United, football, mental health, and yet another United thread...

[Red Rash]

Agreed that his body language just doesn't look right and maybe there are some mental issues or lack of confidence.

However as fans we can only really say what we see and he is playing really badly at the moment. I really think Rangnick needs to do him a favour and take him out of the firing line.

Regardless of what his problems are, we need to do what is best for Man Utd and put players in who are showing the right effort and playing well. If Rashford does have problems the best way to support him is off the pitch

 

[KingCavani]

Most people with mental health issues can’t just exit the spotlight like these guys can choose to do at any point. It’s honestly almost an insulting comparison.

It comes with the territory with Manchester United. If you don’t play well you’ll be scrutinised more than at any other club in the world, especially if it appears you’re using the support to push your own brand. There’s a reason no one bother Cleverley or Fellaini any more, they left the bubble.

If it’s too much for them they have that option most people with mental health issues don’t have. They can go play a child’s game for a few less tens of thousands of pounds per week and remove that extreme level of exposure.

 

[MrBest]

I've said this for years about Rashford, super talented player, should be in his prime right now but Man United have managed him so badly. From the moment he broke into the team, he has had the weight of 300 million fans, the board and the other players on his shoulders. A boy with that talent should have been nurtured, he was thrown in when he was just 18 years old. What were most of us doing at 18? I was drinking and eating lots at Uni. You could argue then likes of Grealish and Rice have managed it, but when you are challenging for honours, the pressure is incredible. I admire how Pep has managed Foden, that is how Fergie managed Ronaldo. Keep him out of the firing line. Even Greenwood has been cut slack, he's been blocked from the England squad. I feel for Rashford so much, he needs a break from football and the limelight for a bit. I get the frustration from fans too, watching Marcus not chase two lose balls is horrifying, especially when we know what he is capable. But as the poster wrote, he is still human and not a robot. The best thing RR can do now is drop him from the first 11 or the squad entirely. Let him fully recover from that back injury, which i think is also psychologically playing on his mind. It's clear he is not at the level he can be at but again it's so easy to say that about him because of the weight we put on him in the last 6 years.

If i was him or one of his advisors, i would steer clear of the light for a month or two and get his head sorted out with some therapy and time for reflection. What he has done for this country is miraculous, he earned his MBE but now it's time to put himself first again and show that on the pitch.

 

[Ali Dia]

If he’s sick he needs to be dropped and given whatever help he needs. He’s needed to be dropped for years. Of course you’re also probably going to depressed when you’re playing like this? It’s a vicious circle. We’ve turned him into this horrible player we have to endure by overpaying, over marketing and under managing him. This is Lingard part 2 and while I do sympathise these lads have every opportunity to get the very best help in the world. He could retire tomorrow and his family are set for generations This is a football club and we need the strongest fittest most aggressive and skilful players in the world. Not this. Not playing him every week until he sorts it out either. If you can’t hack it move aside. At any club with solid leadership he would have been managed a hell of lot better.

 

[miked99]

One thing that never seems to be mentioned is the possible impact of the missed penalty in the Euros final.

That would weigh heavily on anyone's mind, but normally he would at least get to start the next season fairly soon after and get on with it. Instead he went a long while without playing and had a lot of time to stew on it. Probably makes it even worse considering how high profile he is with the public. It's not hard to imagine how it could really lead to a negative spiral.

 

[Champ]

Agree with every fecking word.

 

[King7Eric]

I said it another thread and I'll say it again, but post Ole's sacking half of our squad just seems broken. We were playing terribly in the final few weeks up to his sacking but you could see the players were trying. But in the last few games, starting from Norwich, the players just seem totally disheartened and miserable. It's not about results or tactical/technical performances, the body language of so many out there, even their reactions at the end of the games despite winning, just seem those of people going through the motions.

 

[alexthelion]

This is a public service announcement to some users who can't do anything other than make glib posts about how this and that are "useless" or "lazy". I noticed it a lot tonight regarding Rashford, as many people let out their frustrations. There's a lot of decent comments on this forum but to be honest after reading some of the things in the match thread ("he's a brainless idiot", "he's a diva" etc) I'm not surprised Rashford's head isn't in the right place.

He's suddenly gone from being the golden boy at United, lauded for his off field activities, into the center for a whole list of insults (not to mention the disgusting shite he had to put up with after the Euros).

Do you know what's wrong with him? He's probably mentally fecked or depressed. We actually NEED players like him at the club - United lads who actually have some interest putting our jersey on. Is he monumentally shite at the moment? Without a doubt. He needs hauled off and actually coached through his problems. But the same applies to most of the team.

And before anyone comes in and says "well, he should just toughen up. He's paid loads". Feck. You. It's easy to say when your every waking action isn't dissected, and you're in front of 70,000+ playing like shite for a team that have zero fire. A stiff upper lip only goes so far. If I see one more lazy comment that doesn't actually say anything else other than "he's downed tools" or "has no respect for the badge" I'll unshackle Damo and give his primary weapons systems an extra 2 amps to play with. Anyone who has worked or lived in an environment where everything seems to always go wrong knows that you don't just snap out of that attitude overnight, especially when things continue to go wrong.

The players are mentally weak, but they've been shite for ages. Of course they're mentally weak. Even Sir Alex, the master of the hairdryer treatment, knew when to put an arm around his players. His teams weren't just technically sound - they had drive and determination and ran through walls until the last minute. And if you want players that are emotional like that, it swings both ways. Treat them like shit when they're at their weakest and they'll just crumble.

I know it's frustrating. It's been frustrating for years! And the players are shite. But don't mistake it for not giving a shit - they're just clueless, and need a kick up the arse but not ones that resort to hurling insults.

Why does any of this matter? Analysis of why we're playing poorly is important, and it's the core of this forum. But the childish moaning doesn't do anything other than fuel further moaning. And eventually that feeds into the larger media narrative as a whole, and the atmosphere in the stadium.

Anyway, feel free to call me a cnut. Oates does it twice a day.

Sorry, but it reads like a bunch of excuses.

 

[Mr Pigeon]

Most people with mental health issues can’t just exit the spotlight like these guys can choose to do at any point. It’s honestly almost an insulting comparison.

It comes with the territory with Manchester United. If you don’t play well you’ll be scrutinised more than at any other club in the world, especially if it appears you’re using the support to push your own brand. There’s a reason no one bother Cleverley or Fellaini any more, they left the bubble.

If it’s too much for them they have that option most people with mental health issues don’t have. They can go play a child’s game for a few less tens of thousands of pounds per week and remove that extreme level of exposure.

Respectfully, I disagree. None of us would have to deal with the spotlight these players are under.

Here's a comparison; my old workplace was the "boring business" equivalent of United. Used to be great and suddenly the CEO left (well, he was caught fiddling the finances but you know....he was still gone). Suddenly, with no real direction, everything went to shit. Badly. And it was shit for years, because someone new would turn up and start changing things, and then they would go only to be placed with someone else who changed things. Eventually people went from being prideful and motivated into shells who were finding their old colleagues being replaced with others who, once the honeymoon period was over, turning into the same.

I had people on my team who came in to the office like they had just found out their entire family had died. They hated coming in. But what else could they do? They wanted purpose at work, and they hoped it would get better eventually even though there was no real glimmer of hope anywhere.

Those team members were able to get sick lines really quickly and the company HR didn't dare try and complain about it otherwise I'd chase then around the building with a fecking shoe. If they needed support they go it, and then they could come back. Some didn't. Our team lost one person over the years, which was seen as a success compared to other areas where entire swathes of people retired early or even chose unemployment over what the place had become under their management.

If Rashford just leaves tomorrow where does he go? Does he retire, when all he's probably wanted since he was a kid was the play football? Maybe he doesn't want to leave his boyhood club? Maybe he, like most of our team, hope it gets better. Maybe someone up top needs to make changes. I hope Rangnick is the person who is doing that, maybe we'll see in the near future. We desperately need leaders. I know I'm making a lot of guesses here but I guess everyone is...

I've said this for years about Rashford, super talented player, should be in his prime right now but Man United have managed him so badly. From the moment he broke into the team, he has had the weight of 300 million fans, the board and the other players on his shoulders. A boy with that talent should have been nurtured, he was thrown in when he was just 18 years old. What were most of us doing at 18? I was drinking and eating lots at Uni. You could argue then likes of Grealish and Rice have managed it, but when you are challenging for honours, the pressure is incredible. I admire how Pep has managed Foden, that is how Fergie managed Ronaldo. Keep him out of the firing line. Even Greenwood has been cut slack, he's been blocked from the England squad. I feel for Rashford so much, he needs a break from football and the limelight for a bit. I get the frustration from fans too, watching Marcus not chase two lose balls is horrifying, especially when we know what he is capable. But as the poster wrote, he is still human and not a robot. The best thing RR can do now is drop him from the first 11 or the squad entirely. Let him fully recover from that back injury, which i think is also psychologically playing on his mind. It's clear he is not at the level he can be at but again it's so easy to say that about him because of the weight we put on him in the last 6 years.

If i was him or one of his advisors, i would steer clear of the light for a month or two and get his head sorted out with some therapy and time for reflection. What he has done for this country is miraculous, he earned his MBE but now it's time to put himself first again and show that on the pitch.

Said it better than myself in half of the time!

 

[Champ]

If he’s sick he needs to be dropped and given whatever help he needs. He’s needed to be dropped for years. Of course you’re also probably going to depressed when you’re playing like this? It’s a vicious circle. We’ve turned him into this horrible player we have to endure by overpaying, over marketing and under managing him. This is Lingard part 2 and while I do sympathise these lads have every opportunity to get the very best help in the world. He could retire tomorrow and his family are set for generations This is a football club and we need the strongest fittest most aggressive and skilful players in the world. Not this. Not playing him every week until he sorts it out either. If you can’t hack it move aside. At any club with solid leadership he would have been managed a hell of lot better.

And how do you think the fans would react if Rashford put out a statement saying he doesn't want to play?
He's damned of he does, damned of he doesn't.

They are human beings for feck sake, not robots. They are also prone to human emotions.
Look at Gary Speed, Aaron Lennon, Clarke Carlisle and countless others. Also the reports recently the FIFPRO survey on depression showed that double the number of professional footballers were experiencing depression than before the pandemic started.
They are fecking humans and Rashford needs a rest and help, and not people telling him he needs to be moved on because he's weak.

 

[Ali Dia]

And how do you think the fans would react if Rashford put out a statement saying he doesn't want to play?
He's damned of he does, damned of he doesn't.

They are human beings for feck sake, not robots. They are also prone to human emotions.
Look at Gary Speed, Aaron Lennon, Clarke Carlisle and countless others. Also the reports recently the FIFPRO survey on depression showed that double the number of professional footballers were experiencing depression than before the pandemic started.
They are fecking humans and Rashford needs a rest and help, and not people telling him he needs to be moved on because he's weak.

I said step aside because it’s not good enough for United. It’s far from good enough for United to have one of your flagship players walking around like that.

Rashford is a master at “putting his hands up” I feel like if there was actually something really wrong with him besides falling out of love with the game or becoming disillusioned with life at Utd (who wouldn’t be disillusioned with these owners?) He’d actually say it. He’s brave enough to do it. In the meantime, his football is absolutely terrible and that’s what he’s getting paid a lifetimes worth of money every week to do. That’s what I’m most interested in and why I post on these boards. I don’t care about the players personal lives and never have. I’m not going to start now. I care about what they produce and Rasford is far from good enough.

i hope he can be happy as he seems like a nice fella but all I care about is the game. These lads and the way they play is dragging us down.

 

[Jack-C20]

He’s looked so far off it for some time but tonight was particularly bad in the second half. Fans don’t like bad touches, wayward shots or loose passes but a lack of motivation/effort is infinitely more annoying. From memory he actually looked reasonably bright in spells in the first half but picked the wrong option a few times.

Mental health can most definitely be playing a part. Didn’t we hire a sports psychologist recently? And is it lazy of me to think they’d pick up on issues like this?

Rashford has felt untouchable in terms of selection when his body is fit (and even when it’s not) so if the management have picked up on it, you have to assume they’re trying to play him into form. Something needs to change though as this doesn’t seem to be working.

 

[Mr Pigeon]

And how do you think the fans would react if Rashford put out a statement saying he doesn't want to play?
He's damned of he does, damned of he doesn't.

They are human beings for feck sake, not robots. They are also prone to human emotions.
Look at Gary Speed, Aaron Lennon, Clarke Carlisle and countless others. Also the reports recently the FIFPRO survey on depression showed that double the number of professional footballers were experiencing depression than before the pandemic started.
They are fecking humans and Rashford needs a rest and help, and not people telling him he needs to be moved on because he's weak.

Yup, yup, I'm nodding furiously at this.

 

[TheReligion]

Sorry if I'm cynical but no one was making these threads when Martial was getting this abuse since day one from media, this forum and so on and so forth.

And anyway, if he's not right, he should make himself unavailable. At some point, he needs to take the responsibility of his performances and mental health.

Martial never got the abuse Rashford did following the Euros.

 

[Chairman Steve]

It’s pure speculation anyway to think it’s mental health issues really. No-one knows. I think people are inclined to think it’s that because it’s hard to hate Rashford because 1) he’s an academy product and local lad and 2) he has done credible philanthropy work that would eclipse any achievement in football he may get.

Maybe he’s arrogant and think he’s made it
Maybe he’s stroppy because Ralf is making him work more than Solskjaer ever did
Maybe he does have genuine mental health problems unrelated to football

If it’s a case of arrogant and/or stroppy then he deserves the criticism. If it’s genuine mental health problem then I would strongly advise him to take a break from football altogether immediately… don’t even turn up at team training.

But I’m assuming if he is making himself available then his mental health is fine. He is not helping himself one bit if he has genuine mental health issues and continuing to be an active player. Ralf has a sports psychologist in his coaching staff so I imagine it would have been found pretty quickly.

 

[OL29]

Martial never got the abuse Rashford did following the Euros.

He was racially abused on social media to the point where the club hired security for him and his family. He’s been called all sorts by our own fans, including on this forum. I don’t know if he or Rashford have had it worse but it’s unacceptable for any player to be abused the way these two have.

 

[Champ]

I said step aside because it’s not good enough for United. It’s far from good enough for United to have one of your flagship players walking around like thatZ

Rashford is a master at “putting his hands up” I feel like if there was actually something really wrong with him besides falling out of love with the game or becoming disillusioned with life at Utd (who wouldn’t be disillusioned with these owners?) He’d actually say it. He’s brave enough to do it. In the meantime, his football is absolutely terrible and that’s what he’s getting paid a lifetimes worth of money every week to do. That’s what I’m most interested in and why I post on these boards. I don’t care about the players personal lives. I care about what they produce and Rasford is far from good enough

I'm sorry you feel that way!

Rashford is plenty good enough, but clearly is in bad form and looks to have some issues he needs to work through.
They won't be helped by having him 'move aside'.
A rest maybe in order, but if he puts himself forward for the team and keeps getting picked, that isn't his fault.

 

[Champ]

Yup, yup, I'm nodding furiously at this.

Pigeons always nod though.

 

[TheReligion]

He was racially abused on social media to the point where the club hired security for him and his family. He’s been called all sorts by our own fans, including on this forum. I don’t know if he or Rashford have had it worse but it’s unacceptable for any player to be abused the way these two have.

Who said it was?

 

[Dan_F]

Most people with mental health issues can’t just exit the spotlight like these guys can choose to do at any point. It’s honestly almost an insulting comparison.

It comes with the territory with Manchester United. If you don’t play well you’ll be scrutinised more than at any other club in the world, especially if it appears you’re using the support to push your own brand. There’s a reason no one bother Cleverley or Fellaini any more, they left the bubble.

If it’s too much for them they have that option most people with mental health issues don’t have. They can go play a child’s game for a few less tens of thousands of pounds per week and remove that extreme level of exposure.

Your post makes no sense. What do you mean most people with mental health issues can’t exit the spotlight? Do most people work in front of millions and have everything they do scrutinised. Do they turn on their phone and just have abusive message after abusive message.

If anything, not being able to exit the spotlight is probably one of the hardest things a footballer with mental health issues has to deal with.

 

[Rightnr]

Martial never got the abuse Rashford did following the Euros.

I am not here to measure who's had it worse but Martial literally was called a waste of money in the UK before he kicked a ball, hence the famous chant.

And it's not just the press, our 'fans' have been on his case since day one and way before he was not playing well.

He was 18 when he arrived and no one talked about being young, it being difficult etc.

I might seem to have an anti-British agenda but I also have a bit of personal experience on these things and being measure by different yard sticks. All I'm saying is that it's funny how these threads were never made when Martial was getting absolutely spat on everywhere, being called lazy, etc., etc.

 

[TheReligion]

I said step aside because it’s not good enough for United. It’s far from good enough for United to have one of your flagship players walking around like that.

Rashford is a master at “putting his hands up” I feel like if there was actually something really wrong with him besides falling out of love with the game or becoming disillusioned with life at Utd (who wouldn’t be disillusioned with these owners?) He’d actually say it. He’s brave enough to do it. In the meantime, his football is absolutely terrible and that’s what he’s getting paid a lifetimes worth of money every week to do. That’s what I’m most interested in and why I post on these boards. I don’t care about the players personal lives and never have. I’m not going to start now. I care about what they produce and Rasford is far from good enough.

i hope he can be happy as he seems like a nice fella but all I care about is the game. These lads and the way they play is dragging us down.

That's a horrible take really

 

[TheReligion]

I am not here to measure who's had it worse but Martial literally was called a waste of money in the UK before he kicked a ball, hence the famous chant.

And it's not just the press, our 'fans' have been on his case since day one and way before he was not playing well.

He was 18 when he arrived and no one talked about being young, it being difficult etc.

I might seem to have an anti-British agenda but I also have a bit of personal experience on these things and being measure by different yard sticks. All I'm saying is that it's funny how these threads were never made when Martial was getting absolutely spat on everywhere, being called lazy, etc., etc.

So what? That's football.

The racial and personal abuse is unacceptable but if you can't handle the media then you shouldn't play at United.

 

[#07]

Isn't this why we brought a Sports psychologist to the club though? If its that bad go talk to him.

Also, while I sympathise with the fact that when I make a mistake at work I don't have 70,000+ jeering me. I also don't have my agents or my 'team' put s-t in newspapers about the manager and how I had to google him, or how I'm upset to be finishing work at 5pm and driving home in the dark, or how Ronaldo's a bully and he's too demanding and constantly on top of me.

All we get from this squad are excuses. Its no wonder people have finally got sick of it.

Enough with the professions of love and the sorrowful social media posts: Show it on the pitch. If a kid like Anthony Elanga can come on and show some effort, why can't our senior pros? Our so-called leaders in the dressing room?

 

[Rightnr]

So what? That's football.

The racial and personal abuse is unacceptable but if you can't handle the media then you shouldn't play at United.

And not being able to handle the fans' criticism is not part of being at United? Come on, you're making this too easy...

 

[moses]

I blame social media.

People were assholes long before social media.

 

[TheReligion]

And not being able to handle the fans' criticism is not part of being at United? Come on, you're making this too easy...

Yes it is. Who said it wasn't?

 

[TheReligion]

Isn't this why we brought a Sports psychologist to the club though? If its that bad go talk to him.

Also, while I sympathise with the fact that when I make a mistake at work I don't have 70,000+ jeering me. I also don't have my agents or my 'team' put s-t in newspapers about the manager and how I had to google him, or how I'm upset to be finishing work at 5pm and driving home in the dark, or how Ronaldo's a bully and he's too demanding and constantly on top of me.

All we get from this squad are excuses. Its no wonder people have finally got sick of it.

Enough with the professions of love and the sorrowful social media posts: Show it on the pitch. If a kid like Anthony Elanga can come on and show some effort, why can't our senior pros? Our so-called leaders in the dressing room?

Who said he isn't?

Obviously Rangnick has picked up on something with the players hence bringing one in

 

[Dan_F]

Isn't this why we brought a Sports psychologist to the club though? If its that bad go talk to him.

Also, while I sympathise with the fact that when I make a mistake at work I don't have 70,000+ jeering me. I also don't have my agents or my 'team' put s-t in newspapers about the manager and how I had to google him, or how I'm upset to be finishing work at 5pm and driving home in the dark, or how Ronaldo's a bully and he's too demanding and constantly on top of me.

All we get from this squad are excuses. Its no wonder people have finally got sick of it.

Enough with the professions of love and the sorrowful social media posts: Show it on the pitch. If a kid like Anthony Elanga can come on and show some effort, why can't our senior pros? Our so-called leaders in the dressing room?

What and that’s it, mental health issues sorted? I do wonder why anyone suffers from anxiety, depression etc. They could just go and see our man for a week or two and have a chat.

 

[moses]

So what? That's football.

The racial and personal abuse is unacceptable but if you can't handle the media then you shouldn't play at United.

I don't mind all the stick thrown at the club and team but I really don't like people calling the players cnuts or the like. I know it's always been part of it , but it seems to have a venom. Like I'm sure I called Ralph Milne awful names but I never hated him. I know I sound like an old man, but I am an old man.

 

[Ali Dia]

That's a horrible take really

Without any proof some of you are trying to read between the lines in a kind of attempt to absolve or explain the way he’s been playing and carrying himself on the pitch. He’s just a footballer to me, he’s not my friend. I don’t idolise him or wonder about what he does in his ordinary life. If he’s depressed like millions of other people (myself included) then I hope he gets the help he needs. From a purely sporting perspective we probably shouldn’t be depending on him to play football at the highest level every week in the meantime if that is actually the case. That’s all I’m saying. Either way if he’s depressed or not he needs time out of the team.

 

[tomaldinho1]

Isn't this why we brought a Sports psychologist to the club though? If its that bad go talk to him.

Also, while I sympathise with the fact that when I make a mistake at work I don't have 70,000+ jeering me. I also don't have my agents or my 'team' put s-t in newspapers about the manager and how I had to google him, or how I'm upset to be finishing work at 5pm and driving home in the dark, or how Ronaldo's a bully and he's too demanding and constantly on top of me.

All we get from this squad are excuses. Its no wonder people have finally got sick of it.

Enough with the professions of love and the sorrowful social media posts: Show it on the pitch. If a kid like Anthony Elanga can come on and show some effort, why can't our senior pros? Our so-called leaders in the dressing room?

The psychologist is apparently game specific i.e. decision making, trying to improve speed of thought etc. I don't think he's a shrink.

 

[horsechoker]

I said in an earlier thread people were going too far with insulting Rashford. His play does criticism but it should stop there, we're not speaking about someone who has come in for a big fee with a big reputation nor someone who flirts aug other clubs. He's one of our own and he's been one of our best players until now.

I don't know whether it's a mental health issue or just a confidence issue but I believe Rashford can make a comeback.

 

[Mick1]

Chopping everything up to mental health with no concrete evidence does a disservice to people actually suffering from said conditions.

There is no indication for that, no diagnosis, and this is pure speculation.

All we know is he s been rubbish for a while and people on social media are slating him for it. I don't get how this is any different to any other player in the limelight. Players get ripped when they play bad, it just doesn't mean as much when it s not the United Golden Boy. If anything, Rashford has been more protected than most other English lads and he s had one good season.

As a caveat, Rashford is my favorite person at United, not just player. And unless the player or a close source gives any indication as to the opposite, spreading false narrative about someone struggling with mental health to justify poor form on the pitch seems counterproductive when the ultimate aim is to take mental illnesses more seriously.

 

[TheReligion]

I don't mind all the stick thrown at the club and team but I really don't like people calling the players cnuts or the like. I know it's always been part of it , but it seems to have a venom. Like I'm sure I called Ralph Milne awful names but I never hated him. I know I sound like an old man, but I am an old man.

The mentality is weak and has been for a while. Every coach we've had has picked up on it. Why do you think that's the case?

Night and day when you compare it to SAF days.

 

[redcafe_reader]

Chopping everything up to mental health with no concrete evidence does a disservice to people actually suffering from said conditions.

There is no indication for that, no diagnosis, and this is pure speculation.

All we know is he s been rubbish for a while and people on social media are slating him for it. I don't get how this is any different to any other player in the limelight. Players get ripped when they play bad, it just doesn't mean as much when it s not the United Golden Boy. If anything, Rashford has been more protected than most other English lads and he s had one good season.

As a caveat, Rashford is my favorite person at United, not just player. And unless the player or a close source gives any indication as to the opposite, spreading false narrative about someone struggling with mental health to justify poor form on the pitch seems counterproductive when the ultimate aim is to take mental illnesses more seriously.

Bingo.

 

[moses]

The mentality is weak and has been for a while. Every coach we've had has picked up on it. Why do you think that's the case?

Night and day when you compare it to SAF days.

I honestly don't know why the mentality is weak but it clearly is.

 

[GDaly95]

Rashford situation aside, some people here really lack empathy towards people with mental health issues.

 

[Ali Dia]

Chopping everything up to mental health with no concrete evidence does a disservice to people actually suffering from said conditions.

There is no indication for that, no diagnosis, and this is pure speculation.

All we know is he s been rubbish for a while and people on social media are slating him for it. I don't get how this is any different to any other player in the limelight. Players get ripped when they play bad, it just doesn't mean as much when it s not the United Golden Boy. If anything, Rashford has been more protected than most other English lads and he s had one good season.

As a caveat, Rashford is my favorite person at United, not just player. And unless the player or a close source gives any indication as to the opposite, spreading false narrative about someone struggling with mental health to justify poor form on the pitch seems counterproductive when the ultimate aim is to take mental illnesses more seriously.

well said. people are reaching as they always do when it comes to certain players.

 

[DickDastardly]

People were assholes long before social media.

Yeah, maybe so, but that wasn't what i was aiming for.

We didn't know shit about our players until the age of social media.

Just ten years ago we lost the title on the final day of the season....you punched the wall and moved on.
Sure, you read about it the next day in the papers, maybe read an online article about it and that's it.
Moving on.

We didn't have a clue what Cleverley or Anderson were doing outside of the pitch. Nor did I care. Nor did they.

Were they depressed? Did Anderson have a eating disorder? Feck do i care.

Perform on the pitch or move on.

Nowdays is all too personal. Marcus is feeding the poor. Good for you. You're a good kid.
Could you play football now?

I kinda miss the ruthlesness. Perform or die.
Well, not die, but, get out of the way then.