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"Up to 11 players now want to leave United after becoming disillusioned with life at the club."
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Ralfs probably more stern and he shouted at the poor dears and made them cry; if this news is true, most of them wont be missed.
Exactly, no other club would pay them their current salaries, and Im pretty sure its the dosh, not glory, which is their main focus.
Fixed it now.
The only 2 players I saw motivated enough to play were Jones and DDG. Guess who has bought them.
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What a motivated bunch.
the reason you choose tough things in life is to be challenged to perform better, and you cannot perform better if you are not challenged.
So if these arseholes run at the first sign of a challenge then they are not what we as fans should be supporting.
Let them go and be mediocre somewhere else
So if these arseholes run at the first sign of a challenge then they are not what we as fans should be supporting.
Let them go and be mediocre somewhere else
Based on him visibly being a massive diva and chewing out his team mates every time something doesn’t go exactly as he envisioned it in his own head. This from a player who fergie even implied didn’t respond well to being bollocked and responded to an arm round the shoulder rather than the stick, he’d do well to remember that there’s more than one way to motivate those around you to be better.
In a team of winners like Madrid and to a lesser extent Juve he’s fine. Not so much with our lot of underperformers who’ve spent most of their United careers getting shat on on social media by the fans.
So all these training ground pics where everybody posing wih smiley faces, is a load of crap then?
Maybe they smile on the training ground, it doesn't mean they're happy. Shaw even said they're not all together in his post-game interview. Not everything is just made up bollocks.
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Speakman is a great name for a social media lead, in fairness.
Jones has mastered levitation while the others mope out onto the field.
Couldn’t agree more
The two camps are pretty obvious I’d say. What I don’t know is are team Ronaldo moaning about Maguire being undroppable or are team Maguire moaning about Ronaldo being undroppable
Really? You're going to go after Ronaldo, the only one at this club (bar maybe DDG and Jones) who know what United used to be, what the standards actually were, under SAF? The only one who's won multiple leagues and champions leagues? The only one who knows what it takes?
Picking Maguire, a four-times relegated, never-won-anything, over-promoted, overrated, running-in-molasses, dithering-on-the-ball oaf over Ronaldo, a genuine United legend who has won things for us? Is this even real life?
As has been posted by numerous people online, I think this time everyone is looking at the players. Every manager has had issues, LVG too structured, Mourinho toxic, Ole no structure.... ok...when the 4th manager who has barely been here starts having issues right away, it's obvious the players are a major issue. I guess we don't know from far but feels like the players have been indulged too much with too much money maybe or other perks. Don't know how that can change.
yes i just despise the transparent PR spin that comes out of the club nowadays. They dont care if the club is a mess as long as public perception is good
Maybe they smile on the training ground, it doesn't mean they're happy. Shaw even said they're not all together in his post-game interview. Not everything is just made up bollocks.
I find it quite funny that the players Mourinho wanted to get rid off 4 years ago are still here causing the same problems. I also find it quite funny that the same players are still being backed by fans over the manager.
What’s the problem for RR to simply stop selecting for matches those players who make problems? If it’s, for example, Maguire, Lingard and Rashford - leave them out of the match day squad and play others
You realise a lot of our players have changed in those 4 years don't you.I find it quite funny that the players Mourinho wanted to get rid off 4 years ago are still here causing the same problems. I also find it quite funny that the same players are still being backed by fans over the manager.
Why those three specifically?
Is there any proof to this "11 players want to leave" story or is it all based on claims from that elusive source close to the club'?
Assume there is something in the story given you're up to 29 pages.
Assume there is something in the story given you're up to 29 pages.
What a circus we have become. Even if none of this is true, and I'd dare say there's some truth to it, what a laughing stock we are. Look at any other big club in the world - is there ever this much turmoil or leaks from the dressing room? We're a shambles. We won't be fixed until someone with authority comes in there and clears the place of the whingers and prima donnas.
Don't think we've reached Arsenal's mocking of Emery's accent levels just yet.... but we're dangerously close.
It’s 17 players now..l
You don't think Roy Keane shouted at his teammates on the pitch? Really? Also Ronaldo didn't respond to stick? Literally his first world class season came after the 2006 world Cup where he was the most hated player in England and was booed at every stadium he went to. Your clutching at straws if you believe Ronaldo is the to crumble when the pressure is on.
Oh, wow.
You can understand why they'd want out, though. Consistently performing like Championship players whilst being among some of the highest-paid footballers on planet earth must be absolutely devastating.
The poor little lambs.
Unbelievable. You have SAF's footballing 'son' Ronaldo, a born and made winner, who's done it multiple times over nearly two decades; who knows what it takes to win, both at Manchester United and elsewhere; who knows what the standards were at this club, and over the years has been known for his professionalism, winning mentality, and uplifting his teammates (see him encouraging Moutinho during the Portugal penalty shootout).
And then you have Rashford, who's done what exactly?
Maguire? Four times relegated, never won anything, and who thinks celebrating a goal against a bunch of goat-herders is shutting up his critics.
And you think Ronaldo is the problem?
Jesus fecking wept!
I mean the guy got to this stage with having a proper attitude (some might not like it, not everyone likes famous people) and work rate. It is a weird stick to beat the guy with.
If anything he might have a right to yell at the others around. After all, if some of them have half of his attitude, they would do well in their careers. I personally don't have a problem with players having unhappy body languages when they are not doing well. Better than smiling and casual clapping around. Then you would have fans calling them 'not care'.
As I said, fans are losing their head seeing everything in negative lights.
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Right?
Rio tells the story of Keane chewing him out for not playing a forward pass in training.
Ronaldo has often spoken of these guys (Keane, Scholes, Neville, Rio, etc.) as making him during his time here. You think they went easy on him? This club had standards once, and Ronaldo knows what those were because he was here and won things here, something not one of Maguire, Rashford, McT or the other lot have done. The guy's mentality is unbelievable, and he's the first you're thinking to get rid of before these soft bluffers we have now?
With fans like these, perhaps it's just karma that we get what we deserve.
EDIT: btw @mancan92 , I'm not addressing you in the latter paragraphs. I'm going after @BuzzKillington.
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We have people saying how Bruno were harsh on other team mates or how Greenwood was afraid to do anything because Ronaldo yelled at him or some shit like that.
If true, Roy Keane would have made them quit playing football for good at under 20.
Yep, the players pretty much say they kicked the diving and antics out of him in training. Ironically he said in a recent interview that young players now are given too much too young.
From the Mirror. Plenty who aren't featuring, but it's news to me if they all want to move and get paid a lot less elsewhere. Great if so. I doubt Dalot wants to leave, I suspect he's desperate to make the grade here. I'd also be surprised if Fred wants to leave.
I'd love for Rangnick or other authority figures at the club to come out and say whoever doesn't want to be here can leave, provided they hand in a transfer request.
Dont need sources to tell us, we already know that Henderson, Martial, Lingard, VdB and Pogba all want to leave as they've all said via their agents one way or another. We know Cavani is definitely planning to leave at the end of the season. Dalot has been trying to leave for a while. Mata is planning on leaving as far as I know. Jones was said to be wanting to leave to find first team football again.
So there's 9 players who definitely want to leave. Then the two more speculative ones are Bailly and probably Ronaldo - based on us not getting CL football next season.
I think this is just the papers taking half a story and turning it into fiction.
Pogba, Lingard, Mata, Cavani, Tuanzabe, Chong, Martial, Grant are 8 names straight off the bat who wont be here in 6 months time, mainly for contract reasons and in the case of Axel and Martial are obviously surplus to requirements.
then there are a few more like Jones, Bailly, Dalot that probably could be moved on because they just arent up to it.
we are heading for a high turnover of players imminently.
the whole thing about people being unhappy and wanting to leave is just more media negativity over us
Pogba, Lingard, Mata, Cavani, Tuanzabe, Chong, Martial, Grant are 8 names straight off the bat who wont be here in 6 months time, mainly for contract reasons and in the case of Axel and Martial are obviously surplus to requirements.
then there are a few more like Jones, Bailly, Dalot that probably could be moved on because they just arent up to it.
we are heading for a high turnover of players imminently.
the whole thing about people being unhappy and wanting to leave is just more media negativity over us
At least we know that only up to 11 players want to leave.
The rest wants to stay or is neutral.
The rest wants to stay or is neutral.
As I said in another thread if 11 want to leave let them because based on performances this season only DeGea and maybe Fred have performed well. Nobody on the pitch bar DDG is showing enough to say we would miss them
Another day.
Nobody in.
Nobody out.
We did know the that the transfer window was coming ? Right ?
Nobody in.
Nobody out.
We did know the that the transfer window was coming ? Right ?
VDB as well. Henderson maybe too.