bother me a bit.
It'd be even nice to have started watching anytime from 2014 onwards too... since you seemingly don't acknowledge the crippling losses in 06 and 14.... 14 was fecking putrid.On the bright side, it's nice for a new generation to experience this. The thought of people who started watching England in like 2005 never having had to suffer anything like the nineties did always bother me a bit.
I mean the last three years, more than this series alone.We get pumped in Australia routinely every 4 years bar once in the last 40 years?
All relative. We've posted incredibly low batting totals, so teams haven't had to chase/draw out their innings too much. What's the use in taking wickets at 24.13 if the opposition is chasing 150?England’s average of 24.13 runs per wicket in 2021 is their lowest in a calendar year since 1950.
Obvious answer would be to televise the county games on terrestrial. If you want people to get into it you have to make it more easily available. Once they're into county they'd be much more likely to pay to watch Sky or whatever for Tests so it's got to be a good financial move as well as good for the game. They could also invite schools to bring kids along and that kind of thing if they wanted to get numbers up in the crowds for some days.Test matches are a big (relatively) money maker, and are keeping the red ball game alive. Red ball County cricket is a massive net loss, there's generally like 5 specators in the crowd and minimal television coverage. I hate to say it, but I'm coming around to the idea of replacing the Championship with 6-8 regional sides, with condensed quality and a potentially broadcastable product.
Sorry, that was a batting statistic.All relative. We've posted incredibly low batting totals, so teams haven't had to chase/draw out their innings too much. What's the use in taking wickets at 24.13 if the opposition is chasing 150?
That's what he's said. Those figures are for batting, not bowling.All relative. We've posted incredibly low batting totals, so teams haven't had to chase/draw out their innings too much. What's the use in taking wickets at 24.13 if the opposition is chasing 150?
Most sides have good bowling attacks right now. Even England’s isn’t terrible with a fit Archer until Anderson retires.We did at least have the excuse back then that many sides had ridiculously good bowling attacks.
Our fast bowling is honestly fine, I think. Plenty there.Most sides have good bowling attacks right now. Even England’s isn’t terrible with a fit Archer until Anderson retires.
Ah, apologies my bad. Yeah, we're dreadful.Sorry, that was a batting statistic.
Anderson just proved he’s England’s best bowler and still capable at this level.Surely silverwood will be sacked, i suspect root was planning on resigning his captaincy anyway. And I think broad and Anderson should retire i think there days are done.
The team needs stripping out with only stokes, root and archer (if fit) as gaurentees for the next test series. New captain (stokes probably) and new coach and then after that who knows? Crawley and pope have bags of potential hopefully they both play the last two tests for experience if nothing else. Can't make my mind up about hameed just seems to find ways of getting out neither buttler or bairstow for me should be taking the gloves in test matches. What a mess.
Nah, the next generations in this country don't have the attention spans for it - nor are we good enough anymore to force their attention away from whatever else. It's the same reason Baseball has gone from being America's top sport to well.... miles behind the pace of the growth of NBA/NFL.Obvious answer would be to televise the county games on terrestrial. If you want people to get into it you have to make it more easily available. Once they're into county they'd be much more likely to pay to watch Sky or whatever for Tests so it's got to be a good financial move as well as good for the game. They could also invite schools to bring kids along and that kind of thing if they wanted to get numbers up in the crowds for some days.
I'd sack off quite a few of them and try some other options. 3 or 4 new batsmen in there feels like what we need. Bohannon, Hain, Livingstone, Duckett, whoever it is we have to try something different. These guys can obviously potentially improve with better coaching, captaincy, form etc etc but they're so far off the mark I just don't see how we can justify yet another year of same old same old. They're never going to be part of a top Test team most of them.Harmison spot on. This starts and stops primarily with the batting line-up, and the shocking options on offer. They are honestly fecking shite and, bar Root, are perhaps collectively the worst we've had in the modern test era.
Embarrassing.
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Yet we still go with the same bowlers who can swing in english conditions every time. The batting line-up is awful, and deserves the brunt but the team selection is abysmal and it has been for decades. I know we have some injuries but it doesn't take a genius to look at Broad's figures in Australia and see he won't do any better at 35 while the like of Mahmood are sitting doing nothing.We get pumped in Australia routinely every 4 years bar once in the last 40 years?
The other 267 match (Eng v NZ 1958) is the most brutal, contemptuous scorecard possible.I'll reply to myself..... luckily enough, not quite.
Test Cricket - Innings Wins with Lowest Scores (howstat.com)
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And yet the bowling was improved in this match. You can have all of the star bowlers who want but means feck all if you can’t score runs.Yet we still go with the same bowlers who can swing in english conditions every time. The batting line-up is awful, and deserves the brunt but the team selection is abysmal and it has been for decades. I know we have some injuries but it doesn't take a genius to look at Broad's figures in Australia and see he won't do any better at 35 while the like of Mahmood are sitting doing nothing.
Generally agree with that.Our fast bowling is honestly fine, I think. Plenty there.
God I wish he would before SydneyEmbarrassing. Getting worse with each test. Silverwood can feck off.