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I say this as someone who admits not getting to many games but the disconnect between the match going fans and their growing disillusionment with Rashford and the whole top-red ‘leave Britney alone’, ‘if anyone’s to blame it’s a Thatcher’, big girls blouse hysteria you see online and social media from those defending him is noticeable
 

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Mental capability to withstand abuses and unfair criticism (if any) is what differentiates between a player that can make it and a player that can't.

Ronaldo has been booed by his own Real Madrid fans and has been nicknamed "penaldo" "tap in merchant" "diving c**t" for more than a decade.
Beckham was the enemy of England after 1998 world cup.

To the contrary, Rashford got all the cuddles after his penalty miss last year.
 

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Here we go what?

The abuse that lad is taking is ridiculous. He's not playing poorly on purpose.

You're all absolute nobodies. What the hell have you all done in your lives? This lad has achieved more than any of us ever will by the age of 24.

We can all be critical of players performances but we don't abuse them directly. Only absolute cretins do that.
Why are you utterly obsessed with comparing the accomplishments of a player earning £200,000 a week with those on a football forum? I've noticed it a lot, and it seems to be your go-to response for everything.

Props to him for his work with the free school meals thing, but this forum is littered with doctors, nurses, vets, NHS staff and countless other occupations that help people on a daily basis. Have they achieved nothing in their lives because they don't play in front of thousands of people every week and earn more in a week than most will earn in 4 or 5 years? Is that your threshold?

"Abuse" - have a fecking word with yourself.
 

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No he hasn't. Last season he got over 20 goals and 13 assists from the left.

This season he's been very poor no question. So have most of them though.

This is clearly personal for many. I have never seen people go in on a substitute as much in my life. He only came on because the ones sent out from the start were useless too.

People need to start going in on the real issue. The owners and board.
Look, it's a player performance thread for Rashford, every player who has a good or bad game gets a reaction in volumes. If you don't like it then perhaps don't enter this thread? You're only going to wind yourself up further by defending him when he's been poor.

Doesn't matter if he was a sub or not. He came on to try make a difference, he didn't and was poor. This season he has barely gone above a 5/10 performance and so fans are rightly pissed about his performance.

You are going to get a few posters with OTT reactions, that's expected as people can be irrational at times. You don't help your cause by hurling insults directly back at them.

I do agree with you by the way that he has had very good seasons before January 2021. But you do have to agree since then he's been very poor right? And that's what matters to the fans is what is happening this season, not focussing on the past.
 

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Mental capability to withstand abuses and unfair criticism (if any) is what differentiates between a player that can make it and a player that can't.

Ronaldo has been booed by his own Real Madrid fans and has been nicknamed "penaldo" "tap in merchant" "diving c**t" for more than a decade.
Beckham was the enemy of England after 1998 world cup.

To the contrary, Rashford got all the cuddles after his penalty miss last year.
And the racist abuse.
 

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It’s counterproductive I think, just shattering any small bit of confidence they have left.
feck them in all honesty, they are living pampered lifestyles ultimately paid for by us customers of the shit they serve up. If they are putting more effort into twitter feeds than on the pitch then they should expect flack
 

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The idea we stick with academy players when it’s clear they’re not even willing to make the effort - quite apart from arguments over whether they’re even good enough in the first place - is such a bastardisation of the ‘United way’ principle that those who espouse it think they’re upholding.
You don't stick with underperforming players indefinitely but with Rashford given his service to the club from the academy onwards, the fact that only last season he scored/assisted 30+ goals while playing with injury. And has been constantly played out of position this season in an underperforming side. Taking all that into account for me he deserves more time than most to rediscover his form without a large section of the fanbase turning on him and hoping to hound him out.
 

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No defending his terrible season but I find it shocking the majority wants him sold or believe he's finished when he is still coming out of a 30+ G/A season ...
 

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Rashford being from a working class background in football is as unique as him having two legs. This isn’t rugby. Trying to turn this into a class issue is fairly desperate. I’m sure all the millionaires in the stands should know better than getting on his case.

But yeah the factory lad in the stands on minimum wage is a class fascist because he’s critical of the millionaires workrate
Why would you say that ? Do you know Rashford come from working class background and has faced hardships his whole life and the fans in the stands are bunch of millionaires and noble heirs born from ultra rich families who have never work a second in their life ?
 

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It's nearly a season and a half. That's a long time in football. There's bad form and a club keeping faith during that (as everyone has done with Rashford) buy you have to have a cut off point after which you're basically running your club badly or wishing bad on it. I'm not quite there for Rashford but if he doesn't hit his stride by the end of rhe season we should at least try to loan him out.
It is but you have to take into context the events surrounding this poor period of form into account. Last season he was playing with a pretty bad injury especially towards the end of the season and it showed, he then took that injury into the Euros instead of getting it fixed and resting up to be ready for the new season, bad decision on his part. Missed the first few months of this season and when he did return the team was in turmoil. The manager got sacked soon after and the new manager came in who still hasn't figured out he's not capable of playing on the right wing. But yet insists on playing him almost exclusively there, Rashford has never shown he's capable of much playing from the right even before his poor form. So it should be of no surprise to anyone that who has watched his career that his form is in the shitter, if he isn't going to be played on the left or up front then he shouldn't be played at all.
 

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No defending his terrible season but I find it shocking the majority wants him sold or believe he's finished when he is still coming out of a 30+ G/A season ...
Since start of 2021 and up to now, just about 15 months: 2586 minutes or premier league football, 8 goals, 8 assists, 41 matches played
 

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He's an embarrassment. Lingard too. Thinking of guys like Keane, vidic, Irwin... Loads of others you'd be proud to support. I've never seen a player so clearly ruined by his 'people'
 

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You don't stick with underperforming players indefinitely but with Rashford given his service to the club from the academy onwards, the fact that only last season he scored/assisted 30+ goals while playing with injury. And has been constantly played out of position this season in an underperforming side. Taking all that into account for me he deserves more time than most to rediscover his form without a large section of the fanbase turning on him and hoping to hound him out.
The problem with that is he would regularly pop up with a goal which would mask a generally poor performance as he was dire for most of last season.
This season however has been an absolute shambles from both a performance and statistical point but the worst thing is he doesn’t look like he can be arsed.
 

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The problem with that is he would regularly pop up with a goal which would mask a generally poor performance as he was dire for most of last season.
This season however has been an absolute shambles from both a performance and statistical point but the worst thing is he doesn’t look like he can be arsed.
People genuinely do have a problem with others suggesting scoring a goal (or getting a ‘goal contribution’ sticker) doesn’t mean they played well.

I wonder if it’s because it’s so expensive to watch football these days that we’ve have fans who, unless they can find a successful stream, just assess what happened and how everyone played by reading the stats. You’re right to say Rashford has been awful for a long time even during the period he’d score the odd goal
 

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The problem with that is he would regularly pop up with a goal which would mask a generally poor performance as he was dire for most of last season.
True but personally I put that down to a good player remaining productive while playing with injuries.

This season however has been an absolute shambles from both a performance and statistical point but the worst thing is he doesn’t look like he can be arsed.
It has but it shouldn't surprise anyone that a player won't regain their form constantly being played out of position in an underperforming team.
 

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Rashford needs to exit or the criticism will not stop. He would help himself a lot if he stepped away from the limelight.
 

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It is but you have to take into context the events surrounding this poor period of form into account. Last season he was playing with a pretty bad injury especially towards the end of the season and it showed, he then took that injury into the Euros instead of getting it fixed and resting up to be ready for the new season, bad decision on his part. Missed the first few months of this season and when he did return the team was in turmoil. The manager got sacked soon after and the new manager came in who still hasn't figured out he's not capable of playing on the right wing. But yet insists on playing him almost exclusively there, Rashford has never shown he's capable of much playing from the right even before his poor form. So it should be of no surprise to anyone that who has watched his career that his form is in the shitter, if he isn't going to be played on the left or up front then he shouldn't be played at all.
It would have to be that then. No manager I his right mind is going to move Sancho around who is playing miles better or Ronaldo given his track record. Rashford is also a really bad CF. It's not his position.
 

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Mental capability to withstand abuses and unfair criticism (if any) is what differentiates between a player that can make it and a player that can't.

Ronaldo has been booed by his own Real Madrid fans and has been nicknamed "penaldo" "tap in merchant" "diving c**t" for more than a decade.
Beckham was the enemy of England after 1998 world cup.

To the contrary, Rashford got all the cuddles after his penalty miss last year.
Good point. It is clear that the new generation of players are mentally extremely weak. Social media doesn't help.
 

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People genuinely do have a problem with others suggesting scoring a goal (or getting a ‘goal contribution’ sticker) doesn’t mean they played well.

I wonder if it’s because it’s so expensive to watch football these days that we’ve have fans who, unless they can find a successful stream, just assess what happened and how everyone played by reading the stats. You’re right to say Rashford has been awful for a long time even during the period he’d score the odd goal
It’s basically the same discussion that’s been had at team level over the past two years.

We had one camp that could see that we played like shit despite getting results and one camp that said “win=good, loss=bad” regardless of how it happened, or who used the performances of other teams to judge the way United were performing (league position never lies and total amount of points accumulated over the season didn’t matter to them).
 

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His attitude is summed up by the fact that he picked playing for England over a much needed shoulder surgery at the end of last season. The club that pays him a very large amount of money every week is clearly playing second fiddle in his thought process.

Its clear he thinks he's bigger than the club and now he can live with the consequences as he jets off on his 3rd or 4th holiday in the past year.

Can you imagine something like that happening under Fergie? Players like him have been allowed to get away doing what they want for too long.

What an abosolute shambles of a decision by the player, the club and no doubt his advisors. (id love to have seen the PR projects and endorsements they had lined up for him lifting the trophy with England)
 

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It would have to be that then. No manager I his right mind is going to move Sancho around who is playing miles better or Ronaldo given his track record. Rashford is also a really bad CF. It's not his position.
I agree he's not a great striker to me he's always looked better form the left, but he's certainly better up front than he is on the right that's for sure. I also agree a lot of managers would prefer to keep Sancho on the left. But when Rangnick first arrived Sancho was looking pretty confident and effective on the right under Carrick, I believe Ralf should have kept him there and for a while at least gave Rashford a run on the left to see if he could gain his confidence back and find form.

But right now for the remainder of the season it would probably be best to leave Rashford out and give him a break from the firing line. Elanga is doing ok and can fill in on the right, shifting Sancho across and playing Pogba on the left is another option if needed.
 

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It's bizarre the animosity that's that's sprung up around Rashford and what seems like desperation from some for him to leave. That can't solely be down to poor his form, think quite a number of United fans have had a number done on them by sections of the British media.

If it is solely down to a young player being in bad form and losing his confidence then Jesus that is fickle.
I couldn't care less about his politics. In fact, I like him for it. What he did, feeding kids during lock down was immense.

Putting aside what he does and actually judging him from what he's supposed to be, a footballer, he's been woeful. I can accept players being out of form, but his general demeanor on the field, the laziness you see from him, the shirking of personal responsibility to his poor form in the interview he gave when Ole got sacked....all of that makes me rather open to the idea of him leaving. And that's saying something because just over a year ago, I'd loathe the idea of losing the one Academy player who's actually come good, post Fergie.
 

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Another puff piece about him in the Mail. His PR team really into overdrive.
 

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Really rooting for him to come back strong so I'm hoping this can all be sorted by some time away in the summer and a strong pre-season under a new manager.
 

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I agree he's not a great striker to me he's always looked better form the left, but he's certainly better up front than he is on the right that's for sure. I also agree a lot of managers would prefer to keep Sancho on the left. But when Rangnick first arrived Sancho was looking pretty confident and effective on the right under Carrick, I believe Ralf should have kept him there and for a while at least gave Rashford a run on the left to see if he could gain his confidence back and find form.

But right now for the remainder of the season it would probably be best to leave Rashford out and give him a break from the firing line. Elanga is doing ok and can fill in on the right, shifting Sancho across and playing Pogba on the left is another option if needed.
He's not good up front because he can't head the ball and is also terrible at getting into the six yard box to get on the end of things (doesn't have a poachers instinct or that desperation to score that all elite strikers have).

He's a terrible winger defensively on both sides.

With his current form on top of all that a contract renewal should not be currently on the agenda
 

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Ah jesus. He is not helping himself at all.

By all means if you are doing it on the pitch. But he is not. I still think there is a really good player there, but i would ease off the social media for a while if i were him.
 

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Yeah, definitely seems to be his forefinger from that. Are those saying he gave someone the middle finger referring to a different clip?
I'm sorry but it's clear he meant the middle. If he gave his forefinger it's to give himself liability. What reason would you lift your finger in that way?
 

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I've got a question.

I do criticize Rashford's terrible performances and he is in a bad form now, can't do anything right on the ball or off the ball.

If the coaches want to get him playing better, shouldn't they at least play him in his preferred LW role?

I know as of now Sancho is the best option for the LW position, but if we want Rashford to regain some form, I think playing him in a familiar position/role is the best way, of course he has to give 100% effort on the pitch, but I believe putting Rashford on the left, where his best performances came from in the past, might help him improve.

Rashford is in a bad form now, I feel playing him RW, which requires him to be more creative and putting in crosses, instead of being the threat he used to be on the left (like coming inside to shoot or making runs behind defenses), compounds the problem that is his current horrible form.
 

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I've got a question.

I do criticize Rashford's terrible performances and he is in a bad form now, can't do anything right on the ball or off the ball.

If the coaches want to get him playing better, shouldn't they at least play him in his preferred LW role?

I know as of now Sancho is the best option for the LW position, but if we want Rashford to regain some form, I think playing him in a familiar position/role is the best way, of course he has to give 100% effort on the pitch, but I believe putting Rashford on the left, where his best performances came from in the past, might help him improve.

Rashford is in a bad form now, I feel playing him RW, which requires him to be more creative and putting in crosses, instead of being the threat he used to be on the left (like coming inside to shoot or making runs behind defenses), compounds the problem that is his current horrible form.
Manchester United performances are more important than Rashford performances.
If he's not good enough to play ahead of Sancho on the left then he plays on the right (if he's good enough) or on the bench. Or at another club
 

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Manchester United performances are more important than Rashford performances.
If he's not good enough to play ahead of Sancho on the left then he plays on the right (if he's good enough) or on the bench. Or at another club
Can't disagree here, I'd rather he is benched than be played on the right, he is really bad there.
 
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