Amad Diallo | Rangers loan watch

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So he went from rotting the bench for a team finishing 2nd in an elite league and losing the Europa final on penalties, to rotting the bench for a team finishing 2nd in a mediocre league and losing the Europa final on penalties. And some people on here have the nerve to call this a successful loan.
Very generous.
 

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When did you see this?
You just know when you see something special in a player. I'd even argue, regardless of the level they play at. It doesn't even have to be anything outlandish, just a subtle movement or weight of pass. In Amad's case, I first saw it in our under 23 team. I have also seen it in some of his cameos for Rangers. I'm amazed at how under utilised he has been at Rangers. I didn't want us to loan him out in the first place. I think he is a better player than Elanga and would be our best right sided player currently.
 
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You just know when you see something special in a player. I'd even argue, regardless of the level they play at. It doesn't even have to be anything outlandish, just a subtle movement or weight of pass. In Amad's case, I first saw it in our under 23 team. I have also seen it in some of his cameos for Rangers. I'm amazed at how under utilised he has been at Rangers. I didn't want us to loan him out in the first place. I think he is a better player than Elanga and would be our best ride sided player currently.
So the coaches at Atalanta didn't think he was ready yet, Ole didn't think he was either, nor did Rangnick and nor has Van Bronckhorst but you have decided that he is based on reserve appearances? There's no doubt that there's talent there but there's still clearly a significant amount of development required, he hasn't played a full 90 minutes in a senior game yet. He needs another loan but the club will have to determine what standard of team he is capable of playing for to ensure that he will actually start games more regularly.
 

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So the coaches at Atalanta didn't think he was ready yet, Ole didn't think he was either, nor did Rangnick and nor has Van Bronckhorst but you have decided that he is based on reserve appearances? There's no doubt that there's talent there but there's still clearly a significant amount of development required, he hasn't played a full 90 minutes in a senior game yet. He needs another loan but the club will have to determine what standard of team he is capable of playing for to ensure that he will actually start games more regularly.
I believe he is more than ready to get games here and there. Cameos, cup appearances etc. You say he needs another loan, but right now this club is seriously lacking in options. Sancho, Rashford and Elanga are all better suited to the left hand side. Yeah, one or two of them might be able to do a job on the right, but it simply isn't good enough. Amad is natural on the right, but it's up to the club to decide whether they would prefer for him to get guaranteed minutes elsewhere rather than compete for a spot here.
 

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I believe he is more than ready to get games here and there. Cameos, cup appearances etc. You say he needs another loan, but right now this club is seriously lacking in options. Sancho, Rashford and Elanga are all better suited to the left hand side. Yeah, one or two of them might be able to do a job on the right, but it simply isn't good enough. Amad is natural on the right, but it's up to the club to decide whether they would prefer for him to get guaranteed minutes elsewhere rather than compete for a spot here.
I think that's fair but I would imagine that another forward will be coming in, not necessarily on the right but that will mean his options will be limited. He needs to play games on a consistent basis, it's not ideal that he's going to turn 20 and he hasn't played a full game in senior football yet, so I would hope we find the right loan for him. There's clearly talent there but enough coaches have decided to go with other players ahead of him that it's not 1 coach being unfair to him. There's still major development that needs to happen.
 

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So the coaches at Atalanta didn't think he was ready yet, Ole didn't think he was either, nor did Rangnick and nor has Van Bronckhorst but you have decided that he is based on reserve appearances? There's no doubt that there's talent there but there's still clearly a significant amount of development required, he hasn't played a full 90 minutes in a senior game yet. He needs another loan but the club will have to determine what standard of team he is capable of playing for to ensure that he will actually start games more regularly.
I don't particularly rate those coaches I must say coincidentally. But at Atlanta he was 18 and they didnt play with wingers, even then he was included.

He actually played very well for Ole in the last matches of 21/22. Injuries and daftness wasted a lot of his time.
 

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I don't particularly rate those coaches I must say coincidentally. But at Atlanta he was 18 and they didnt play with wingers, even then he was included.

He actually played very well for Ole in the last matches of 21/22. Injuries and daftness wasted a lot of his time.
I wouldn't say I rate them either but I know that they see him in training every day and are working with a lot more information than us on an internet forum and they've all come to the same conclusion. I'm also not sure that playing well in 2 dead rubbers at the end of the season is that significant, people were raving about Matic and Mata a couple of weeks ago because they played well in a nothing game against Brentford as if we hadn't seem them be bad enough times to make a more reasonable assessment.

I'm certainly not writing Amad off, he's definitely got a lot of potential, but I'm just kind of baffled by people complaining about him not coming on tonight in such a big game or thinking that he can come back and contribute meaningfully next year. He needs to go and play games for a team where he will actually start.
 

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I think that's fair but I would imagine that another forward will be coming in, not necessarily on the right but that will mean his options will be limited. He needs to play games on a consistent basis, it's not ideal that he's going to turn 20 and he hasn't played a full game in senior football yet, so I would hope we find the right loan for him. There's clearly talent there but enough coaches have decided to go with other players ahead of him that it's not 1 coach being unfair to him. There's still major development that needs to happen.
Yeah we will see what happens in terms of signings. I imagine we will sign a striker, but I doubt we will sign another wide player. Even if we do, I'd be up for having Sancho and Rashford for the left, loaning out Elanga, then having Amad and the new signing for the right. Though I appreciate that the club might prefer for him to get more minutes elsewhere. Most teenagers still need development, it just requires a competent enough manager to give him a chance.
 

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I wouldn't say I rate them either but I know that they see him in training every day and are working with a lot more information than us on an internet forum and they've all come to the same conclusion. I'm also not sure that playing well in 2 dead rubbers at the end of the season is that significant, people were raving about Matic and Mata a couple of weeks ago because they played well in a nothing game against Brentford as if we hadn't seem them be bad enough times to make a more reasonable assessment.

I'm certainly not writing Amad off, he's definitely got a lot of potential, but I'm just kind of baffled by people complaining about him not coming on tonight in such a big game or thinking that he can come back and contribute meaningfully next year. He needs to go and play games for a team where he will actually start.
Coaches have favourites, Amad has shown often enough he can contribute at this level. To me he has been terribly unfairly treated and I wouldnt be surprised to see him shine under a coach that values attacking football.
 

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I don't particularly rate those coaches I must say coincidentally. But at Atlanta he was 18 and they didnt play with wingers, even then he was included.

He actually played very well for Ole in the last matches of 21/22. Injuries and daftness wasted a lot of his time.
He made 4 appearances, about a total of 40 minutes game time combined that’s not really being included. He’s been included more at United and Ranger’s.
 

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Think I’d be on the phone seeing if they fancy keeping him - and sending Calvin Bassey our way!
 

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Coaches have favourites, Amad has shown often enough he can contribute at this level. To me he has been terribly unfairly treated and I wouldnt be surprised to see him shine under a coach that values attacking football.
He really hasn't.
 

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They brought another guy, strong as a bull but could only run one direction at a time while Amad was on the bench. I was rooting for Rangers, but now I am glad they lost.
 

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So he went from rotting the bench for a team finishing 2nd in an elite league and losing the Europa final on penalties, to rotting the bench for a team finishing 2nd in a mediocre league and losing the Europa final on penalties. And some people on here have the nerve to call this a successful loan.
Really?! I thought there was 100% agreement it’s been a waste of time?
 

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Really?! I thought there was 100% agreement it’s been a waste of time?
There are 1 or 2 who think that the experience of being in a title run was worth it, despite little playing time. In other words, anything to protect Scottish anything. McTominay, Rangers, whoever.

I suspect you might know who defends mctominay to the hilt
 

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There are 1 or 2 who think that the experience of being in a title run was worth it, despite little playing time. In other words, anything to protect Scottish anything. McTominay, Rangers, whoever.

I suspect you might know who defends mctominay to the hilt
Eh? Diallo’s loan has been a success because McTominay is Scottish? I’ve read some weird shit on here over the years but that might top the lot!
 

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Eh? Diallo’s loan has been a success because McTominay is Scottish? I’ve read some weird shit on here over the years but that might top the lot!
No, I was hinting at the poster who said the loan was a success. I'm just guessing at his motives seeing as something as obvious as this (this loan being a failure) was still defended as successful.
 

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Probably should have come on instead of Fashion Sakala who couldn’t do anything right
 

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I find it so odd that people talk about how he deserves a chance in and around the first team. If he deserved a chance, he'd get it. I understand that he was hyped to high heaven before he arrived but he simply hasn't lived up to it so far, yet some continue to cling on to this impression of him as some kind of wonderkid.
 

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Highly doubt he'll make it here. Sell and get some of the money back.
 

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There is a faint chance he may stay at the club next season owing to the fact we currently have 3 first team wingers (with one of them being a youth player in his first senior season too), but even if he did he’d probably end up riding the bench/be back in that flux between U23 matches and training with the first squad.

Think he’ll have to go out again, maybe to one of the mid table sides in the Dutch league or a crap Bundesliga team. Somewhere where young and slight but technically gifted players will get a fair whack at it.
 

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I find it so odd that people talk about how he deserves a chance in and around the first team. If he deserved a chance, he'd get it. I understand that he was hyped to high heaven before he arrived but he simply hasn't lived up to it so far, yet some continue to cling on to this impression of him as some kind of wonderkid.
Was going to say similar. Wasnt he the next Messi with the hype? A player bought as a panic buy along with Pellestri. We should offload the two and put whatever money we get towards this summers transfer chest
 

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Any young player will need the manager to have faith in him and give chances, GVB basically gave up on Amad for whatever reasons and this turned into a shit loan, that all there is to it really.

Amad still needs a loan where he consistently gets to play football matches at senior level, be at Championship, Eredivisie, Bundesliga, or anywhere else.
 

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Any young player will need the manager to have faith in him and give chances, GVB basically gave up on Amad for whatever reasons and this turned into a shit loan, that all there is to it really.

Amad still needs a loan where he consistently gets to play football matches at senior level, be at Championship, Eredivisie, Bundesliga, or anywhere else.
He seemed to be out of favour after the Celtic game - where he was quite simply the worst player on the pitch.

After that Kent also played himself into a fair bit of form.

I don't think GVB 'gave up' on Amad, i just don't think he rated him or saw enough from him to warrant giving him starts, as is a managers right.
 

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He seemed to be out of favour after the Celtic game - where he was quite simply the worst player on the pitch.

After that Kent also played himself into a fair bit of form.

I don't think GVB 'gave up' on Amad, i just don't think he rated him or saw enough from him to warrant giving him starts, as is a managers right.
True, but still, all a young player has is the faith of the manager, and Amad didn't have that with GVB, so the hope next time is to find a loaning club that has a manager that will give Amad chance to play games, learn and improve.
 

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Was going to say similar. Wasnt he the next Messi with the hype? A player bought as a panic buy along with Pellestri. We should offload the two and put whatever money we get towards this summers transfer chest
Agreed. It's understandable that we as fans get excited when the club signs young, hyped talent but the reality is that it sometimes (often?) doesn't work out.
 

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I still think Amad can make it here. I’m not reading too much into this loan spell.. let’s be honest Rangers and Scottish league football in general rely on physicality and the standard of football isn’t the greatest. If anything I hope it’s made him realise the importance of being a bit more physical and adding a bit of muscle.

He’s a highly technical player with good vision and great weight of pass. People have been raving about Elanga this season (and rightly so) but I still think Amad would’ve offered more than him going forward.

Hopefully he stays with us next season as a squad player and gets some minutes in cup games and in the Europa League.
 

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You just know when you see something special in a player. I'd even argue, regardless of the level they play at. It doesn't even have to be anything outlandish, just a subtle movement or weight of pass. In Amad's case, I first saw it in our under 23 team. I have also seen it in some of his cameos for Rangers. I'm amazed at how under utilised he has been at Rangers. I didn't want us to loan him out in the first place. I think he is a better player than Elanga and would be our best right sided player currently.
Totally agree with you. There;s something special about this kid. I watched a ton of his Atlanta matches before coming to united and he had me more excited than any Youth signing we've made in recent years. He has that messi-esque centre of gravity that allows him to drop his body and go past people with ease. He's also a fighter, his strength on the ball and ability to shield belittles his age and my guess he'll be twice the player Elanga is.
 

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Totally agree with you. There;s something special about this kid. I watched a ton of his Atlanta matches before coming to united and he had me more excited than any Youth signing we've made in recent years. He has that messi-esque centre of gravity that allows him to drop his body and go past people with ease. He's also a fighter, his strength on the ball and ability to shield belittles his age and my guess he'll be twice the player Elanga is.
Unless I'm missing something, he didn't play a ton of matches for Atalanta?
 

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Totally agree with you. There;s something special about this kid. I watched a ton of his Atlanta matches before coming to united and he had me more excited than any Youth signing we've made in recent years. He has that messi-esque centre of gravity that allows him to drop his body and go past people with ease. He's also a fighter, his strength on the ball and ability to shield belittles his age and my guess he'll be twice the player Elanga is.
I find it surprising that others can't see this. Instead, people who share our point of view are made to feel like they are going insane :lol: