The absolute meltdown if Pogba signed a 5 year contract today on £500kpw! £130m!
I think we’d have another mutiny on Monday.
I think we’d have another mutiny on Monday.
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If there is any truth to this whatsoever, considering what Rangnick said on the matter, it’s a clear over ruling of the managers position and considering the media coverage of the managers untenable position due to the short term nature of his tenure, this would tender a seemingly lame duck completely and utterly powerless in the eyes of the squad.
I hope this is the media turning the screw for headlines as opposed to there being any truth in it from the clubs perspective.
I hope this is the media turning the screw for headlines as opposed to there being any truth in it from the clubs perspective.
I seriously hope this is not true. They need to get him out the door this month. I cannot believe they would be stupid enough to try and "save" some of the transfer money paid by giving the lazy player more money.
Get him and his manager out now.
Get him and his manager out now.
This has Woodward all over it if true. A last act to feck up the club before he goes. If it does happen it shows they learn nothing. Absolute joke (if true)
Woody's final parting gift: double Pogba's salary 
would be hilarious if it happens
would be hilarious if it happensThis can't be true. Let him get an offer and then we'll see if it's a good idea to match those wages. I can't see him getting that much anywhere.
See this is the default response. Without delving into why there is inconsistency here but not elsewhere with the same player.
By doing that we fail to acknowledge and address our failings at squad building. There is a basic fundamental to getting the best from our best player but instead of doing so (and we’re desperate for a DM anyway) we’d rather lose him for free again and in doing so instead of building a world class team we will make the same mistakes of building an unbalanced side except with lesser players. That’s my concern.
It would help if we had the permanent manager in already, we would know what he wants. This is partly why this one is dragging out so long.
I am starting to think that maybe we are looking at Pogba in the wrong light. The media do seem to like having a go at him and also seem to love writing sensational and usually BS stories about Utd. Its possible that maybe Pogba is one of the 'good guys' in the dressing room. Rangnick should have had (just about) enough time to decide if Pogba has the correct attitude and i would hope he has had an influence on the board in making a decision to Pogba. Results and especially performances have not exactly been stellar without him. I am no Pogba fanboy and have tended to have view him cynically over the last few years back to the Mourinho days, but i would hope that there is enough in the club to make the correct decision on this by now instead of believing all the quite frankly claickbait fake news we are getting fed from dodgy sources.
Of course I could be completely wrong on this and this is just some sort of Woodward solo run to bring publicity on himself as he goes out the door.
Of course I could be completely wrong on this and this is just some sort of Woodward solo run to bring publicity on himself as he goes out the door.
I rate Pogba too but unfortunately, it hasn't worked out, alot of players in this squad haven't worked out.
I have said this from a long time, they all think they are better than they are. Post lockdown after 4 wins, they were overconfident, almost looking as if they can walk onto the pitch and beat anyone then complacency kicked in.
Last season when we were top, same thing, after 4/5 good wins they just think they are the champions. They have won nothing and they act as if they are the best team.
Luke Shaw coming out talking about motivation, I mean you're playing for Manutd, 7th in the league, what more motivation do you need?
No no no no no no no no please no.
Just let him go. We are just stupid at this point. Should have been sold years ago.
If this is true we should just go and burn Old Trafford down to end this madness.
This would be the straw that broke the camels back for me. Just when you think we can't go any lower, can't make any stupid decisions because of the current heat and scrutiny on the club...I refuse to believe this. What the fecking feck are the club thinking if this is true!?
Those 11 players leaving has freed up a war chest for Paul and Mino 
Everyone interested in a sober assessment of value needs to understand that a footballer's value to the club does not equal their sporting performance.
Football stars are brands with their economical power that is of great importance for clubs. Manchester United has been a brand-driven business for decades. We signed a Chinese player (Dong Fangzhuo) to extend our commercial reach to the Chinese market. We've done similar stunts several times. One might argue that Park and Chicharito were similar transfers that just worked out very well on the sporting side too.
As a result a player's compensation is not purely based on their sporting performance but on their overall value and commercial benefits they bring to the club.
Whether Pogba is playing and contributing to the sporting results well enough to deserve wages higher than most other footballers we have is not really the question.
I really wish people stopped thinking in such narrow frames.
I do see where you're coming from. However, I think giving Pogba that type of money will do more harm than good. Especially when he's been as inconsistent as he has now in terms of his performances.
I can't imagine most of the squad would be happy knowing Pogba's on 500k and would expect the majority of the remaining players to want a pay rise. Giving Pogba 500k, especially at this time when our team morale isn't the best would just end in tears. Regardless of Pogba's commercial value.
Why don’t we just sign Ed Sheeran for up front then?
Then we may as well just shove him on a few reality shows to raise our profile even further because he doesn't do enough on the football pitch. If it isn't down to football we are fecked.
Definitely, it's just a decision devoid of logic. Good player but we'd be insane to give him that sort of salary.
It really wouldn't surprise. This club look at players as commercial assets and Pogba has the biggest profile in the club outside of Ronaldo. Our board tends to be even more reactionary than our fanbase too so they may look at Pogba not being there for the current calamity and then overrated what he will bring.
If it were to happen though I'd need a break from the sport. We've rewarded inconsistent form (Rashford, Martial, Shaw) and outright bad form (De Gea) with contracts that should be reserved for best in the world at their respective positions. That's bad enough but Pogba, as well as being inconsistent has been a problem child under several managers and undermined the club more than once. It should be among the highest priorities to get him out the door.
I'm sorry but I do not care about the business side. I am a Manchester United fan not Stakeholder.
I want to see performances on the pitch on the footballing side.
You talk about narrow frames, can you tell me how much income Pogba generates for us?
Also, please go check how much we bought those players for and the wages we paid those players.
I am not interested in the money making, I am a football fan concerned about winning football games and trophies.
How stupid do you think our fans are?
It's not that people don't understand the commercial side of it - it's not exactly rocket science - but fans should absolutely push back against the club putting commercial value over sporting value.
United viewing players as nothing but assets has lead to us having the highest wage bill in the league while performing like the 7th best team in the league. Their business model has been a resounding failure on all fronts.
Seriously, if he signs a new bumper contract we might as well just make him manager.
lads, chill, Paul isn't getting a 500k a week for 5 years.
the final offer is up to 400k a week for 3 years (plus 1 yr option), its close to what DDG is getting (375K a week).
and it seems Pogba might chose to run down his contract, so there is a high chance he leaves in the summer.
the final offer is up to 400k a week for 3 years (plus 1 yr option), its close to what DDG is getting (375K a week).
and it seems Pogba might chose to run down his contract, so there is a high chance he leaves in the summer.
As long as it's a base of £100k a week, then an extra £100k if he stops talking about leaving and spending all winter in Dubai, and the rest can be performance and trophy based.
who knows, but so far it seems he will not extend which I do not mind.
We can debate how well Pogba has played over the last 5 years and whether his performances have been judged fairly,, but what isnt in doubt is his lack of commitment to the club - he has made it crystal clear he has wanted out on numerous ocassions going back to when he tried to engineer a move to City (and his agent speaks on his behalf with his blessing before anyone pretends otherwise) - once covid hit he settled for leaving on a free,
If he signs that means no other big club wants him even on a free. I still think he will end up at Juve. He has had the talent to have done do much more here but was only interested if we were winning and competing at the very top
If he signs that means no other big club wants him even on a free. I still think he will end up at Juve. He has had the talent to have done do much more here but was only interested if we were winning and competing at the very top
Well that’s the best outcome, he can go and play in Dubai or Qatar for that kind of money, or take a pay cut and go back to Italy.
We could do with PSG bailing us out of the shit here.
Anything that he'd realistically accept is too much at this point. It's time to move on. He's too difficult to appease on and off the pitch. The club has to have some standards and some self respect. He's done nothing but agitate for four years and if we reward that the club is lost. He's had his chances to put it together here and for whatever reason it never works out.
This new contract story is just made up by some nobody Sun journalist.
Leave about the commercial side and whether he’s worth of it, our next big contract must be for a CDM & holding midfielder.
We seriously need to rebuild our midfield and add another world class player at RB position and then the club can decide on other things like pogba situation. In essence, pogba’s contract is the least important thing for the club atm.
We seriously need to rebuild our midfield and add another world class player at RB position and then the club can decide on other things like pogba situation. In essence, pogba’s contract is the least important thing for the club atm.
Hopefully the offer is pulled and he is informed that he is free to leave now or in the summer. Arnold is taking over from Woodward and maybe he will do something else with regards to Pogba.
Normally, i say we have no chance of him signing a new deal. However his options are limited due to the money he wants (last big deal of his career). Madrid his apparent 1st choice, are all in for Mbappe and Haaland so Pogba will have to wait till those deals are resolved one way or another. They may not have the money to gove him the deal he wants if they land both Mbappe and Haaland. Juventus can't afford to pay him the wages he wants. PSG is his only other option then. However does he want to spend his prime years in France?
If Utd want him to re-sign they are going to have to annouce the permanent manager sooner rather than later. What player would re-sign or even sign for the club not knowing who the manager will be? Example, if Utd were to get Poch and Zidane went to PSG, would that influence Pogba to go to play at PSG? Maybe.
Personally I'd rather he went. Time for both parties to move on.
If Utd want him to re-sign they are going to have to annouce the permanent manager sooner rather than later. What player would re-sign or even sign for the club not knowing who the manager will be? Example, if Utd were to get Poch and Zidane went to PSG, would that influence Pogba to go to play at PSG? Maybe.
Personally I'd rather he went. Time for both parties to move on.
500k a week, 0 league titles
More banter than Slippy G
More banter than Slippy G
We've made some pretty daft decisions in the last eight years, but no club the the world, including United, would be stupid enough to offer a player with Pogba's injury record and general level of performance, half a million quid a week.
It sounds like Raiola is fishing for offers because, despite four years of hawking him all around Europe, he still can't find a club with any interest in Pogba.
It sounds like Raiola is fishing for offers because, despite four years of hawking him all around Europe, he still can't find a club with any interest in Pogba.
I've not seen one link to this so called offer. Anyone reputable reporting this?
Would happy for the circus to end. Not even sure it’s Pogba’s fault too much cause the club are stupid enough to take the bait each time. A side note on his agent though-it is made out that he is absolutely essential to have on board but how many well run clubs have one of his star players on their books? And there aren’t that many stars under his management. Dealing with him is clearly just a massive distraction
That's not true. Real, Juventus and PSG have always wanted him. They can't afford the transfer fee (mostly because of FFP) but the wages won't be a problem for any of them.
He is most certainly going to make more than the 290/week he is on now if he goes to Juventus, they have an agreement with Adidas to cover almost half of his wages. And they are about to get rid of Ramsey's ridiculous contract. Plus they adore him over there.
But given the decline of Juventus, fighting for top 4 at best, I don't think Pogba is as interested in that move as he was 2 years ago.
The only thing separating them would be the wages. As neither have won the league.
If the reports are anywhere close to true it shows there are still massive problems with the football operations at the club.
I don't even dislike Pogba but signing him up to a massive new deal is just asking for trouble and smacks of desperation.
I don't even dislike Pogba but signing him up to a massive new deal is just asking for trouble and smacks of desperation.