Naaah he'd be hated, he's excellent but he's Suarez level of cnutish.
Bruno Fernandes’ “Bad Season”
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Perfect description.
And yes, the disrespect he gets from (some of) our fans is ridiculous.
He’s a sensational player. I do like the chaotically brilliant description. Those who get on his back are usually strange types.
I remember having this out with @Brwned a while back and he came up with some insanely tortuous logic to try and spin these incontrovertible facts into Bruno somehow being miles more careless in possession than KdB. It seems perfectly simple to me. 3 out of 4 passes (ish) find their team mates. They both lose the ball as much as each other. So all that matters then is how many chances they’re creating with that level of wastage and Bruno comes out of that comparison very well indeed.
The only thing I will say is that Bruno’s habit of very occasionally doing an outrageously weird/bad pass under zero pressure is a bit unusual. I don’t think it’s ever cost us though. So who gives a shit?!
Modern day Cantona.
Of course you would hate him if he played for another team but as a player the caf would love him and he would be considered world class.
Back in form, back to being one of the best midfielders in Europe.
Honestly... Rooney might actually be the best comparison for Bruno I've heard in a long time. Obviously he doesn't have the physical traits, but their play styles are incredibly similar in that they just tend to chase the ball, are somewhat mad geniuses on the pitch, and very underrated with both feet. Both also never found the "right" position, and I wonder if Bruno can ever adapt his game to a system enough to find that. Football has changed the past 10 years in that players that work within systems are more important than individual players that standout on their own.
Nowhere near.
That last part isn't true it's cost us plenty of times when we have been under pressure as a team in a match.
I don't think Bruno is on KDB's level personally, he's a level below. But that has nothing to do with his production really, much more with how much KDB offers within the structure of a midfield and building up.
City generally keep the ball better that we do too, 88.3% versus 81.3%. You could probably argue that KDB's stats benefit from playing in a team so well structured in terms of giving each other passing options. Move him to United and it would hardly be surprising if his passing acccuracy dipped that bit more.
I’m talking about single specific passes leading to us conceding. When he’s averaging 75% pass completion that doesn’t put his team under any more pressure than any other player with the same stat.
I’ve always thought that KdB was a much better player too but it’s hard to argue with the stats and fans tend to nit-pick more about their own players because they watch every minute of every game. One big advantage Bruno has over KdB in the last few years is how consistently he’s available for selection. That’s a very under-rated attribute that players like Bruno (and Fred) don’t get enough credit for.
Yup and Bruno can only dream of the constant movement and array of passing options that KdB gets from the players around him at City.
Best player post Fergie for me. He can be reckless sometimes, but even if he’s having a bad day, he always gives it his all. His numbers are absolutely insane in the time he’s been here. I think a manager like Pep would have made both him and Pogba work. Just imagine those two in a fully functioning team with a mobile striker.
I hope he wins something big with us soon. Absolutely deserves it.
I hope he wins something big with us soon. Absolutely deserves it.
His numbers must be fairly close to last years, if you disregard penalties. I also think he has improved somewhat in his decision making. Under Ole he would go for the 50 yard killer pass way too often, but he seems to retain possession better now. Still plays with high risk, but in a more measured way.
Best player we have and should be captain.
Imagine if he was British.
Weird reason to tag someone
He's our best player. It's a shame for him that nobody else on our team is on his level as we're not able to get the best out of him. Though I suspect, Sancho, when he settles will build a great relationship with him. That assist for Elanga was pure filth. Nobody else on our team is trying that in a million years.
He’s class. Would love to see what he can do as a false 9 dropping deep and causing havoc.
Not really. The last time I discussed Bruno’s pass completion % vs KdB’s was with you. So you popped into my mind when it came up again.
Plus I do think you’re someone that consistently underrates what Bruno brings to the team, which is what this thread is about. I think it’s mainly because I so rarely disagree with you about football stuff (or any stuff) that makes your Bruno bashing stick in the memory.
Brilliant player.
People not seeing his quality, and not just goals and assists, need to change sport they are watching. I think it is funny when people want to bench him or sell him or whatever this place want.
Fair enough. Our opinions on Bruno are probably a lot closer than you think. I think Bruno's great. I just don't agree with the Cantona-esque / talisman / he's so good we don't deserve him framing, and arguing against that inevitably means exploring his deficiencies. And we have different views on his passing. No big deal. I think he's a lot like Giggs. Often brilliant, often frustrating. I admire their vision, creativity and fearlessness much more than their execution. I think it's much better for that kind of player to be an essential part of the supporting cast rather than the player you build a team around, and I think we're well on the way to that now.
Any stats on our win % when bruno and pogba play together vs just bruno? pogba controls the midfield better than with McFred so cosequently we hold on to the ball better (see Brighton when pogba came on) and pogba takes a lot of the creative burden away from Bruno... like pogba whilst not having as many assists, creates a lot of assists before the assist if that makes sense
Cristiano Ronaldo 'Bad season"
15 goals
3 Assists
26 starts
I think Ronaldo has been well below his standard but putting stats up make him look far better than he has been as is the case with Bruno. Bruno hasn't had a bad season but he's not really been good either. I'd say the maximum you could rate him this season is 7/10.
15 goals
3 Assists
26 starts
I think Ronaldo has been well below his standard but putting stats up make him look far better than he has been as is the case with Bruno. Bruno hasn't had a bad season but he's not really been good either. I'd say the maximum you could rate him this season is 7/10.
Maybe controversial in saying but I think Fernandes is a better player when Ronaldo isn’t on the pitch and has pace around him to play with, I’m not one of the anti Ronaldo brigade but I think Fernandes is sacrificing a fair bit of his game for Ronaldo b which means not as much comes off.
I think I you can appreciate how good Bruno is and be frustrated with him simultaneously. If we draw the game 2-2 today, the narrative (quite rightly) would have been about Bruno making a meal of that challenge. There’s something about the way he plays the game when things are going against him that doesn’t sit quite right with me, and whilst he’s clearly our most productive player, he’s down the list of United players I actually like the most. There’s just absolutely no need for some of the whinging, a lot of it is cringeworthy and he has undoubtedly built a reputation as a bit of a drama queen so refs are less inclined to blow the whistle for a foul on him.
His belief in himself though is other worldly. Even when things aren’t coming off, he will still try something audacious, where the risk reward factor is extremely against him. But almost every single game he’s played for us, he’s done something tht almost no one else on the park would think about, let alone be capable of pulling it off. He must be a nightmare to play against too, never stops moving and doesn’t mind getting stuck in. Before Ralf, I felt like his pressing was a bit fake, in that he would chase down balls giving the allure of someone who was giving it his all but was in fact just putting himself in an awkward position and leaving his teammates struggling to cover the space he vacated. But now, the pressing seems more mature and the stats might not back this up but I feel like he’s way more likely to actually win the ball back for us now.
Bruno, Pogba and Sancho need to start as Many games as possible. When they get on the same wavelength consistently, it’s going to result in Ronaldo realizing he doesn’t need to be involved in the build up, those guys are going to create chances for fun.
His belief in himself though is other worldly. Even when things aren’t coming off, he will still try something audacious, where the risk reward factor is extremely against him. But almost every single game he’s played for us, he’s done something tht almost no one else on the park would think about, let alone be capable of pulling it off. He must be a nightmare to play against too, never stops moving and doesn’t mind getting stuck in. Before Ralf, I felt like his pressing was a bit fake, in that he would chase down balls giving the allure of someone who was giving it his all but was in fact just putting himself in an awkward position and leaving his teammates struggling to cover the space he vacated. But now, the pressing seems more mature and the stats might not back this up but I feel like he’s way more likely to actually win the ball back for us now.
Bruno, Pogba and Sancho need to start as Many games as possible. When they get on the same wavelength consistently, it’s going to result in Ronaldo realizing he doesn’t need to be involved in the build up, those guys are going to create chances for fun.
Something something he gives the ball away too much something something 
I think Ronaldo was fantastic too in the first half of the season, considering the circumstances. 14 goals - he could not have done anymore, but he’s unfortunately tailed off now despite the team’s collective improvement. I think Bruno has been pretty good throughout. 7.5/10 for me.
Penandes.
I don't think Bruno's comparable to KdB really ... the City comparison that's more fitting is Foden to me, but Foden's not a peak player yet, so doesn't work for some. KdB would immensely improve Utd in a direct swap with Bruno as he'd break up McFred, not actually replace Bruno imo.... not a sleight on Bruno, they're just different to me, Pep would also love Bruno at the top of his non-striker setups, which is a role KdB's a bit choppy in.
45.8% passing accuracy and some in here are saying he is ridiculously good? How many times do we have to learn that dismissing general performance is why we can’t mount a title challenge? He wasn’t very good today regardless of the stats. He needs to stop his carelessness with the ball. It works against Leeds but not better opposition.
Pogba literally (quite literally) did the same in the first half.
Can't help but like him, even though he's a massive whingebag.
With a player like him, you lose something from his game if you try to reign him in. Still I think he needs to play with more composure and be a bit more measured at times.
With a player like him, you lose something from his game if you try to reign him in. Still I think he needs to play with more composure and be a bit more measured at times.
I must’ve missed Fernandes being a racist and biting people then?
Heard a stat, since Bruno last scored a penalty, only Salah & Jota have scored more non penalty goals than Bruno.
I hope Bruno gets to win a premiership title with us
Word. Bruno has ups and downs, just like every other great footballer, but he's the best thing that has happened to us since Fergie. Most consistent, most impactful, practically no injuries ever, playing every match. Best player in our squad, impact-wise, by a long mile.
Bruno is the only player that you are certain would make any of Fergie's teams or any of today's top teams. He is world class and his attitude is impeccable.
Yea i agree.
His fitness levels are insane. He must have some crazy minutes stats on the field since we signed him.