Pogba's contract offer

[hobbers]

Well atleast give him the benefit of the doubt?

He can have the benefit of the doubt until he makes clearly stupid decisions.

Jose and Ole tried to build their teams with Pogba at the heart of them, and both got royally fecked over. If ETH can't learn from their mistakes then he's destined for failure here just the same as they were.

It would be different if Pogba had 2-3 years on his deal and we couldn't shift him. Then it's fair enough to give him a shot in a new system. But to trial Pogba in an ETH team we have to offer him £350-400k a week for god knows how many more seasons. That's a £60-80m gamble on a proven crocked failure. Only an idiot would do that.

 

[AlexUTD]

He can have the benefit of the doubt until he makes clearly stupid decisions.

Jose and Ole tried to build their teams with Pogba at the heart of them, and both got royally fecked over. If ETH can't learn from their mistakes then he's destined for failure here just the same as they were.

It would be different if Pogba had 2-3 years on his deal and we couldn't shift him. Then it's fair enough to give him a shot in a new system. But to trial Pogba in an ETH team we have to offer him £350-400k a week for god knows how many more seasons. That's a £60-80m gamble on a proven crocked failure. Only an idiot would do that.

I agree on Pogba and want him gone.

But if Ten Hag thinks he can get him playing like on France then i would trust him.

 

[90 + 5min]

He is by far our best midfielder and the only one who can actually pass the ball

I would rank him as one of worst and should be behind pretty much every central midfielder. I would rather have Mata playing defensive midfielder than Pogba. And as attacking midifielder he is way behind other players.

 

[RedDevilUnited369]

People really don’t know ball anymore if you think Pogba is our worst midfielder.

Idiots lying to themselves because he and the club have been badly managed since his arrival.

Pogba still our only WC winner and might have another by the end of the year.

 

[AlexUTD]

People really don’t know ball anymore if you think Pogba is our worst midfielder.

Idiots lying to themselves because he and the club have been badly managed since his arrival.

Pogba still our only WC winner and might have another by the end of the year.

Does not mean that he fits into our team.

Its a team sport, not one man show.

 

[Based Adnan]

People really don’t know ball anymore if you think Pogba is our worst midfielder.

Idiots lying to themselves because he and the club have been badly managed since his arrival.

Pogba still our only WC winner and might have another by the end of the year.

Telling people they don't know ball then claiming Pogba is the only WC winner we have when Varane and Mata exist...

 

[redmanx]

I really hope we give him a huge raise and sign him for another five years just to see the meltdown on here.

If we give Pogba another contract then the club will be in melt down too.

 

[redmanx]

Always someone post something like this.

He's useless. He's a sack of s**t. And mostly, a VIRUS.

If Pogba stays we have no hope.

 

[Ali Dia]

Our best midfielder? In 2017 maybe. He’s a flop

 

[Greck]

Most United thing ever was him sabotaging his own fitness in a contract year. Was Dubai really necessary? He could have at least kept his conditioning up while he was there. He must have cost himself a lot of money at his next club. Couldn't even sacrifice for his own long term.

 

[Jericholyte2]

As a few others have said, if he’s got this offer because commercial directors believe they need to keep his brand then they can feck right off, same shit different day. If they’re making the offer because ETH has said he wants him in the team and he thinks he can utilise him to the benefit of the club, then go ahead.

 

[90 + 5min]

People really don’t know ball anymore if you think Pogba is our worst midfielder.

Idiots lying to themselves because he and the club have been badly managed since his arrival.

Pogba still our only WC winner and might have another by the end of the year.

If you knew what people in here have in coaching way (level of licence) and sport CV you would not talk like that. So my advice is that you stop saying we are idiots. We don't need to lie. Everyone can see what he does and doesn't on the pitch.

David May is both Champions League and Premier League winner but you wouldn't say that he is better then some centerbacks we had last couple of years.

 

[Kellyiom]

Maybe ten Hag has suggested he'd be very willing to work with Pogba, hence why it's kept on the table?

That's the only thing I can think, surely ETH would have discussed this in detail? I can't believe it's still a possibility.

 

[Ali Dia]

People really don’t know ball anymore if you think Pogba is our worst midfielder.

Idiots lying to themselves because he and the club have been badly managed since his arrival.

Pogba still our only WC winner and might have another by the end of the year.

Just like Kleberson.

 

[Red00012]

If we intend to play 4-3-3 formation it may work . If we intend on playing 4-2-3-1 just let him go

 

[lsd]

If you knew what people in here have in coaching way (level of licence) and sport CV you would not talk like that. So my advice is that you stop saying we are idiots. We don't need to lie. Everyone can see what he does and doesn't on the pitch.

David May is both Champions League and Premier League winner but you wouldn't say that he is better then some centerbacks we had last couple of years.

What a terrible comparison. France have been far better run than United over the past few years and they know how important Pogba is and more importantly how to use him.

Just because we have been mismanaged since he came and wasted his best years people seem to delight in blaming it all on him.

 

[Cassidy]

What a terrible comparison. France have been far better run than United over the past few years and they know how important Pogba is and more importantly how to use him.

Just because we have been mismanaged since he came and wasted his best years people seem to delight in blaming it all on him.

Are you saying he bears no personal responsibility for his performances in a United shirt?

 

[DickDastardly]

Really hope the club doesn't offer him anything.

You're free to go. Thank you for your services.

Even if somehow TH manages to get the best out of him - it's still not good enough.

While there are a lot of People that think highly of him, he's a nothing player.

The sooner he's gone, the better.

 

[AlexUTD]

Are you saying he bears no personal responsibility for his performances in a United shirt?

Apparently it is everyone elses fault

 

[Wilt]

Really hope the club doesn't offer him anything.

You're free to go. Thank you for your services.

Even if somehow TH manages to get the best out of him - it's still not good enough.

While there are a lot of People that think highly of him, he's a nothing player.

The sooner he's gone, the better.

While Pogba has his obvious annoyances and attitude problems, to call him “not good enough”, “a nothing player” is absolute bollocks.

 

[peridigm]

It would be different if he had another year left so ETH could see how he is going to play in his system but giving him a long term contract now would be a huge gamble and a mistake.

 

[Big Ben Foster]

Other clubs may be offering him lower wages, but with the signing-on fee he'd get as a free agent, he could still come out ahead. We can't make an apples-to-apples comparison without knowing the details.

That said, it's madness that our offer is still on the table.

 

[lsd]

Are you saying he bears no personal responsibility for his performances in a United shirt?

Yes off course he does same as any footballer he has to take some blame if he performs badly but in his case he has shown he is world class when used properly.

That's not his fault at United

 

[Sandikan]

I would rank him as one of worst and should be behind pretty much every central midfielder. I would rather have Mata playing defensive midfielder than Pogba. And as attacking midifielder he is way behind other players.

Pogba is without any doubt our most talented player outside of Ronaldo, who is obviously in his end days.

The issue is never talent, but seemingly a mix of complacency, pea sized heart and us not having found a system that maximises him.

Time to go though, without any doubt.

 

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[Rightnr]

He needs to go, come on. Don't make another mistake to start off our real rebuild.

 

[Knux]

Always felt Pogba’s PSG bound. It’s the most obvious transfer ever. Perfect luxury signing for them.

Can’t see him replace either of Modric, Casemiro or Kroos. Especially now when Camavinga’s been a bright spark for them this season too.


He’s fecked us twice now and it’s time to go seperate ways.

 

[OleGunnar20]

Please just leave Paul. For all of our sakes', just go away.

 

[RedDevilQuebecois]

I agree on Pogba and want him gone.

But if Ten Hag thinks he can get him playing like on France then i would trust him.

No, that would only mean ETH is both deluded and utterly stupid despite all the red flags raised by Rangnick.

 

[caid]

He's been here 6 years. There is no 'if we do x he'll be good', 'if the manager can get pogba going' left at this point, its a fairy tale. People running the club would have to be painfully stupid not to recognise what pogba will and wont do after 6 years.

 

[sunama]

If you trust Ten Hag then you should trust his signings and the players he keep.

ETH is an up and coming manager and this is his first big job.
He is being hyped up on this forum like he is the 2nd coming of Christ, which is not a good thing.
We need to give him a chance, certainly, and see what he can do, but to blindly trust him - no way.
If he starts using the likes of Pogba, McFred, Lingard, Rashford, etc - then like the previous managers, he too, is doomed to fail.

 

[Moriarty]

ETH is an up and coming manager and this is his first big job.
He is being hyped up on this forum like he is the 2nd coming of Christ, which is not a good thing.
We need to give him a chance, certainly, and see what he can do, but to blindly trust him - no way.
If he starts using the likes of Pogba, McFred, Lingard, Rashford, etc - then like the previous managers, he too, is doomed to fail.

Much depends of who we bring in this summer and who leaves. ETH will, most likely, have most of those players.

 

[90 + 5min]

Pogba is without any doubt our most talented player outside of Ronaldo, who is obviously in his end days.

The issue is never talent, but seemingly a mix of complacency, pea sized heart and us not having found a system that maximises him.

Time to go though, without any doubt.

Having some kind of talent is one thing. Every player have some sort of talent. Young or old. Pro, semi or amateur. Woman or man.
I don’t agree with you that he is our most talented player either. He is overrated player.

 

[Hugh Jass]

Pogba is without any doubt our most talented player outside of Ronaldo, who is obviously in his end days.

The issue is never talent, but seemingly a mix of complacency, pea sized heart and us not having found a system that maximises him.

Time to go though, without any doubt.

Far from it.

 

[90 + 5min]

What a terrible comparison. France have been far better run than United over the past few years and they know how important Pogba is and more importantly how to use him.

Just because we have been mismanaged since he came and wasted his best years people seem to delight in blaming it all on him.

I don’t know how and why France is relevant here. He plays 2 ”good” games in a short tournament and he is big thing?
He didn’t waste his years here. He was part of letting club down with lot of other players. Mourinho saw it early.

 

[golden_blunder]

Yes off course he does same as any footballer he has to take some blame if he performs badly but in his case he has shown he is world class when used properly.

That's not his fault at United

And if you’re wrong after a 3rd manager has a go, then we’re left with someone we can’t sell getting a humongous wage.
he wants to go, let him go

 

[lsd]

And if you’re wrong after a 3rd manager has a go, then we’re left with someone we can’t sell getting a humongous wage.
he wants to go, let him go

Does he want to go though? I get the feeling he really likes being at United and it's just the fact we can't challenge for the top trophies is making him look elsewhere.

He is too good a player to assume that we would better off without.

There's no reason we cannot get the best out of him and challenge City and Liverpool. The fact we haven't done that up to now is I believe more the fault of the club than the player

 

[golden_blunder]

Does he want to go though? I get the feeling he really likes being at United and it's just the fact we can't challenge for the top trophies is making him look elsewhere.

He is too good a player to assume that we would better off without.

There's no reason we cannot get the best out of him and challenge City and Liverpool. The fact we haven't done that up to now is I believe more the fault of the club than the player

He’s had a huge contract on the table for a year, of course he wants to go

the player has to assume a big responsibility. Both ole and Jose tried to build teams around him and he hasn’t delivered

the team balance would be better without him in my opinion

 

[Fridge chutney]

It seems like you didn't even watch the tournament you are talking about because the only thing you are bringing in this discussion is him winning the MVP award and nothing else.

I watched almost all matches. He won MVP and was statistically very good (he was our top-rated player according to whoscored, for example). I personally also thought he played well throughout the tournament.

We can agree to disagree.

 

[Fridge chutney]

For me, it wasn't really about his performances till the 18/19 season....the issue was that he stopped caring about playing for us truly after that. For me, he only actually had two seasons for us. Even then, he was never a good fit for the premier league imo. The league was too intense for him

Yes, I agree. He has been underwhelming of late, and he seems to have regressed the past couple of years.